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message 1: by Bill (new)

Bill | 55 comments Mod
Okay, I'm watching a phenomenon unfold regarding Stephenie Meyer's Twilight books and movie. As if the undead needed any more publicity (vampires always seem to be cool), the Twilight movie has given them new life (no pun intended).

But what's the appeal of Twilight? And is the vampire in that movie (and book series) cooler than Angel? Or Spike? Is the protagonist in Twilight better than Buffy, or any character in the Buffy series?

Please explain to me why Twilight is such a hit. Then tell me you've been able to turn your Twilight-smitten friends on to Buffy when they tell you how much they like vampires.


message 2: by Rachel (new)

Rachel | 44 comments Twilight seems to make Vampires as forever-loving romatic creatures. They aren't like that. It drives me nuts when people put the love swing to something like Vampires. And in Twilight the Vampires glissen in the sunlight? WTF??? Why does Stephenie Meyer think she can re-write the Vampire folk-lore?


message 3: by [deleted user] (new)

Twilight sucks!!!


message 4: by Libby (new)

Libby | 9 comments @ Kelsey - Agreed - Twilight is truly bad literature. I couldn't get past the first few pages of the book because the writing was horrible! I don't know about the plot but I have no interest in seeing the movies either.

Joss' work is original, witty and intense. He is a master of his craft. Apologies, but Stephanie Meyer is a bored housewife who is basically writing an explicit teen soap opera to jazz up her own boring life. It takes the intelligence of a sock to read and follow her books.

Joss' work requires a bit more brain power than that -it has actual character development, plot, dramatic elements, is well thought out . . .

There is simply no comparison and I feel sorry for anyone wrapped up in Twilight when such better literature and television media is available.



message 5: by [deleted user] (new)

yes i actually read the whole series because i was hoping they would get better they didn't though and now all the teens watch buffy and go he is ruining Vampire myths


message 6: by [deleted user] (new)

just 10 about 10 billion


message 7: by Jeff (new)

Jeff (jeffbickley) What a strange question...Heheheh...truly, there is no contest. Even though we seem to be comparing a book to a tv show (unless you consider the movie, which I have not seen, but have heard from many sources that it is horrible). I read Twilight, and, while I would not say that it is the worst book I have ever read, I did not and will not read the rest of them. Twilight is not very good writing. It's not horrible, but it's far from great. Plus, being a 51 year old man, I'm far from the target audience for this series, which is obviously pre-teen girls. Or maybe just barely teen girls. I have a t-shirt that says, "...and then Buffy staked Edward. The End." I also found a Facebook Flair button that says, "William the Bloody Versus Edward the Sparkly. I think you know who'll win."


message 8: by [deleted user] (new)

yeah i am a teen and i read that book and thought that was the worst book ever but i descided to see if they get better... i was wrong about twilight being the worst book it was definetly the last book Breaking Dawn


message 9: by Susan (new)

Susan Kelsey wrote: "yeah i am a teen and i read that book and thought that was the worst book ever but i descided to see if they get better... i was wrong about twilight being the worst book it was definetly the last ..."

I agree with you completely. I was not impressed with the first book but decided to read the second which I liked and the third was not bad but I really did not care all that much for the 4th book.


message 10: by Susan (new)

Susan Buffy is much better than "Twilight". "Twilight" will fade but "Buffy' will be considered a cult classic for generations to come.


message 11: by [deleted user] (new)

Susan wrote: "Buffy is much better than "Twilight". "Twilight" will fade but "Buffy' will be considered a cult classic for generations to come."

twilight is loved by many people and i am not completly sure if it will fade but twilight ruined everything about a vampire


message 12: by Rachel (last edited Jun 05, 2009 08:23AM) (new)

Rachel | 44 comments I want that shirt and button!!!!!! Where can I find them?
Jeff wrote: "What a strange question...Heheheh...truly, there is no contest. Even though we seem to be comparing a book to a tv show (unless you consider the movie, which I have not seen, but have heard from m..."




message 13: by Jeff (new)

Jeff (jeffbickley) I think I got the shirt at Jinx.com, and the button is not a "real" button, but a piece of Flair on Facebook.


message 14: by Libby (new)

Libby | 9 comments Jeff wrote: "I think I got the shirt at Jinx.com, and the button is not a "real" button, but a piece of Flair on Facebook."

Ok, I've not heard of Jinx.com before . . . now out comes teh wallet ;-)




message 15: by [deleted user] (new)

lol


message 16: by [deleted user] (new)

I like the book Twilight better, but as far as T.V. goes, Buffy's better because, well, I hate to admit it, but the movie sucked. It wasn't very well made, but I still like Edward :)
I think people like Twilight, though, just because of Edward because, seriously, what girl doesn't want a Mr. Perfect like Edward. Plus you kind of have to give the author a break for at least trying to make the vampires different because if they were too much like the Buffy Vampires, which kind of portray the common vampire (burning in sunlight, stake and crossbow, etc.), it would be just WAY to clich'e. You also have to be a little open-minded to this book because if your into vampire books and t.v., you kind of get this picture into your mind of vampires and it's hard to change it. I personally read Twilight before I saw Buffy, but I didn't really care if they were different vampires.
And yah. I love Twilight, but I didn't like Breaking Dawn all that much because I think Renesme kind of ruined it. Don't cha think? Plus it moved a little too quickly.
I think most people hate Twilight because, like my friend Liz, they think it's getting too much popularity. It kind of is, but in a good way because the birth of Twilight ment a comeback for vampires! Seriously, havn't you noticed more and more vampire books and T.V. shows since Twilight?...
But I think we ALL can agree that Twilight was better than the Buffy the Vampire Slayer movie. Ugh! I mean, it had its funny moments, but it was just too cheesy looking. And Buffy and her friends "preppy california surfer girls" attitude and speech was just omigod kill me! "Oh my gawd should we go see, like, a movie, like ya?" "Okay, like, yaw" "Like, AMC?" "Ugh (eyeroll) bogus corn" "Lets just go to the one at the like, mall" "Ya. Omigawd okay!" -_-.....


message 17: by Sofia (new)

Sofia (sofiakennedy) | 65 comments Of course Buffy!!!!!! Twilight's a really really bad book. Everyone says Twilight is way better than anything ever written, but really it's not. The whole Twilight thing is just like a faze. People will get over it eventually. But Buffy is entirely unique and different than all those badly written vampire love stories. They're a billion of those, but no one can recreate Buffy.

And Twilight ruined all those vampire stuff. I mean, seriously. The vampires sparkle in sunlight. What happened to 'catch on fire if sunlight touches you' and stuff. And the whole way to kill a vampire in Twilight was just =P Beheading and sunlight and stakes: Much cooler.



message 18: by [deleted user] (new)

Sofia wrote: "Of course Buffy!!!!!! Twilight's a really really bad book. Everyone says Twilight is way better than anything ever written, but really it's not. The whole Twilight thing is just like a faze. People..."

yes TOTALLY agreed


message 19: by Marc (new)

Marc (authorguy) | 83 comments I just saw a cute Buffy-Twilight video someone edited together, where Buffy dusts Edward big time.

http://www.shoppingblog.com/cgi-bin/s...


message 20: by [deleted user] (new)

OMG that is AWSOME!!!


message 21: by Jeff (new)

Jeff (jeffbickley) I love that video! Thanks for sharing it!


message 22: by [deleted user] (new)

yeah that was like soooo funny


message 23: by [deleted user] (new)

i laughed so hard when he died i was like take that !!!!!


message 24: by Sofia (new)

Sofia (sofiakennedy) | 65 comments That was so cool!!! I LOVED IT!!!


message 25: by [deleted user] (new)

YEAH


message 26: by Luann (new)

Luann (azbookgal) Wow, that was VERY well done!

On the subject of Buffy v. Twilight, though, why do I have to choose between them? I like them both. I did have a few problems with the Twilight books and they really aren't up the to caliber of Buffy, but I still enjoyed reading them. The sparkly in the sun was a bit cheesy - and I didn't like it at all in the movie - but overall I thought they were worth reading.


message 27: by [deleted user] (new)

Luann wrote: "Wow, that was VERY well done!

On the subject of Buffy v. Twilight, though, why do I have to choose between them? I like them both. I did have a few problems with the Twilight books and they reall..."


the twilight book was badly writenit was a waist aof time


message 28: by Luann (new)

Luann (azbookgal) Kelsey wrote: "the twilight book was badly writenit was a waist aof time"

I do agree that she could use a good editor.


message 29: by [deleted user] (new)

no she could have used to rip out all the pages and start OVER


message 30: by Rachel (new)

Rachel | 44 comments I'm 1/2 way through the book and I have to admitt, I like it. Not her take on Vampires at all. If they can go out into the sun, and yes shimmer, then why are they so white? just so they appear as Vamps? doesn't make sence. I like it because I can relate to Bella when I was in HS


message 31: by [deleted user] (new)

bella is a freak whiner and is very annoying she relys WAY to much on boys and is stupid


message 32: by Marc (new)

Marc (authorguy) | 83 comments Rachel wrote: "If they can go out into the sun, and yes shimmer, then why are they so white?"

Because they are afraid to go out in the sun, since the get all glittery.


message 33: by [deleted user] (new)

which is stupid


message 34: by Marc (new)

Marc (authorguy) | 83 comments Yes, it's stupid. I much prefer my origin story for vampires. It gives a reason why vamps and sun don't mix.


message 35: by [deleted user] (new)

yeah


message 36: by Sofia (new)

Sofia (sofiakennedy) | 65 comments Kelsey wrote: "bella is a freak whiner and is very annoying she relys WAY to much on boys and is stupid "

I COMPLETELY agree.


message 37: by [deleted user] (new)

Sofia wrote: "Kelsey wrote: "bella is a freak whiner and is very annoying she relys WAY to much on boys and is stupid "

I COMPLETELY agree."


hehe lol ik


message 38: by Sofia (new)

Sofia (sofiakennedy) | 65 comments I just started season 3 of Angel. OH MY GOD!!!! Twilight totally copied it. It's like Stephanie Meyer can't get any ideas except from other books and stuff. She like pulled together a book from taking parts of Buffy, Angel, and a bunch of bad vampire books and mushing them together.


message 39: by [deleted user] (new)

hey i just started season three of angel

and i think stephany myers cant come up with ANYTHING on her own


message 40: by [deleted user] (new)

o yeah i guess i am on season 2...


message 41: by Rachel (new)

Rachel | 44 comments I've seen all Angel episodes, thanks to TNT showing re-runs in order and my DVR box!


message 42: by Rachel (new)

Rachel | 44 comments Sofia wrote: "I just started season 3 of Angel. OH MY GOD!!!! Twilight totally copied it. It's like Stephanie Meyer can't get any ideas except from other books and stuff. She like pulled together a book from tak..."

what parts of season 3? Its been awhile since I saw it


message 43: by [deleted user] (new)

look u can talk about angel on another page the angel page but somepeople havn't watched all of it or any of it and may want to


message 44: by Sofia (new)

Sofia (sofiakennedy) | 65 comments I'll just send you a message. Sorry, I didn't know you guys haven't finished Angel yet. I just assumed you did... I won't talk about season 3 =D Who's your fav character in Angel so far?



message 45: by Sofia (new)

Sofia (sofiakennedy) | 65 comments Hi Courtney!!!! I'm on Season 4 now. My sister has starting buying them so it's so much faster =D


message 46: by Sofia (new)

Sofia (sofiakennedy) | 65 comments =D Yeah. How do you get your... whatever you call them. Like do you buy them or Netflix or something?


message 47: by Sofia (new)

Sofia (sofiakennedy) | 65 comments We used Netflix, but then we realized it's cheaper to just buy them 'cause we kept the disks for so long, so now we just buy them =D We only own seasons 3 and 4 of Angel, but it's better than nothing. I watch Buffy on Hulu, or at least the 1st 3 seasons, but I really want to get those, too.


message 48: by [deleted user] (new)

lol yeah i like owning the box set because then we can watch one episode 10 times if we wanted




message 49: by [deleted user] (new)

2 days sometimes


message 50: by Sofia (new)

Sofia (sofiakennedy) | 65 comments Yeah, we used to, until our friend started watching them w/ us, so we had to keep them for her, too, so we ended up taking about 3 months to finish a season. Now we own them =D and we get to watch a gazillion episodes in a row =D

It used to take a month to finish a season, and Netflix is like 25$ a month so if we had just bought it on Amazon, it would've been cheaper... It's only around $15 for a new slim set. Plus you get to watch all the special features after you finish the season so it doesn't spoil stuff =D


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