The Catcher in the Rye
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The Most Overrated Books
Paul Martin wrote: "Fall is exactly like Pillars.I can't believe I've wasted a part of my life reading over 1000 pages of that drivel."
Lol. Why did you read it?
Karen wrote: "Paul Martin wrote: "Fall is exactly like Pillars.I can't believe I've wasted a part of my life reading over 1000 pages of that drivel."
Lol. Why did you read it?"
I'm curious too. Is it well-researched (I've heard he writes historical novels now).
I didn't know any better. It was before I really started enjoying literature - I bought it on a whim in a airport shop five minutes before boarding the plane to Australia - I thought a book would be handy. And I liked the grandiose title, haha... They started serving alcohol straight away though, so no reading on that plane...
Karen wrote: "Kallie wrote: "Monty J wrote: "Priyanka wrote: "Such a cruel thing to call The catcher in the rye an overrated book ."Could it be a trend, especially among the younger set, that things are overra..."
I'm going to play devil's advocate for a minute because since I've fully embraced e-reading, I've been accused of "not reading" many times because people haven't seen me with a physical book. My nose does always seem to be in a smart phone or a tablet....but I have the kindle app on all of my electronic devices. I know texting and games are big with young people and that is likely what they're doing but I also know what it feels like to be unfairly judged and lumped into a certain category.
I'm curious too. Is it well-researched (I've heard he writes historical novels now).He takes huge liberties, but they're not really dishonest from a historic point of view, as far as I can tell. But then I'm no expert.
I've fully embraced e-readingYou filthy dog :-)
Paul Martin wrote: "I'm curious too. Is it well-researched (I've heard he writes historical novels now).He takes huge liberties, but they're not really dishonest from a historic point of view, as far as I can tell. ..."
The "liberties" part is well . . . for someone who seems to have as little imagination as he exhibits in Pillars, I guess that's an accomplishment in itself?
Paul Martin wrote: "I've fully embraced e-readingYou filthy dog :-)"
Lol. Did I accidentally stumble into the land of the physical book snobs? :p
....btw, I want to re-read Catcher, but it's not available in e-book format......except for pdf's that can be found online, which I suspect are not exactly "legal". :(
Mochaspresso wrote: "Karen wrote: "Kallie wrote: "Monty J wrote: "Priyanka wrote: "Such a cruel thing to call The catcher in the rye an overrated book ."Could it be a trend, especially among the younger set, that thi..."
I understand that-it's unfortunate and I TRY not to do it.
Haha, true.The one memorable scene from Fall is when a young German berates his father for his generations arrogance and lust for war.
Lol. Did I accidentally stumble into the land of the physical book snobs? :pHaha no, just kidding.
I prefer physical books myself, but I have nothing against e-books. There's always going to be a marked for both.
Paul Martin wrote: "Haha, true.The one memorable scene from Fall is when a young German berates his father for his generations arrogance and lust for war."
I liked Ken Follet's "On Wings of Eagles", but I just read it once, decades ago.
Paul Martin wrote: "Haha, true.The one memorable scene from Fall is when a young German berates his father for his generations arrogance and lust for war."
I'd have to work hard to remember anything specific from Pillars, other than my first thought and foremost impression: "finally done with this f-er," and "I guess someone's using one of the novel-generating software packages."
"I guess someone's using one of the novel-generating software packages."And with an improvement on the sex-scene script, he could even beat Dan Brown when it comes to sales numbers.
Paul Martin wrote: ""I guess someone's using one of the novel-generating software packages."And with an improvement on the sex-scene script, he could even beat Dan Brown when it comes to sales numbers."
Just plug in a 50 Shades module :D
Maybe more writers should have erotic writes co-write their sex scenes. Gregory David Roberts, you hear me? "my body was her chariot and she rode me into the sun"
Yes, really.
Paul Martin wrote: "Maybe more writers should have erotic writes co-write their sex scenes. Gregory David Roberts, you hear me? "my body was her chariot and she rode me into the sun"
Yes, really."
Euphemisms like that are enough to drive a person to using honest vulgarity.
Paul Martin wrote: "Maybe more writers should have erotic writes co-write their sex scenes. Gregory David Roberts, you hear me? "my body was her chariot and she rode me into the sun"
Yes, really."
Oh that's awful! Oh my, what a titilating metaphor.
I love e-books! They enable me to read in places where I couldn't change carry some books. And they have one big advantage; they enable me to get a book instantly whenever I want it. I've actually seen a book on this discussion group and gone to Amazon and been reading in less than 5 minutes.
Renee wrote: "Euphemisms like that are enough to drive a person to using honest vulgarity."
Lol. Vulgarity can be good.
Anne Hawn wrote: "I love e-books! They enable me to read in places where I couldn't change carry some books. And they have one big advantage; they enable me to get a book instantly whenever I want it. I've actual..."Same here. Plus, I don't really have a choice in the matter. I have very poor eyesight. Even with reading glasses, I couldn't read anything with small print without good lighting and a magnifier without squinting and straining my eyes. Without e-books, I'd be stuck in the land of carrying around book lights and magnifiers and even worse, limited to only reading the books available in large print editions.
yes. I am waiting for an eye operation,can only read kindle with enlarged font
Paul Martin wrote: "Maybe more writers should have erotic writes co-write their sex scenes. Gregory David Roberts, you hear me? "my body was her chariot and she rode me into the sun"
Yes, really."
I don't want to imagine this scene but do you suppose he is saying that she had a whip?
Hah, I never thought about that, but no, I'm pretty sure that's not what he was trying to convey!
Paul Martin wrote: "Hah, I never thought about that, but no, I'm pretty sure that's not what he was trying to convey!"It could at least make it funny if she did.
Karen wrote: "It could at least make it funny if she did."Maybe he meant it, but intentionally made the clues vague so they would only be noticeable to experienced BDSMers...
Paul Martin wrote: "Karen wrote: "It could at least make it funny if she did."Maybe he meant it, but intentionally made the clues vague so they would only be noticeable to experienced BDSMers..."
Oh... I had to look that up on wiki. That doesn't really go with what I am reading.
Haha, sorry about that.
Paul Martin wrote: "Haha, sorry about that."Oh that's okay, it was weirdly funny reading about it.
Mochaspresso wrote: "....btw, I want to re-read Catcher, but it's ..."
This was a huge disappointment to me too. It is also not on Audible either. There is an audio version of it out there.
I also love ebooks. I like physical books as well. I think there is a place for both! For reading Ulysses it has been very helpful. I have a kindle fire and it will read most of the books I download, which I really like.
I was reluctant to buy an ebook, but now I'd say I do about half of my reading on it. I can stick it in my pocket and read while waiting for an appointment, I can choose a font that doesn't cause eye strain, and can even slip it into a zip-lock plastic bag and read in the bathtub!
Michael wrote: " even slip it into a zip-lock plastic bag and read in the bathtub!"Wish I had thought of that before... .
Monty J wrote: "Michael wrote: " even slip it into a zip-lock plastic bag and read in the bathtub!"Wish I had thought of that before... ."
With lots of bubbles!
Renee wrote: "Or the pool!"The pool with lots of bubbles and a slide.
Karen wrote: "Renee wrote: "Or the pool!"The pool with lots of bubbles and a slide."
:D I kinda like mine quiet, no one else around, sunshine and secluded. Saves having to wear a suit and tan lines.
Renee wrote: "Karen wrote: "Renee wrote: "Or the pool!"The pool with lots of bubbles and a slide."
:D I kinda like mine quiet, no one else around, sunshine and secluded. Saves having to wear a suit and tan l..."
If the pool had seawater only, I would use it. I'd rather be in the ocean!
If the pool had seawater only, I would use it. I'd rather be in the ocean!Amen.
Paul Martin wrote: "If the pool had seawater only, I would use it. I'd rather be in the ocean!Amen."
The next best thing would be Lake Michigan. I've never been there, or Lake Superior. I've been to the others. Mini oceans.
But they pretty much feel and look like oceans, right? We don't have any lakes that huge over here.
They're cold!
Maybe the Atlantic is cold over your way, but in America it's nice!
It usually is, but this summer's been crazy. If every summer was like this, we'd get more tourists than Greece and Turkey combined!
Petergiaquinta wrote: "They're cold!"Ya I thought of you when I posted that as I figured you have been to Lake Michigan, and I've heard it's cold. But on a hot day? It would have to be hot. I live on Cape Cod Massachusetts (that peninsula that sticks out into the atlantic), the outer ocean is cold, the southern side is at least 6-10 degrees warmer.
Looks like a really nice place!
Paul Martin wrote: "It usually is, but this summer's been crazy. If every summer was like this, we'd get more tourists than Greece and Turkey combined!"You get the jet stream though right? The Cape peninsula at the very outermost part doesn't get it- the water in July is no more than 65f
We do. Without it, but it's still cold most of the time, but some summers it just suddenly gets really hot. I don't know why, really, but I supposed there's some good explanation for it.Another curiosity is that with the water getting warmer and warmer + the increasing amount of Atlantic bluefin tuna (which virtually disappeared due to heavy fishing in the 50s and 60s), it's only a matter of time before the great white shark settles in nicely along our shores.
Normal for you folks over there, but kind of mind-boggling for us!
Paul Martin wrote:"Another curiosity is that with the water getting warmer and warmer + the increasing amount of Atlantic bluefin tuna (which virtually disappeared to to heavy fishing in the 50s and 60s), it's only a matter of time before the great white shark settles in nicely along our shores. Normal for you folks over there, but kind of mind-boggling for us!"
Seeing those sharks are so cool! See a fin, don't go in.
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I can't believe I've wasted a part of my life reading over 1000 pages of that drivel.