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Okay, who else is FREAKING THE HELL OUT?
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Jul 18, 2014 06:30AM
So I don't really want to ask this, but does anyone know exactly how Lilith seduced Varen? I mean she must have shown him how he could have control in the dream world, but does anyone think there was physical seduction involved? Gwen and Isobel read that about Lilith, that she's sort of an incubus. And then there's that part in Varen's sketchbook (i think) that lilith asked someone when he would free her from her cage, and they sealed the deal with a kiss. was that varen since he wrote that, or did he copy a quote from somewhere? because if varen ever made out or slept with llith i'm gonna throw up
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I agree; we've been in the dark for way to long!I'd love to know what's going on.
Maliha wrote: "Marshanah wrote: "Foreverhopeful21 wrote: "Maliha wrote: "Foreverhopeful21 wrote: "Maliha wrote: "Temperance wrote: "Maliha wrote: "It may be a cheap shot but since Kelly updates about her belly da..."She's currently working on a new project unrelated to the Nevermore trilogy. If you check her facebook, you'll see that she regularly posts about her progress on this new book.
Maliha wrote: "So I don't really want to ask this, but does anyone know exactly how Lilith seduced Varen? I mean she must have shown him how he could have control in the dream world, but does anyone think there w..."I don't think there was any physical seduction involved with either Poe or Varen. They both had women in their lives that they cared about. I think it was more of just exploiting their emotional vulnerabilities since both felt like outcasts in the real world.
Foreverhopeful21 wrote: "Maliha wrote: "Marshanah wrote: "Foreverhopeful21 wrote: "Maliha wrote: "Foreverhopeful21 wrote: "Maliha wrote: "Temperance wrote: "Maliha wrote: "It may be a cheap shot but since Kelly updates abo..."I do check her Facebook, which is how I know that even though she updates constantly about her new project and belly dancing classes, she never mentioned any updates on Oblivion. She could have at least bothered to let us know what was happening. If that other reader hadn't asked her on twitter, who knows how long we would have been waiting to get Oblivion thinking it had been released? A few lines typed on facebook wouldn't have interrupted her personal life or new project. I used to write on wattpad and I always let my readers know it'd be a while until the next chapter
omg I am so excited and freaking out too I cant wait for the book to come out:)
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Yeah, that makes sense... Lilith did this to Poe and Varen in order to find a way to exist in the real world, right? She lives off of them writing about her. Varen's journal was Lilith's link to the real world and that's why Isobel destroyed (if I recall correctly).
*dies because I can't possibly wait until July*
Do you guys really think Isobel will be angry with veran? I think she can guess the reason as to why he pushed her off the cliff.
Angelica wrote: "Do you guys really think Isobel will be angry with veran? I think she can guess the reason as to why he pushed her off the cliff."The way the book reads and the order of her reactions after she returns to her body right before it almost dies makes me think that she does NOT understand why he did it. I mean, think about her reaction right when she wakes up in the very last chapter before the Epilogue in Enshadowed.
She is first described as trying her best to remember what happened: "But it couldn't end like this, she thought. She had to know what had happened to him. At the very least, she had to know if she'd been able to bring him home. She couldn't leave, she couldn't go anywhere until she knew for sure."
Then, right after she goes back into her body from being in her astral form, the book reads: "The pain in her body came first, an intense surge of fire that raged like lava through her veins. But it could not compare with what followed after. A wail rose up from her depths. It left her as an inhuman cry. Finally, she remembered everything."
She's described as releasing an "inhuman cry" when everything that she experienced comes rushing back to her- her going to Baltimore to see Reynolds, her journey back into the Dream World, her encounter with Lilth, and finally her encounter with Varen. You don't react like that unless something terrible has happened to cause you to be so upset. The book is basically saying that the emotional pain she feels at the betrayal of Varen is so much more painful than the physical pain her body is in after whatever happened to it. (It sounds like her falling off of the cliff in the dream world somehow parallels into the real world which is why she almost died- she does see that her body is battered and bruised when the doctors are trying to save her).
To be honest, I think girl is going to be scared sh*tless of him when she first sees him in Oblivion because she's not going to know what to make of him after what he did to her in Enshadowed.
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The way the book reads and the order of her reac..."
I agree. She's not going to be very eager to reunite with this new Varen, especially after what he did to her.
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Marshanah wrote: "I have a bit of a random question (because I can't remember). Does the Grim Facade occur on Halloween in Nevermore?"
Yep.
Yep.
OMG! It's actually happening! Kelly got ARCs for Oblivion today (she posted a pic on FB); no more pushing back the publishing date! Woot woot!
*jumps up and down and squeals like crazy*
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Finally! :P
SO JEALOUS OF PEOPLE THAT GOT ARC's! lol. I'm seeing the early vague reviews on the goodreads page for Oblivion, and I'm just like:
Because when it comes to the final book of this series….
And it's only the end of January.
I mean….
But, really…
ALKDSJFAJFLKJF!Did you see the page count for Oblivion?!
I can't wait to read every single on of those 448 Beautiful pages.
I don't think I've ever wanted a book this bad. I just re-read them for the first time (which was fun catching things I didn't the first time) but it's made me INSANE! It is absolutely killing me that the arc copies are out there! PEOPLE HAVE READ IT!
Anyone going to the Nevermore Masquerade Release Party in Kentucky this July?I'm actually going to be traveling through the southern states around that time and am going to try to go to the party. I want to meet Kelly in person so bad lol.
Emma wrote: ""Hey, Emma, I'm not seeing your comment showing up. Are you going to the release party?
Foreverhopeful21 wrote: "Emma wrote: ""Hey, Emma, I'm not seeing your comment showing up. Are you going to the release party?"
No, I'm afraid not but it sounds like a really cool event. She sounds like a real character and down-to-earth person. She alludes to other projects a lot on facebook and twitter. Hopefully we see more from her. I really appreciated her writing more the second time through the book.
Right now I'm basically going through all the reviews for Oblivion looking for arc readers and stalking them for tid bits. I definitely don't want to be spoiled but I'm dying here! The few that are on there seem satisfied with the ending- so that's good. :)
Emma wrote: "Right now I'm basically going through all the reviews for Oblivion looking for arc readers and stalking them for tid bits. I definitely don't want to be spoiled but I'm dying here! The few that a..."The only thing that bothers me is that I think one of them said that we wouldn't see a lot of Varen like what happened in Enshadowed; I hope we see more scenes of him and Isobel actually interacting; I didn't like how besides hardly seeing him in Enshadowed, the few times we did see him (aside from the final chapter and Epilogue), he never spoke to Isobel (which was understandable given the circumstances of each time he saw her but still).
Foreverhopeful21 wrote: "Emma wrote: "Right now I'm basically going through all the reviews for Oblivion looking for arc readers and stalking them for tid bits. I definitely don't want to be spoiled but I'm dying here! T..."I saw that too & was leary also. I feel like we hanging in there that entire second book dying for the interaction between them! My second read, knowing it wouldn't come, I hung on much more even to her interactions with pinfeathers.
I also agree with those comments on here and the reviews that they want to see him fight for her this time. I was cool with the ending of the last one- heartbreaking but cool and so tragic. But she's been through the ringer! I need for him to "wake up" and fight for her too.
And, agreed, it's those interactions between them from the first book that sunk the claws in so deep- definitely wanting more. They really had so little actual interaction and even just the one kiss- but it was written well enough for us to be hanging on to their story still so passionately.
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I'm actually going to be traveling through the southern states around that time and am going to try to go to the party..."
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That would really suck. Interaction between the two of them seems necessary, especially if they're going to patch things up from how badly the last time they met (at the end of Enshadowed) went. I also really want to know what's going on inside Varen's head. The glimpses we saw in the previous books were insightful, but I want to know what he's thinking when he's with Lilith. What runs through his head? How bad is the suffering of being her puppet?
Marshanah wrote: "Foreverhopeful21 wrote: "Emma wrote: "Right now I'm basically going through all the reviews for Oblivion looking for arc readers and stalking them for tid bits. I definitely don't want to be spoil..."Totally agreed. I think Isobel's character is going need something from him in order to keep fighting. Even if the reader knows that maybe he didn't think that was her and maybe he's being mind-tortured by Lilith, she doesn't necessarily know that. We, as readers, can't really keep respecting her if she just goes back in for more punishment unless her hope for their love is hinged on something. Ah- just talking and thinking about it makes me crazy. I don't think I've ever pined for a book this badly.
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I feel the same! The only other authors who have ever made me feel this antsy about reading a book is Julie Kagawa (Blood of Eden) and Barry Lyga (I Hunt Killers).
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The longest three months of my life...
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Marshanah wrote: "One more month everyone, ONE MORE MONTH..."
I know! How will I survive?
I know! How will I survive?
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I know! How will I survive?"
I've been rereading the first two books to keep myself somewhat sane (it barely helps, especially with the second book's cliff hanger)...
It is taking all of my will power not to look at the in-depth early reviews that are being posted on the book's Goodreads page.I refuse to spoil this book for myself, so no comments revealing any of Oblivion's plot (however you may hear about it) on this thread until the book comes out!
Foreverhopeful21 wrote: "It is taking all of my will power not to look at the in-depth early reviews that are being posted on the book's Goodreads page.
I refuse to spoil this book for myself, so no comments revealing an..."
Seconded!
I refuse to spoil this book for myself, so no comments revealing an..."
Seconded!
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I refuse to spoil this book for myself, so no comments revealing an..."
I agree. I'd rather not know yet. Hopefully, Oblivion will have been worth the wait.
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Marshanah wrote: "This is something I just thought about and am wondering if anyone else has wondered the same: Where in the world does Nevermore take place? Is it ever mentioned?"
Nope.
Nope.
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Nope."
I thought so....
Sooo...if there is anyone close to Kentucky, there is going to be an Official Book Release Event on Tuesday, July 28, at 5:00 pm that is FREE and OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. Kelly Creagh will signing and discussing Oblivion, and there will be a Nevermore-inspired masquerade party! The winner of the costume contest will receive the actual Betsey Johnson dress used as the model for the artwork on the cover of Enshadowed, and the second place winner will receive the necklace that inspired the one worn by Lilith. First, second and third place winners will also receive copies of the “Nevermore” trilogy. Tuesday, July 28, at 5:00 PM at Barr Memorial Library at Fort Knox.
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I wish I could go, but I live in IL....
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I know, right?! :P The time is FINALLY almost here.
Kelly wrote: "Sooo...if there is anyone close to Kentucky, there is going to be an Official Book Release Event on Tuesday, July 28, at 5:00 pm that is FREE and OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. Kelly Creagh will signing and d..."I may make the trip down; I have family in Louisville that I might be able to stay with for the weekend.
Awesome! Yes, I'll be there. I can't wait!
I just re-read both books in less than a week (I'm a fast reader and have no life...) in my excitement. It was supposed to come out last year and I haunted the bookstore everday until she CHANGED THE DATE. So I'm almost to the point of tears hoping she doesn't change it, but I'm also so freaking sad! I don't want it to end!
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I don't think she'll change it again. And I agree, it's sad to see the series end, but who knows? Maybe she'll write a spin-off series or short stories from Varen's POV. It'd be cool if she did....
