Breaking Dawn (The Twilight Saga, #4) Breaking Dawn discussion


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True or False: Jacob's POV was the best part of the book.

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message 51: by [deleted user] (new)

True.


message 52: by Don (new) - rated it 2 stars

Don This is the only part I enjoyed in the entire series.


message 53: by Cat (new) - rated it 1 star

Cat Definitely false. I think I skimmed through most of it out of utter agony.


Sedra VERY true. my favorite part.


Elizabeth Nunez False I thought Bella's perspective as a vampire was much more entertaining.


Elizabeth Nunez Kristen wrote: "Olivia wrote: "ok maybe it was a little slow, but it was interesting what his POV was about everything.."

Yeah, parts were interesting, I just wasn't much of a fan of the wolf parts overall.

I th..."


yes! I agree with this :) thats why Midnight Sun was so much fun to read.


Alyssa Martinez True! How is this even a discussion lol


Rel8tivity Alyssa wrote: "True! How is this even a discussion lol"

Because like most things people have many, differing opinions.


message 59: by Farah (new) - rated it 1 star

Farah Alani True *_* I was happy really to have a break from Bella's complains and stupid talk


Alice 'Eh, it was alright, but I was kinda bored of it after a while.


Khadeer TRUEE


message 62: by Kuroi (new) - rated it 1 star

Kuroi True. There was at least some sarcasm with marginally less whining.


message 64: by Eza (new) - rated it 5 stars

Eza Hyguita TRUE !


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Olivia wrote: "Eza wrote: "TRUE !"

true?"

True!


Mubin Noor I think his part i.e Book 2, was just to take a view onto what was going through Jacob's mind having to cope with Bella's decision of going through with the mysterious pregnancy. He indeed was in a fragile/raged state. I believe it was necessary in the sense to let the reader know what he had to lose if something had gone wrong. He clearly had feelings for her and the fact he thought that her decision to put her life in danger was foolish, angered him. He just needed to blow off steam. It could be said true to it being the best part if you're not satisfied in general by the story of Twilight. It's just different than the rest of it...


message 67: by Jessica (last edited Oct 29, 2014 09:35AM) (new)

Jessica I'm surprised no one brought up something awful that Jacob did in his POV that I feel was down right disrespectful and unforgivable. With a few exceptions that he's done I was on Jacob's side, he seemed like he was the only voice of reason, though only doing it because he loved Bella and was trying to convince her to be with him.

But I hated Jacob's POV and hated him because of all the awful 'jokes' he made on Rosalie. I absolutely hated that and even more because no one stood up for her, not even Emmett. It wasn't funny at all and he had no reason to do it. I always felt like if you're the butt of a joke then you have to be laughing too for it to be funny and not hurtful. If one is making jokes about someone to hurt them and not be funny, you need to look at your life and choices. If the person isn't laughing then it's not funny at all. It's not funny is you're hurting someone. That was such a dick thing for him to do and I hated him and everyone for it.

Breaking Dawn was a disaster from start to finish on everyone's part, but Jacob's is in the ranking for the worst person in Breaking Dawn.


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sam false, jacob's parts were so boring


Rel8tivity JesseBrooke wrote: "I'm surprised no one brought up something awful that Jacob did in his POV that I feel was down right disrespectful and unforgivable. With a few exceptions that he's done I was on Jacob's side, he s..."

Those are good points I hadn't thought of. Without question, Emmett should have ripped Jacob's head off the minute he threw the dog bowl at Rosalie's head. If Emmett were in the room, I can't see him just standing there chuckling while his mate was being insulted. Heck the first blonde joke should have had him up in Jacob's grill and Jake pinned against the wall.

Just my opinion, but all the blonde jokes seemed like SM was indulging any issues she might have had with blonde girls in her past. Maybe it's just coincidence but it seemed that all the females Bella had issues with were blonde, or some shade of blonde. Lauren Mallory, Rosalie, Tanya and Jane all had blonde hair. All the positive female characters were brunette: Alice, Esme, Renee and Angela. Okay, Jessica Stanley is brunette and is a wobbler. She started off as Bella's friend, moved away from her, then came back. Maybe it was coincidence, but that was my thought about why all the blonde jokes.

Not only did Jacob come off as a complete jerk to me, but it seemed that SM got a lot of her characters wrong in the last book. I mean Carlisle is supposed to be such a devoted doctor, and was able to deny his thirst for a month even while a newborn. So why was he off on a sudden hunting trip when his patient is in critical condition, and about to give birth? The real Carlisle we know should have been standing vigil at Bella's bedside, and sent somebody else for take out. Just so much wrong with the last book.


message 70: by Holly (new)

Holly Wood FALSE.

I really didn't like Jacobs POV and I found it kind of boring.
Everyone can have their own opinion though, thats just what I think about the book.


Khyati Bailey wrote: "ABSOLUTELY! Actually, Jacob's point of view was really the ONLY part I liked. See, I have this thing with Stephanie Meyer. When she writes from Bella's point of view it's horrible, I can barely rea..."

Agreed
actually jacob is the only character i like in that novel becoz unfortunately I saw the movie first kristen stewert keeps popping in my mind whenever i read twilight... n I don't kind of like robert too.. :(


Khyati Tawanna wrote: "TRUE! I love Jacob :)"

Me too..
I liked Jacob's POV


Khyati Arriana wrote: "Olivia wrote: "Arriana wrote: "Hmm, I wouldn't say it was the "best" part but I can honestly say it was very enjoyable to read Twilight from Jacob's POV. I was actually most excited about vampire B..."

So True


Fatimah So true


Edacheeky I wouldn't say 100% true because it wasn't the BEST part of the book but I agree with Camille - the chapter titles were the part that I looked forward to the most as I read on. They were hilarious!


message 76: by Edacheeky (last edited Dec 03, 2014 12:18AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Edacheeky Olivia wrote: "Edacheeky wrote: "I wouldn't say 100% true because it wasn't the BEST part of the book but I agree with Camille - the chapter titles were the part that I looked forward to the most as I read on. Th..."

Yeah that's true but in movies the "narration" of the movie is kind of like in 3rd person (can't remember the word for it I know it starts with o) so it's hard to show exactly what certain characters are feeling and what's going through their minds because you're just seeing what can physically be seen. In that way, books are better than their movies.


Edacheeky Olivia wrote: "Edacheeky wrote: "Olivia wrote: "Edacheeky wrote: "I wouldn't say 100% true because it wasn't the BEST part of the book but I agree with Camille - the chapter titles were the part that I looked for..."

That would be really awesome!!!


Rel8tivity Edacheeky wrote: "Yeah that's true but in movies the "narration" of the movie is kind of like in 3rd person (can't remember the word for it I know it starts with o) so it's hard to show exactly what certain characters are feeling and what's going through their minds because you're just seeing what can physically be seen."

I think the term you're looking for is "3rd person omniscient" - where the narrator slips in and out of each character and can tell you what they're thinking.

First-person is more intimate, but is more limiting, which is why SM switched out of Bella's voice while she was preggers. But it can be overdone. If you've read any fanfiction, some writers switch POV so much it distracts from the story.

Personally, I thought SM chose the wrong viewpoint when she went into Jacob's head. This was supposed to be Bella and Edward's story. If SM HAD to switch POV, it would have been much better to hear Edward's side of the story.


Edacheeky Rel8tivity wrote: "Edacheeky wrote: "Yeah that's true but in movies the "narration" of the movie is kind of like in 3rd person (can't remember the word for it I know it starts with o) so it's hard to show exactly wha..."

YES OMNISCIENT THAT'S THE WORD! (The word omnipotent kept coming to my mind earlier). But the thing is that even in movies you can't get into the characters' heads and that's due to the whole omniscient thing - it's as if an all-seeing figure is present showing you everything that's happening.

Yeah that's true. I once read a story where each chapter alternated between 2 different perspectives and it was confusing at times but it still worked out somehow.
Yeah I agree, I would have been good to get into Edward's head - I read a bit of Midnight Sun and I liked Edward's perspective better than Bella's. Plus I'd really like to know what was going through his mind from when he first discovers that Bella's pregnant onwards. But I still liked the fact that we got the chance to get into Jacob's head in my opinion.


message 80: by Kath (new) - added it

Kath FALSE. I like Jacob, but I couldn't wait for his POV to be oveerrr. It drove me crazy. All I wanted was to hear about Edward and Bella and it was Jacob Jacob Jacob. Soooooo glad he didn't narrate the entire thing.


Edacheeky I also would have liked it if Alice's vision from Breaking Dawn part 2 was added in the novel but because it was from Bella's perspective, we couldn't see it. IF it was from Edward's perspective, we could have seen it because he's be able to read Alice's mind.


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