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Please add me to the book list! (THREAD CLOSED)
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Shannon, the founder of fun (back from sabbatical)
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Feb 12, 2008 07:03AM
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I don't think all of these are on our list:http://gilmore-ism.com/reference?filt...
Michele, could you email me the spreadsheet so it's easier for me to search the bookshelves? Thanks!
Episode 2.04LORELAI: This building is one component of a thirteen million volume collection housed in more than ninety different libraries. It’s the oldest library in the United States and the largest academic library in the world. Breathe, breathe.
RORY: I’m a failure. I am stupid. I am uniformed and ignorant and… I can’t even think of a second synonym for uninformed. I suck. Thirteen million volumes? I’ve read like, what, three hundred books in my entire life and I’m already sixteen? Do you know how long it would take me to read thirteen million books?
LORELAI: But honey, you don’t have to read every one of them. Tuesdays with Morrie? Skip that. Who Moved My Cheese? Just stuff you already know.
RORY: Okay, but every kid coming to Harvard is inevitably reading books, and different books, and I want to be able to converse intelligently with each of them and I can’t do that unless I read books, at least a few from every genre and sub-genre.
LORELAI: Okay, come on. I’m getting you out of here.
RORY: I sleep too much.
LORELAI: No you don’t.
RORY: I’ve been frittering away my whole life.
LORELAI: You don’t fritter.
RORY: Did I mention I suck?
So are we adding every book referenced or mentioned? Because I thought the point was to read what Rory read... the last example were books that Rory SHOULDN'T read according to Lorelai. It's cool if that's the case, but my vote would be for those she read. (Saying this as a participant, not a moderator.)
Can there be two shelves for the group? The official Rory's list shelf and other mentioned books shelf?
I don't think goodreads does customizable shelves for groups yet, but that's a good idea if they ever change things.Have to say, I don't have much interest in reading books that were specifically trashed on the show, but that may just be me. I don't have a problem reading other books favorably mentioned though.
Tuesdays with Morrie really wasn't as good as the hype might indicate.
I don't see any harm in putting some of those books on there. It's not like we have to read every book on the list. And I think it is highly unlikely we will nominate or choose Who Moved My Cheese for the monthly book read. I think those books were the exception as opposed to the rule. Our group should have a little sense of humor ;)
yeah Sera - couldn't agree more. I was just as unimpressed with The Five People You Meet In Heaven.Shannon, are you kidding? of course we have to read every book on the list! ;) 2 books a month, 200 books - only 100 months!
If this group still exists in 8 years, I'm buying everyone a beer. you have my word. all 600+ of you. (no gaurantee on beer quality or freshness)
Hey, Heather:When I was in college, there was a beer called Falstaff that was really cheap and had games on the inside of the bottle caps!
Sarah, love that quote. Now I'm starting to think about the number of books I've read and how much I'm lagging behind from the rest of the world. Heh.
I agree with those who support books favorably mentioned on the show. I mean, the list is long enough as it is and I'd like to read all the good books first so I'd be able to converse intelligently with all of you. LOL
That said, I do think that sometimes GG does a little too much of pop culture trashing. But then again the show has received some trashing of its own, being brushed aside as "sappy" or "too girly".
I agree with those who support books favorably mentioned on the show. I mean, the list is long enough as it is and I'd like to read all the good books first so I'd be able to converse intelligently with all of you. LOL
That said, I do think that sometimes GG does a little too much of pop culture trashing. But then again the show has received some trashing of its own, being brushed aside as "sappy" or "too girly".
Robbie: sounds like my kind of beer!edit so I can feel more like I'm contributing:
more books
even more books (2 pages)
fair warning: many repeats, many possibly most already on our list, but lots of episode citations.
Artic - yeah 100 months ain't nothing! lol.
Michele could you please post the spreadsheet if you still have it to the google group site? I can't imagine there would be that many books we haven't read yet. Also seeing all the books on the spreadsheet will be an easier way to pick monthly nominations. Maybe we could create some kind of group access wiki where we list all the books by episode and the narration their referred to in - yeah that would be cool. I haven't seen them all organized together like that. Enough rambling here...........
Michele could you please post the spreadsheet if you still have it to the google group site? I can't imagine there would be that many books we haven't read yet. Also seeing all the books on the spreadsheet will be an easier way to pick monthly nominations. Maybe we could create some kind of group access wiki where we list all the books by episode and the narration their referred to in - yeah that would be cool. I haven't seen them all organized together like that. Enough rambling here...........
My two cents:Since we tend to pick two books every month - we could stick to the first book being from the 'official list'. We can use the others (mere mentions, trashed, or cited authors) to widen the selection for the second pick.
I'm kind of the mindframe that I would like to get through her official list before we hit up other books.
We really need to be able to customize bookshelves here! Come on Otis! hee
Oh, and Heather. Two words - Milwaukee's Best. It's what all the poor college students drink in desperate times! heh (Be warned...I believe this is the worst beer ever made...but it's uber cheap...I don't know for sure on the taste though as I have never had to reach to such depths of desperation.)
Shannon, I think a group wiki is a great idea!In the mean time...maybe someone could just do a post in this folder or somewhere, listing all the books on the group bookshelf, editing it to keep it up to date? I have a bookshelf myself with all of this group's books on it for quick reference, but a post here would be even more convenient.
Must admit I'm not a big beer drinker either. I'm much more of a Hornsby's cider and White Russian girl. My first impulse was to buy everyone a margarita, actually, but I had a feeling that would get expensive quicker than beer. My second thought was jagermeister shots, but again can't beat the price of beer. So beer it is.
sangria could also be fun though...
We call Milwaukee's Best "The Beast." Not sure if this is universal, but down here, you mention "The Beast" and you'll get a MB.
There's this long story...I'll abridge. We had this friend who refused to drink it because it was "too cheap." So my husband blindfolded her and made her drink the beast and a Budweiser, and she couldn't tell the difference. Poser!! HAHA.
There's this long story...I'll abridge. We had this friend who refused to drink it because it was "too cheap." So my husband blindfolded her and made her drink the beast and a Budweiser, and she couldn't tell the difference. Poser!! HAHA.
You know, if I really had the time, and was bored enough, I think it would be neat to go through and find all the book references in the order they were given and read them that way! But I don't, so I won't....sigh.
Heather - glad you like the group wiki idea. I think I may look into this a little more. If we could all put our Gilmore Girl knowledge together I think we could come up with a pretty comprehensive book site. And I love the white russians. I feel like "the dude" when I order one up. For christmas when my family came over I made these for everyone and called them white christmases. Tasty!
Alison - oh yeah we called it "the beast" too.
I'm not a beer connoisseur but I have really learned to love stouts, which I used to think were too heavy. Now I absolutely adore some Guinness.
Alison - oh yeah we called it "the beast" too.
I'm not a beer connoisseur but I have really learned to love stouts, which I used to think were too heavy. Now I absolutely adore some Guinness.
white christmases...heh. cute. I think I'm gaining a better appreciation of beer as I get older. I used to hate the darker heavier beers, but now I actually prefer them sometimes for the flavor.I agree Erica, that order sounds good to me too. We could even do episode discussions to go with it! Perhaps once the wiki is up it might be more feasible though.
I was also just comparing my shelf list to the group list and noticed a glaring oversight - no Howl on the group's list! Jess would be heartbroken.
Yes, Sarah is right, is was on the list. Someone must have removed it or something. Anyway, it's back.
Looks like customizable group shelves are up and running, so maybe Robbie's idea for two shelves can be implemented. :)Also the group shelf is now sortable which is pretty neat. I recommend taking a look when you get a chance.
Okay, while farting around on the internet, I found that some girl started a list about we had been discussing to do (books/authors referenced on the show). I have no idea which ones are duplicates to our list or how accurate is the list. It's too difficult to flip back and forth on this site to check (I never got list), so I'm just posting the whole list. I'm not suggesting you add all these. Just thought people might like to peruse it and see what's been mentioned. The numbers mean season and then episode.Albom, Mitch: Tuesdays with Morrie7.16
Allende, Isabel: Eva Luna 7.14
Andersen, Hans Christian: The Little Match Girl 1.1
Austen, Jane 1.8
Beckett, Samuel 6.5
Bemelmans, Ludwig: Madeline 7.7
Beowulf 6.10
Bhagavad Gita 2.18
Blume, Judy: Deenie 1.8
Bronte, Charlotte 1.8
Bronte, Emily: Wuthering Heights 4.5
Brown, Dan: The Da Vinci Code 5.2, 6.18
Browning, Elizabeth Barrett 1.16
Butler, Judith: Gender Trouble 7.14
Byron, Lord George Gordon 2.2
Capote, Truman: In Cold Blood 7.1
Carrol, Lewis: Alice in Wonderland 1.2, 2.4
Cervantes, Miguel de
Chaucer, Geoffrey 4.22
Chopra, Deepak 5.2
Cleary, Beverly 6.11
Clinton, Hilary: It Takes a Village 6.11
Crane, Stephen: The Red Badge of Courage
Dante, Alighieri 1.11
Dante, Alighieri: Inferno 2.22
Dickens, Charles: Oliver Twist 2.5, 6.8
Dos Pasos, John 6.8
Doyle, Sir Arthur Conan 7.13
Ellis, Bret Easton: Less than Zero 5.9
Erdrich, Louise: Love Medicine 7.17
Faber, Michael: The Crimson Petal & the White 4.17
Faludi, Susan
Faulkner, William 2.7
Field, Syd 6.17
Fierstein, Harvey 1.13
Flaubert, Gustave: Madame Bovary 1.1, 2.11
Friedman, Milton: A Monetary History of the United States 7.13
Gallo, Donald R.: Sixteen: Short Stories by Outstanding Writers
Gibbons, Edwards: The Decline & Fall of the Roman Empire 5.5
Gogol, Nikolai: Dead Souls 3.3
Gore, Al: An Inconvenient Truth 7.8
Grafton, Sue: R is for Ricochet, S is for Silence 7.11
Hathaway, Katharine Butler: The Little Locksmith 2.19
Hellman, Lillian: The Children’s Hour
Hemingway, Ernest 6.8
Homer 1.11
Hornby, Nick: High Fidelity
Irving, Washington 2.10
Jacqueline, Susann: Valley of the Dolls 1.5
James, Henry: Say Goodbye to Daisy Miller 5.1
James, Henry: The Art of fiction 1.18
Janowitz, Tama 7.8
Johnson, Crockett: Harold & the Purple Crayon
Johnson, Samuel 7.5
Johnson, Spencer: Who Moved my Cheese? 2.4
Joyce, James: Finnegans Wake 1.5
Kafka, Franz 4.22, 6.8
Keene, Carolyn: Nancy Drew Mysteries 1.17, 2.11
Keller, Helen 7.3
King, Stephen: Carrie 1.13, Christine 1.16, Cujo 2.1, 4.5, The Shining 1.2, 2.10. 1.1
Kundera, Milan 7.21
Lebowitz, Fran 7.8
Lee, Harper: To Kill a Mockingbird 2.8, 3.4
Lewis, C.S: The Lion the Witch & the Wardrobe
Lewis, Sinclair 2.2
Lofting, Hugh: Dr. Dolittle 2.18
Macaulay, David: The New Way Things Work 6.20
Mad Magazine
McCarthy, Cormac 7.1, 7.13
McCourt, Frank: Angela’s Ashes 6.11
McInerney, John Jr. 7.18
McNeil, Legs: Please Kill Me: The Uncensored Oral History of Punk 2.19
Melville, Herman 7.17
Menken, H.L.: Menken Chrestomathy 1.3
Meyer, Phillip: The Vanishing Newspaper 7.15
Miller, Henry 7.3
Mitchell, Margaret: Gone with the Wind 2.11
Moliere’s Biography 2.8,3.15 (Title of book not listed)
Musil, Robert 6.8
Norton Anthologies 7.9
Plath, Sylvia: The Unabridged Journals of Syliva Plath 1.12
Powell, Dawn: Selected Letters of Dawn Powell 2.15
Proust, Marcel: Swann’s Way 1.11
Rilke, Ranier Maria: Letters to a Young Poet 2.15
Robert, Henry: Robert’s Rules of Order 6.14
Rodgers, Mary: Freaky Friday 1.6
The Rough Guide to Europe
Rowling, J.K.: Harry Potter & the Goblet of Fire 1.2, 6.20
Salinger, J.D.: Franny & Zooey 2.15
Satire, Jean-Paul 1.5
Sexton, Anne 2.7
Shakespeare, William 1.11
Sherman, William T. 2.17
Sobol, Donald: Encyclopedia Brown
Steinbeck, John 6.11
Steves, Rick: Europe Through the Back Door
Sun Tzu: Art of War 3.5
Tan, Amy: The Joy Luck Club 2.10, 7.2
Thomspon, Hunter 1.8
Tolstoy, Leo 6.8, 7.5
Twain, Mark: Huckleberry Finn 1.1, 7.20
Voltaire: Candide 2.18
Wharton, Edith 1.6
White, E.B.: Charlotte’s Web6.17, 7.3
Whitman, Walt 1.11
Wiggin, Kate Douglas: Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm 2.21
Wodehouse, P.G. 5.5
Yeats, William Butler 7.16
I know. I should have posted the website link and now it's lost. I'll have to google it again. There were a couple of errors on the list that I had to fix so maybe she just didn't realize he was an author?But I thought it was a good jumping off point.
Artic -- the shelf/shelves are sortable? I'm not seeing where/how that works. ETA: I'm thinking the moderators can search the shelves but not group members. Is that it?
To sort, you just click on the column title at the top (such as 'title' or 'author'). It sorts alphabetically, forwards and backwards. Now we just need to get them to list more than 20 books per page...I'm not sure if searching shelves is a feature yet either.
You know, someone has deleted some of our books because I KNOW that both The Nanny Diaries and Howl were on the list at one time... Grrr!
You know, you should change the feature to make it only that the moderators can add/delete books. Since we have this thread, everyone else can just ask here to have things added. With as many members as we have, we have no idea if someone just adds to a group and then decides to make "changes" without really knowing what the group is about.
Good point there, Meghan. It's amazing how this group now has nearly 800 members! We'll get to a thousand in no time.
That must be a new feature, Meghan, as there didn't used to be that option. Anyway, I did do. Cheers for the heads up.
Hate to say this, but The Nanny Diaries has gone missing again...(please don't shoot the messenger! I swear I didn't do it!)
Well I'm not sure what to do about it because if you do an "add book" it says it's already on the shelf, but when I look for it on the shelf, it's not there. I tried re-adding it, and it didn't work. So it's some weird nanny glitch. (Always blame the nanny.)
Ha that would be funny! Are they real books? Just wanted to say hello to everyone. Been really busy finishing up my business plan for a competition which is due on March 17th. So I will be back on the 18th! I miss you guys!
Should Unless: A Novel be on the list? It's listed here, here, and here. I nominated it for May's reading without checking our list first (I find the Listsofbests one easier to navigate, so I just went by that one).
Shouldn't Kafka's The Trial be on the list? Professor Flemming assigned it in one of Rory's classes on a recent ABC Family episode.







