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I find it fascinating that people can actually act the way they do in these stories. What happened to them or how are their brains wired? In many ways I find it more fascinating than mysteries because there usually isn't a nice tie-up. These people may go to jail, but that doesn't explain what they did. We rarely find a real motive. We can't get in their heads like an author can in a mystery.
It's a fascinating look at a side of life we tend to push into the corner. People are capable of horrible things, just like in the crime and mystery novels; it isn't made-up stuff. And I doubt any fiction writer can top what some of these criminals do.
But how do we deal with it? Are some people just born bad? Is it wiring in the brain or neuronal misfiring? Does it have to do with their treatment while growing up? Is it all mental illness issues?
True crime, as the article mentions, doesn't have to deal with murder. Think All the President's Men and Catch Me If You Can. While collar crime is in the newspapers daily and people who say they don't read true crime obviously don't realize it's in the paper everyday. And I don't mean the usual killings and such. Bernie Madoff may be a worse criminal that Ted Bundy every was.



I'd also add The Black Dahlia, which is a mystery based on the real Black Dahlia case. Technically not a true crime, but a great book.



I have Devil in The White City on my list.

Devil in the white city is on my to-read list, I think its based on the HH Holmes crimes.




One is better than the other. Just that we all have our preferences!!!

Actually, I read neither. Just haven't found a true crime book that I want to read. Years ago, probably when it came out, I attempted to read In Cold Blood, but, never finished it.
I do not read fanzines. Oh, I'll leave through one if that's all that's at my Drs. office. But, my problem there, is I really don't know any of the people being written about. I am not a follower. by any means, of pop culture.


Has anybody read any John Douglas or Robert Ressler, who were both criminal profilers with the FBI? If not, I would definitely recommend them both, especially Journey Into Darkness, which I thought was amazing.
There is also a criminal profiler called Paul Britton (in the UK), who wrote a book called The Jigsaw Man: The Remarkable Career of Britain's Foremost Criminal Psychologist. I would definitely recommend this too. Paul Britton became quite notorious in some ways for his involvement in a high profile murder case (Rachel Nickell) some years ago, and it is interesting to see his take on what happened.


Same here Britney. The psychology of it is fascinating.


Ooooo, these sound very interesting. I am adding them to my list!!!

http://www.the-line-up.com/media/vict...
The Napoleon of Crime: The Life and Times of Adam Worth, Master Thief

Mr Briggs' Hat: A Sensational Account of Britain's First Railway Murder

The Suspicions of Mr. Whicher: A Shocking Murder and the Undoing of a Great Victorian Detective

Did She Kill Him?: A Victorian Tale of Deception, Adultery, and Arsenic

London 1849: A Victorian Murder Story

The Murder of Helen Jewett


7 DISTURBING BOOKS ABOUT SERIAL KILLERS
http://www.the-line-up.com/8-disturbi...
From Ted Bundy to the Genesse River Killer, get inside the heads of history's most notorious serial murderers.
The Stranger Beside Me: Ted Bundy The Shocking Inside Story

Note: Ann Rule sadly died last night.
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-n...
Body Dump: Kendall Francois, the Poughkeepsie Serial Killer

The Misbegotten Son

Love Me to Death: A Journalists Memoir of the Hunt for Her Friends Killer

Silent Rage: Inside the Mind of a Serial Killer

Forever and Five Days: The Chilling True Story of Love, Betrayal, and Serial Murder in Grand Rapids, Michigan

Bind, Torture, Kill: The Inside Story of the Serial Killer Next Door





But, more normal for me is to read crime fiction. Not any real reason, I just prefer reading fiction.

I do like reading true crime. To me it's more interesting than fiction detective and suspense novels, which is really just like true crime but with made up stories.

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In Cold Blood (other topics)In Cold Blood (other topics)
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Body Dump: Kendall Francois, the Poughkeepsie Serial Killer (other topics)
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Charles Graeber's top 10 true crime books
The true crime genre has a bad reputation, often providing pulp with tabloid appeal, but there are some stone-cold classics
The most prolific serial killer in American history refused to speak with anybody. Then he started talking to me. Eight years later, the result is The Good Nurse, a book which, as a work of non-fiction with murder involved, is shelved in the genre of true crime. Which isn't, strictly speaking, a compliment.
You'll find no section in your bookseller for true history, or true memoir or true politics (though perhaps you should). Only crime gets treated like a criminal. It's as if the unethical subject matter has rubbed off on the writer and the writing.
Some of that reputation is deserved. Many "true crime" offerings are pulpy quickies with a tabloid heart and tabloid brains – human tragedy served as porno McNuggets. (Actually, that description fails. I'd like porno McNuggets, they sound yummy. But these books turn out the opposite – stale and flat as cardboard, and, frankly, "untrue".)
Happily, hidden among this genre are a heap of fulfilling standouts. The term given to books like these is "literary true crime". It's the triple-modified backhanded compliment and the term still seems a bit overwrought. Try introducing your lover as a "lovely, devout and a reformed prostitute" and you'll understand.
Whatever the genre title, this section marks the sweetspot of highbrow and low, truth and art, and among the thugs of the genre you'll find master craftspeople holding dirt but wielding the same literary toolkit available to the investigative journalist, the novelist and the poet, creating dirty and deep page-turners with the pacing of a thriller and a setting in the dirtiest of all worlds: the real one.
Narrowing them down to a "top 10" is impossible, but here are some of the best.
1. Under the Banner of Heaven: A Story of Violent Faith, by Jon Krakauer
Krakauer is a master journalist and a storyteller who is unfettered by and unafraid of the true crime mantle. Here, he transcends the genre with a story of Mormon brothers Ron and Dan Lafferty, who insisted God gave them commands (commandments?) to kill. Krakauer pries open the golden doors to one of the newest and fastest-growing religions to set the stage for the non-fiction drama.
2. All the President's Men, by Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodward
Is it too much to ask that a book not only provide a riveting read, but also inform a nation, and change the world? Answer: no. This one took down a presidency. The details are fascinating to journalists and normal people alike, the pacing is surprisingly engaging, and the result is a gumshoe news procedural with a rather happy ending, and a true crime book which became true history.
3. Columbine, by Dave Cullen
Like most folk, I thought I knew what happened during the Columbine, Colorado "trenchcoat mafia" school shooting in on 20 April, 1999. Dave Cullen proved me wrong. He spent a decade pulling out fresh sources and details about the lives of teen murderers Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, then artfully pieced them into a ticking narrative which culminates in a moment-by-moment account of the massacre itself. You'll be ducking under your desk as you read.
4. Blood and Money, by Thomas Thompson
Noir classics such as The Thin Man or The Maltese Falcon are famous partly for the menagerie of bizarre and desperate characters encountered along the way to solving a crime. Investigative journalist and author Thompson finds the same in real-life Texas, as he digs into the 1969 murder of an oil heiress and Houston socialite. Truth here is far stranger than fiction.
5. The Executioner's Song, by Norman Mailer
A literary epic about real crime. In terms of scope and ambition and ego, not to mention length, it's hard to top Mailer's doorstopper about the life, crimes and execution of a Utah murderous drifter named Gary Gilmore. But who cares about the dirtbag - the meat of this book comes from Mailer's partnership with a Hollywood player, which gave him access to the meta-story, as agents and middlemen shamelessly jockey to secure rights to Gilmore's story and execution. It's too good, if too long, and hey, it won the Pulitzer.
6. The Stranger Beside Me: Ted Bundy, the Shocking Inside Story, by Anne Rule
Before Rule became one of the best known American true crime writers, she had a day job working side by side at a suicide hotline centre with Ted Bundy – who she knew as a handsome, charismatic friend, and who the world would later know as a brutal serial killer. Unsettling and personal stuff.
7. Homicide: a year on the Killing Streets, by David Simon
Simon took a hiatus from his job as a Baltimore newspaper reporter to embed with homicide detectives in one of the most dangerous cities in the US, and then a few more to masterfully weave the stories together from all sides – players and the played, cops and baddies and innocents. Aside from providing grist for anyone attempting to understand the hard truths of life in an American warzone, this one of the most readable books here, particularly if you've ever lost a month bingeing on The Wire – a series based largely on this book.
8. Helter Skelter: The True Story of the Manson Murders, by Vincent Bugliosi with Curt Gentry
You can't deny the all-time bestseller of the genre, or the detail-driven dive into the world of Charles Manson and his addled cult known as "the family", written by a prosecutor of the Tate-LaBianca murders with access to all the grim details, partnered with a solid historical writer in Gentry.
9. In Cold Blood, by Truman Capote
This classic cannot be denied, even if sullied by recent questions about Capote's liberties with the facts and his poor treatment of his former friend and researcher, Harper Lee. Capote revelled in shattering notions of what a crime book could be, and the first to raise it to the novelistic level. His dissection of a 1959 home invasion and murder in rural Kansas is as much a drill down on disparate lives and family secrets as it is of the brutal crime itself, and his exclusive access to one of the young murderers is both sympathetic and damning.
10. People Who Eat Darkness: the Fate of Lucie Blackman, by Richard Lloyd Parry
A recent read, and a favourite. In April of 2000, Lucie Blackman was a blonde 21-year-old from Kent who suddenly disappeared into an unmarked door within the labyrinth of Tokyo's "hostess" bar culture. Parry is an award-winning UK foreign correspondent who spent an obsessed decade down the rabbithole of a curious story which got curiouser with each dirty turn. Take on a few chapters and get drawn into the rabbithole yourself. It won't take you 10 years, I promise.
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The group read The Devil in the White City: Murder, Magic, and Madness at the Fair that Changed America a few months ago; do you read true crime? If you do, what are your favorites? If you don't why not?