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message 1: by G.G. (new)

G.G. (ggatcheson) | 1053 comments Mod
I don't know if this fits here but I have to know!

My mother was a fast reader, however, she cheated. She admitted to dislike descriptions and skimming if not totally skipping them.

I've heard that for some people it was dialogues.

Personally, I don't skim/skip anything. When I like/love a story I want to read every word of it, so if I feel the need to skim over parts, it doesn't bode too well for the book. And if I find myself doing it too often, there is a slight chance I will not finish it.

What about you all? Is there any part of a book you skip? (dialogues, descriptions, prologues, epilogues, whatever...)

Does knowing that alters your writing? I have to admit that I am wary about those two now. So my descriptions are short and to the point but I love dialogues. Keeping them strictly relating to the story is my goal but sometimes they help the readers understand the characters and where they come from.

So for my second question, when you write, what's your view on descriptions and dialogues? (and of course, epilogues and dialogues or any other part of a story.)


message 2: by Ann (new)

Ann  Thorrson (ann_thorrson) | 2536 comments Mod
OMG I AM A SERIAL SKIPPER

There is only one book I have never skipped atleast one page from. Harry Potter and the chamber of secrets!

Now that doesn't mean I don't like the book. it can mean the opposite. If there are characters in different chapters and I want to know what happens next, I'll skim until I find them again. It doesnt cause me any problems with the story either usually.

The Book police won't arrest you if you do. Alot of people are shocked when I mention how much I skip. Most of the time I skip large sections of description or I say 'boring talky bits' like in movies. I'd skip them too if I could lol.

It changes my writing. I try to keep things fast paced, and keep the reader inside the world for as long as possible. Keep dialogue realistic as I can.

I like short detailed descriptions that make your head spin as you fall in. Don't know if its working yet. Have to see what everyone says when its published :p


message 3: by G.G. (new)

G.G. (ggatcheson) | 1053 comments Mod
Just a quick question Bisky. Out of curiosity, do you think that someone who skims through parts of your story can still enjoy it as much?


As for movies, I used to skip parts when they were in VHS...not so much in DVDs as I find it harder to navigate, but I was doing it in horror movies only so I wouldn't risk having a heart attack :P Skip till after the scary part.. see what happens, rewind to the beginning of scary part and watch it... That was the only way I could manage to watch them.


message 4: by Dawn (new)

Dawn J Stevens (dawnjstevens) | 51 comments I skip description A LOT. When they are talking about being in a general place, then go on and on about the tiniest details... well, I get bored. Give me action and moving story, not just hoards of paragraphs with descriptions and meaningless observation.

When I write, I always keep "show not tell" in mind. If the character is surprised, I don't say "she was surprised", I express it with dialog or facial expression. If there's a big rock in the middle of the road, I have the character trip over it (metaphorically or for real). Otherwise, I don't talk about it, because no one cares. If the object doesn't have a purpose in the story line, I see no reason to bring it up.

I get the feeling in a lot of books they were just trying to inflate word count, thus added tons of info that didn't need to be there. So yeah, I skim.


message 5: by Jennifer (new)

Jennifer | 11 comments I rarely skim or skip through any parts. There have been a few minor exceptions, such as poorly written novels and a few parts of Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings trilogy. I love and admire Tolkien, but holy smokes, does he sometimes go on and on with descriptions.

Otherwise, I read everything, and I would never skim over dialogue...unless the book is a real clunker.


message 6: by J. David (new)

J. David Clarke (clarketacular) | 418 comments I am guilty of this if I get bored with the text. I'll start skimming over things until I get to something that interests me.


message 7: by [deleted user] (new)

Traditionally novels are packed with filling to make them an acceptable length for sale, got to be so many thousand words, this process is a real killer of great talent. I hear so many writers proudly telling one how many words they slash out a day, what a lot of rot and descriptions are a traditional place to add this filler! A story should be to the point concise and beautifully written filler destroys this. I don't skip anything I prefer to throw the book away. One exception was War and Peace and when I finished that my thoughts were that W&P would have made a good book if it was half as long!


message 8: by Deb (last edited Oct 21, 2013 01:16AM) (new)

Deb (soulhaven) | 103 comments I rarely skim or skip. I'm pre-programmed to believe that if I did so I just might happen to miss some vital clue to the plot... I like to figure things out by picking up all those dropped crumbs...

That being said... if the book is FILLED with BORING description and mundane dialogue, then, YES... I will skip... and I will give it a lower star rating. I recently read a book where many of the conversations were very mundane indeed. And the dialogue that was meant to be telling me interesting plot stuff didn't interest me either, becaue most of the plot was happening off screen while the book focused on the developing romance that was rather boring, really. And as for the descriptions of the meals the MC ate... I.JUST.DON'T.CARE!

Also, Gormenghast... I think I started to skip description in that. Mervin Peake did have a habit of describing the same landscape from five different angles, though... So, by the forth or fifth iteration I was jumping ahead. I hear GRRM does a little of this, too... (No, I haven't picked up his books, yet... plan to)


message 9: by Dawn (new)

Dawn J Stevens (dawnjstevens) | 51 comments Anthony wrote: "Traditionally novels are packed with filling to make them an acceptable length for sale, got to be so many thousand words, this process is a real killer of great talent. I hear so many writers prou..."

YES! I still have the belief that QUALITY matters over QUANTITY. It's the main reason I didn't finish NaNo last year... my story was finished, and I added everything I needed to add, but was still 2,000 words short. I didn't care. I wasn't going to fluff it up and cause me grief later in the editing just so I could say I won NaNo. Even the final edited version was under 50,000, but oh well.


message 10: by G.G. (new)

G.G. (ggatcheson) | 1053 comments Mod
I have to agree with that.

Quality leaves you wanting more, while quantity makes you wanting less!

I don't like the fluff thing either. Go straight to the point unless it's to describe how the characters feel. I do prefer 'show' than 'tell', so more words is in that case is better. However, for the sake of the story, some 'tells' slipped among mostly 'shows' may help prevent a 'quantity' problem. Good judgment must prevail.


message 11: by J (new)

J | 301 comments Mod
I think my lack of description is why the first draft of my current novel was so short... 42,000 words? I usually add a couple lines of description when the object being described is being interacted with... like if the character steps on gum, I'll describe the shoe a bit... I like to add 'paint' and 'color' to the page, but not dip the page in the paint can... x3 In my old story, I noticed I had 2 paragraphs at times describing thoroughly what a character was wearing... now I just add a sentence just to give an idea of how they're dressed---formal dress, casual dress, fashionable dress---plus fashion involved with the story, so the character slightly focuses on what people wear... but not excessively because fashion is just a sub plot.

But I guess I rarely skip over parts---I skip over parts of my textbooks, but usually not in literature...


message 12: by Ann (new)

Ann  Thorrson (ann_thorrson) | 2536 comments Mod
"I skip over parts of my textbooks"

Oh dear :p


message 13: by Carl (new)

Carl Not usually, though I do sometimes when I read pop novels. Okay, yeah, Twilight, for example.


message 14: by Ann (new)

Ann  Thorrson (ann_thorrson) | 2536 comments Mod
I'm not gonna name books, but there have been some recent mainstream releases I've skimmed half, skipped a quarter more and then just finished it off by giving it to the bin :p


message 15: by Valerie (new)

Valerie O'Brien | 28 comments Sometimes I skim descriptions if they're drawn out, but mostly because I want to get to the good parts of the story again. I don't do this with dialogue.


message 16: by Fay (new)

Fay Risner (booksbyfay) | 6 comments I recently skipped over the descriptions to get to the interactions between the characters. The book was about a female firefighter joining a firehouse full of firemen. The paragraphs of descriptions about the firehouse, trucks and equipment showed the author had done her research, but I felt I didn't need to know every detail about the job in order to enjoy the romance between the characters.


message 17: by Dawn (new)

Dawn J Stevens (dawnjstevens) | 51 comments Fay - that's exactly the kind of things I skip, both as an author and as a reader. The research might not have made it into the book, but still necessary. Now if the detail would have been spread out in the book or had some sort of purpose (for example, the characters interact with objects around the room), then it would have been fine. But endless setting descriptions... boring! Give me action or give me death (or a mix of both!)


message 18: by Ann (new)

Ann  Thorrson (ann_thorrson) | 2536 comments Mod
I get irritated at extra detailed descriptions of cars. I have no idea about cars, so calling a car by its name means nothing to me lol I'll just think of it as a blue car :p


message 19: by Claire (new)

Claire (cycraw) | 278 comments I recently read Chelsea Fine's series 'The Archers of Avalon'. I enjoyed them, but in the last book, where she gave the history of the characters for chapters on end, I just skipped right over them. It didn't effect the story at all and it was rather boring.


message 20: by Carl (new)

Carl I think we skip much of this material because it's unnecessary. Well-placed adjectives serve as substitutes for paragraphs or even passages.


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