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message 1: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Vegan (lisavegan) https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...

Is this the middle of the end?!


message 2: by Mir (new)

Mir | 11 comments I heard from people who deleted that they had to send messages asking for their reviews to be removed, and wait over a week. I guess Amazon doesn't want to lose all that data they paid for...


message 3: by Debbie's Spurts (D.A.) (last edited Nov 18, 2013 08:34AM) (new)

Debbie's Spurts (D.A.) | 445 comments I hope it gives them a clue as to how much members trust them.

I know not everyone is outright leaving goodreads, but if they don't trust their content, particularly shelves and book catalogs, to be safe then of course they are constantly backing up via export.

I'm not suspicious of them saying the import/export was hogging site resources.

I am paranoid enough to wonder if export will be resumed only after all the kindle holiday buys to make sure the reviews and books stay available long enough to encourage kindle users to integrate to goodreads.


message 4: by Krazykiwi (new)

Krazykiwi | 54 comments I can write up an explanation how to use Calibre to keep your book data up to date against GR using an existing CSV export if anyone is interested. It'll even keep your reviews up to date (and you can write the reviews in Calibre and send them to the site, if you want). Probably won't be until tomorrow though.

Caveat: They can't really turn the entire API off, because that would disable the apps, but they can disable a specific application from using it, as we saw from BookLikes.


Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 231 comments Wow. Desperate much, GRAmazon?


message 6: by Mir (new)

Mir | 11 comments Krazykiwi wrote: "I can write up an explanation how to use Calibre to keep your book data up to date against GR using an existing CSV export if anyone is interested. It'll even keep your reviews up to date (and you ..."

I don't even know what Calibre is, but I'd certainly be willing to read your explanation and try to understand it. Thanks!


message 7: by Heather in FL (new)

Heather in FL (heather_fl) calibre-ebook.com

Software to manage your book collection. Free, unless you choose to donate. IMO, it's definitely worthwhile software.


message 8: by Krazykiwi (last edited Nov 18, 2013 10:48AM) (new)

Krazykiwi | 54 comments Calibre is a desktop ebook manager. It does lots of things, like convert formats, manage your kindle or e-reader, etc, and it keeps a local database of your books. But it doesn't care if you put entries in that aren't ebooks, just to have them in the database.

It has a set of GR plugins that let it fetch data from here, including your bookshelves - but GR don't like if you fetch too much at once (more than 50 books), so if you have more than 100 books or so, you'll probably want to bootstrap it with a CSV, then update from there unless you want to spend hours fetching the data. Once it's done though, you can synch your shelves as often as you want, since it'll only be sending/fetching changes.

It's got a scary amount of features on first glance, which puts people off a bit, but once you're up and running it's super simple to use.


message 9: by Lee (new)

Lee (leekat) Sounds amazing! Thanks for the explanation, I'm going to take a look.


message 10: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Vegan (lisavegan) Oh, I'm also going to take a looks at Calibre. Thanks, kiwi and all. I don't read e-books yet, but it sounds as though that's okay.

I'm not deleting my books from Goodreads, not yet anyway. I always export copies, I leave data as it is here but export a copy to keep on my computer. Well, I did.

Now, every time I try to do it, even if it worked the last time, I doubt I'll ever trust it again.

Everything here feels so sad now.

Thanks, All.


message 11: by Randolph (new)

Randolph (us227381) Don't hold your breath.


message 12: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Vegan (lisavegan) I know. I'm worried. Many other times here things have been shut down "briefly" and it's turned into forever. If that happens, I guess I'll have to leave. It's already so much less fun here, ever since the Amazon announcement. For me, that was it. I didn't need the September announcement to know some of what was coming. Such a shame. I'll stick around for now, but I know from now on I'll never trust the feature to work. Next up?: I'm waiting for us to not be able to remove all our books if that's what we want to do.


Debbie's Spurts (D.A.) | 445 comments I am deeply, seriously insulted that goodreads can make a sitewide announcement advertising the new kindle fire.

But still can't announce a September change in shelf naming policies that could cause your carefully constructed book catalogs to be vandalized.


message 14: by Lisa (last edited Nov 18, 2013 07:46PM) (new)

Lisa Vegan (lisavegan) Yes, I think we all feel that way, most of those who know about it, at least.


message 15: by Dawn (new)

Dawn (dawnv) Lisa wrote: "...'ll stick around for now, but I know from now on I'll never trust the feature to work. Next up?: I'm waiting for us to not be able to remove all our books if that's what we want to do. "

Ah don't say it ...


message 16: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Vegan (lisavegan) Well, I'm going to try to stay, as long as I have friends here. But for me the Amazon announcement was the end of trusting and loving the site. And much of the fun has gone out of it for me, especially given the departure of many friends, and all the discord here now.


message 17: by Randolph (new)

Randolph (us227381) Wouldn't we all. How about calling that 800 number customer service line that goodreads has. Ooops that's gone. Hmmm, try calling Amazon's customer service. I did today just for fun and they couldn't answer a damn one of my goodreads feedback questions. They didn't even seem to know what goodreads was. I had to tell them it was a part of Amazon now. It was worse than trying to get accurate answers from the IRS. Guess who else must not be getting the sitewide announcements?

Maybe that Amy, you know that one that comes up on the Mayday button on the new Kindle Fire, maybe she could answer your goodreads feedback questions. After all she works for Amazon right? I wonder how many times you can press that button and ask Amy goodreads questions before that Mayday button goes the way of the 800 number. It's probably free for like 30 days and then they'll start charging you, or say charge after the 8th Mayday press.


Debbie's Spurts (D.A.) | 445 comments With goodreads integrated into kindle fire, the Mayday operators should kniw something about goodreads. (No clue and although every tech gadget, book app, tablet, operating system is usually something i'm dying to try -- not the goodreads kindle integration. Maybe five year's down the road I'll regret that decison or have to backtrack if work projects require using or it's something that has overtaken social media. Except that kobo let's you shelve only what they sell, I actually liked how they have been doing their community and app/device stuff so maybe they or nook and others will jump in to compete by integrating with booklikes, The Reading Room, Reader Rabbit, Fictfact or others?)


message 19: by Randolph (new)

Randolph (us227381) Hey, when's that booklikes link feature coming back? I would have thought it was top of the hopper before import/export fix or before Kindle "sharing." What's the deal goodreads?


Debbie's Spurts (D.A.) | 445 comments Randolph wrote: "Hey, when's that booklikes link feature coming back? I would have thought it was top of the hopper before import/export fix or before Kindle "sharing." What's the deal goodreads?"

If they were smart, they'd put it back so it can be the scapegoat for all sorts of issues the goodreads site might have. Getting kinda hard to keep milking it as the reason behind site bugs since been disabled for weeks (not that it stops the support emails from blaming third party api as being the culprit).


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