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message 1: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
As you may have noticed, librarian logs have a new feature: a flag link. We've made it easy to flag edits you believe are incorrect. Rather than getting into an edit/revert war with another librarian, just flag the edit(s) to bring them to our attention, and explain the issue in the comment box. We will review all flags, and librarians making incorrect edits will be sent a message clarifying our policies.


Elizabeth (Alaska) Excellent feature - thank you!


message 3: by Deon (new)

Deon (deonva) | 3718 comments nice feature!


message 4: by Banjomike (new)

Banjomike | 5166 comments Useful. Are there more 'undo's in the logs now? Or is just reformatted?


message 5: by rivka, Former Moderator (last edited Oct 08, 2013 04:34PM) (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
I believe the formatting was changed slightly to accommodate the flag link.

Edit: Actually, it has been fixed now.


message 6: by Cait (new)

Cait (tigercait) | 4988 comments Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!


message 7: by Banjomike (new)

Banjomike | 5166 comments If I see a cover change that, in my opinion, should not have been done I would normally just revert it. Are we to flag it such issues as soon as we see them or only if they get changed again?


message 8: by Sara ♥ (new)

Sara ♥ (saranicole) | 316 comments Awesome!


message 9: by Cait (new)

Cait (tigercait) | 4988 comments Banjomike wrote: "If I see a cover change that, in my opinion, should not have been done I would normally just revert it. Are we to flag it such issues as soon as we see them or only if they get changed again?"

Since this is something which is, by its nature, already part of an audit log, I would hope it would be okay to flag and revert a change if needed....


message 10: by Lobstergirl (new)

Lobstergirl Unfortunately, there is no way to flag the automated one-click NAB when done improperly.

Do we contact support if we're trying to add a book which has been nabbed by one-click?


message 11: by Lobstergirl (new)

Lobstergirl Should we flag the incorrect change and leave it unchanged for staff to see? Or correct it?


message 12: by Lobstergirl (new)

Lobstergirl Sometimes there's nothing to flag. E.g. here

https://www.goodreads.com/book/edits/...

the author has been changed to M.F.K. Fisher. This is incorrect. The librarian who is suppoedly the source for that edit can't be flagged. Also I looked through every single page of edits for all editions and did not see that librarian's name among them. What gives? Did that librarian make that edit before the librarian log came into existence? I've had this book on my shelf forever, and I know when I shelved it the author's name was correctly supplied, not M.F.K. Fisher. (Fisher is the translator on this.)


message 13: by Renske (new)

Renske | 12223 comments If I see something I find important enough to flag it I would leave it as it is.

Re 12, I think that edit was made before the log was changed. But what would be the purpose of flagging such an old edit?


message 14: by Lobstergirl (new)

Lobstergirl Well, it wouldn't be obvious to any and all librarians that that was an old edit. After all I asked the question "did that librarian make that edit before the librarian log came into existence?" Meaning I didn't know the answer definitively.


message 15: by Emy (new)

Emy (emypt) | 5037 comments I've noticed that sometimes you cannot flag an erroneous change if you have already "undone". Not a problem once you know, but worth being aware of.


message 16: by W.H. (new)

W.H. (lovetiggi) | 98 comments Thank You!


message 17: by Nicole (new)

Nicole (thistlefox) | 5 comments That's wonderful :)


message 18: by Empress (new)

Empress (the_empress) To be honest instead of that flag option I would prefer if there was an option to send a PM to the librarian that has made the edit, containing my message and a link to the edit. Currently not every Librarian allows to be send a PM and the dilemma is either to let it go or flag the person, but if it is a minor thing, should we really flag it and bother the staff. But then should I go trough all the persons edits to fix everything?


message 19: by [deleted user] (last edited Nov 26, 2013 07:02AM) (new)

Lobstergirl wrote: "Sometimes there's nothing to flag. E.g. here

https://www.goodreads.com/book/edits/...

the author has been changed to M.F.K. Fisher. This is incorrect. The librarian who is... (Fisher is the translator on this.)"


Is that really worth flagging to Goodreads support? If you just edit the entry & label M.F.K. Fisher's Role as "translator", does that other librarian come back in and "Fix" it again? If every mistake made by a Librarian is going to have to be adjudicated by Goodreads staff, they are going to be awfully busy.


message 20: by Banjomike (last edited Nov 26, 2013 07:14AM) (new)

Banjomike | 5166 comments G33z3r wrote: "Is that really worth flagging to Goodreads support? If you just edit the entry & label M.F.K. Fisher's Role as "translator", does that other librarian come back in and "Fix" it again? If every mistake made by a Librarian is going to have to be adjudicated by Goodreads staff, they are going to be awfully busy. "

Some librarians need to be flagged. They will revert valid changes and reverse corrections, repeatedly, until the cows come home. You don't have to flag everything but sometimes you absolutely have to. Besides, this is the staff's idea.


message 21: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
As always, if you think it needs flagging, flag. And if you're not sure, it's fine to flag too.


message 22: by [deleted user] (new)

Banjomike wrote: "Some librarians need to be flagged. They will revert valid changes and reverse corrections, repeatedly, until the cows come home. You don't have to flag everything but sometimes you absolutely have to. Besides, this is the staff's idea...."

Which is why I asked, "If you just edit the entry ...., does that other Librarian come back in and "fix" it again?". There's a difference between just fixing a simple mistake and getting into an update war with a stubborn fellow Librarian who won't take a hint....


message 23: by Banjomike (new)

Banjomike | 5166 comments G33z3r wrote: "Which is why I asked, "If you just edit the entry ...., does that other Librarian come back in and "fix" it again?". There's a difference between just fixing a simple mistake and getting into an update war with a stubborn fellow Librarian who won't take a hint.... "

It happens all the time. On this edition the duff edits are made by a Deleted Member so we aren't using any names.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/edits/...

Ignore page 3 of the edits, read page 2 from the bottom then page 1. Multiple illegal cover changes. Reverted by me. Immediately followed, the same day, by more multiple illegal cover changes. Reverted by me. Immediately followed, the same day, by more illegal cover changes. Reverted by me. Immediately followed, the same day, by more multiple illegal cover changes. Flagged by me and reverted by staff. I did message about alternate cover editions etc but that was ignored.


Erin *Proud Book Hoarder* (erinpaperbackstash) | 96 comments Great feature/idea, thank you


message 26: by Elizabeth (Alaska) (last edited Dec 13, 2013 08:33AM) (new)

Elizabeth (Alaska) I looked for this this morning. Has the flag option been removed?


message 27: by Plethora (last edited Dec 13, 2013 09:10AM) (new)

Plethora (bookworm_r) | 359 comments Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "I looked for this this morning. Has the flag option been removed?"

I just checked a random book and still saw the [flag] option.


Elizabeth (Alaska) https://www.goodreads.com/book/edits/...

Could it be a browser issue? I'm using Chrome.


Elizabeth (Alaska) Should I report in Feedback?


message 30: by Banjomike (last edited Dec 13, 2013 09:27AM) (new)

Banjomike | 5166 comments Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Should I report in Feedback?"

Looking at the page I linked in #23 as an example, I see the flag link in Firefox 26, Chrome 31, IE 9 all on PC. Are you using a mobile device?


Elizabeth (Alaska) No, I don't own a mobile device (can't imagine wanting one). I linked to a book edit page in #29, rather than to a specific librarian edits page. Do you see the edit flag link on that page?


Nucking Futs the Fire Fairy Book-a-holic (firefairyholic) | 348 comments I'm using an old phone and i can see the edit flag link.


message 33: by Elizabeth (Alaska) (last edited Dec 13, 2013 09:42AM) (new)

Elizabeth (Alaska) Chelssie's~midnight~parade~of~a~hundred~demons wrote: "I'm using an old phone and i can see the edit flag link."

Can you see it on this link?

https://www.goodreads.com/book/edits/...

ETA: I am looking specifically at the edits in the right hand column. The second entry is a Goodreads update of an incorrect change in original publication date. I wanted to flag that update, but was unable to do so.


message 34: by Banjomike (new)

Banjomike | 5166 comments Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "No, I don't own a mobile device (can't imagine wanting one). I linked to a book edit page in #29, rather than to a specific librarian edits page. Do you see the edit flag link on that page?"

Yes. Only one per set of edits, but it is there.

This is what I see, minus bolding etc.
Elizabeth (Alaska) updated the book Adam Bede by George Eliot
publication_year: '999' to '1999' (undo)
language_code: 'en-US' to 'eng' (undo)
(flag)



Elizabeth (Alaska) Banjomike wrote: "Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "No, I don't own a mobile device (can't imagine wanting one). I linked to a book edit page in #29, rather than to a specific librarian edits page. Do you see the edit flag..."

Ha! and now it is magically back! I was going to copy/paste so you could see, but now it is changed. Quick fix!


message 36: by Plethora (last edited Dec 13, 2013 10:09AM) (new)

Plethora (bookworm_r) | 359 comments Or of those bugaboo's that you have to say outloud for them to disappear.

Or take to the car dealer and your car stops that clunking sound, until you drive off shaking your head.


Nucking Futs the Fire Fairy Book-a-holic (firefairyholic) | 348 comments I guess it doesn't matter anymore if I say yes, i can see the flag link on that page. :)


Elizabeth (Alaska) Chelssie's~midnight~parade~of~a~hundred~demons wrote: "I guess it doesn't matter anymore if I say yes, i can see the flag link on that page. :)"

Ha! And I'm so glad you can!


message 39: by Maryanne (new)

Maryanne So what are we doing exactly? I'm new here, so I don't know what to say.


message 40: by Melody (new)

Melody (runningtune) | 13300 comments https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8...

Will the Goodreads' employee correct the incorrect edit or do they just contact the Librarian to let them know about their error? I flagged this a long time ago and it has not been corrected.


message 41: by Empress (last edited Apr 21, 2014 05:09AM) (new)

Empress (the_empress) Melody wrote: "https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8...

Will the Goodreads' employee correct the incorrect edit or do they just contact the Librarian to let them know about their erro..."


Fixed. The edit of whoever did it is still there if you want to re-flag or if the staff wants to review it.

I think they only send emails to the librarians. But an answer about that from the staff would be nice.

I did once receive an email for entering editors on books editions, I wish they have send me the books or edits where they have noticed this happening, as I might have not known they are editors (or it might that I just haven't removed them, often editors are entered with the authors names without being distinguished)

I still wonder which are the books I got and if they got corrected.


message 42: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
If you have questions about something you have flagged, please use the Contact Us link on the Help page.

However, as a general rule, it is ok to fix an incorrect edit before flagging. Except in the case where there is an edit war in process -- in that case, please ONLY flag.


message 43: by محمد (new)

محمد عرفه (muhammadarafa) | 1 comments I applied for Goodreads Author status, but I haven't received a response >>> that was 2 months ago >> why???


message 44: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Librarians have no control over Goodreads Author status. If you have questions about that, you'll need to use the Contact Us link on the Help page.


message 45: by Sara (new)

Sara Gauldin (sebgwrites) | 8 comments Would anybody be able or willing to help me modify my book's title. I originally release my book as The Corporeal Pull. Due to marketing I have re-tiled the book Alive with the Subtitle The Corporeal Pull. I need to change the book's listing to reflect the change.

Thanks,

Sara B. Gauldin


message 46: by Catalina (new)

Catalina | 2066 comments Re 46: I added an alternate cover edition and combined with the others: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...

You can set it as the default edition following this instructions: https://www.goodreads.com/help#defaul...


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