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Johanna H. | 101 comments I just ordered the eye of the world so I can finally start with the Wheel of time series (I'm quite ashamed that I haven't read it yet)


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Johanna H. | 101 comments Lancer wrote: "I will have to try to retain what I remember. They aren't the longest books so when #3 comes out I am going to reread them.

I've actually been considering a reread of the name of the wind and w..."


Did you see when book 3 is going to be released?
2017.. oh the pain of having to wait for the next book in a great series. (George r.r Martin I'm looking at you too)


message 653: by Paul, A wanderer in unknown realms (new)

Paul | 3571 comments Mod
I still don't think GRRM will ever actually finish the whole series. Pesimistic but for every one book he writes he decides to add another two to the series. Never ending.


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Rinn (rinnsohma) | 3456 comments Mod
Johanna wrote: "I just ordered the eye of the world so I can finally start with the Wheel of time series (I'm quite ashamed that I haven't read it yet)"

Don't worry, I've only read the first book so far...


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Paul (halfmanhalfbook) | 441 comments Rinn wrote: "Don't worry, I've only read the first book so far..."


Which is one more than I have read Johanna!


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Johanna H. | 101 comments Paul wrote: "I still don't think GRRM will ever actually finish the whole series. Pesimistic but for every one book he writes he decides to add another two to the series. Never ending."

I agree.. He doesn't seem to have his whole heart in the series anymore.. But he's kind of forced to write on because of the amount of fans he has. I hoped that the story would progress in the last book but nothing really happened (Dany's still far away from westeros). Sometimes I have the feeling that George killed too many important characters to get the shocking factor and now doesnt know how to end everything. (Hope I'm wrong though.. But all my favorite characters died and I didn't like where Tyrions story is leading.. and John?) I hope for the next book to come out next year.. (what do you think will it come out 2016?) And it's sad that the tv series is finished with the books already. But what can I do? I still love the series :D


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Paul | 3571 comments Mod
I'll be first in line when the next book appears :-) I don't know how far it will progress things but the way he split stuff across book 4 and 5 really skewed things. I think he has to get the book out at some point next year or else the series will get way to far ahead. But I agree , I'm not sure his heart is in it now.


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Johanna H. | 101 comments Paul wrote: "I'll be first in line when the next book appears :-) I don't know how far it will progress things but the way he split stuff across book 4 and 5 really skewed things. I think he has to get the book..."

He's supposed to have canceled events, conventions and interviews because he's so busy writing. Sounds good.
http://www.ew.com/article/2015/04/03/...
Now I'm wondering what this big twist is going to be?
I hope he doesn't kill Tyrion.. A lot of people love him and as we now that's one reason more for George to finish him off :D


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Paul | 3571 comments Mod
I think Tyrions death would lose a lot of fans very quickly


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Johanna H. | 101 comments Paul wrote: "I think Tyrions death would lose a lot of fans very quickly"

Maybe that's his goal.. less people that bother him to finish the series :D


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Paul | 3571 comments Mod
Never thought of that. Now we know why he kills everyone.


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Roger | 2032 comments Mod
Paul wrote: "I still don't think GRRM will ever actually finish the whole series. Pesimistic but for every one book he writes he decides to add another two to the series. Never ending."

I gave up on him for partly this reason and partly because he doesn't seem to care that his fans want him to finish, in fact it seems more like the opposite that he wants to spite all the people that do want him to finish.


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Paul | 3571 comments Mod
He does seem to eager to taunt.


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Cupcakes & Machetes (hybridcreature) | 888 comments Mod
I have to be on GRRM's side. He has always taken a long time to complete the next book in the series. It's not anything new. (He began the series in 1996 and I believe it took him 6 years to complete A Dance with Dragons.) As much as I have been fiending for the next installment, I would rather he do it right instead of quickly. Of course, this means it may never get finished but it is what it is.

I have to add as well, if I was an author and the internet was telling me that I needed to finish my series because I was fat and old and would probably die soon, I wouldn't do those people any favors and hurry to finish.


message 665: by Paul, A wanderer in unknown realms (new)

Paul | 3571 comments Mod
He spends quite a bit of time making jokes about how long it takes him , while attending pretty much every convention, reading the entire Hugo nomination list, opening a cinema, writing other material for comics or screenplays etc.
He has every right to do these things his way but I do believe his heart has gone out of the series , maybe he's produced too much material or feel its swamped him. ( and in the past he has managed a 1 year and 2 year turn around between books so he can manage it)


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Roger | 2032 comments Mod
Paul wrote: "He spends quite a bit of time making jokes about how long it takes him , while attending pretty much every convention, reading the entire Hugo nomination list, opening a cinema, writing other mater..."

I don't really want to make a big deal out of this because honestly it's not my favorite series and I don't know that I'd read them if he put them out at a Sanderson pace, but as he does have every right to do these things then I have every right to dislike him for his lack of regard for his fans. For me it's a mediocre series that I'd probably get around to given enough time to read them, but his attitude towards his fans (and come on it can't be a surprise that he's not the healthiest looking guy in the world and writes at a snail's pace) makes me have zero interest in his works. There are plenty of authors out there that I can respect and enjoy their works, enough to keep me reading for the rest of my life, that I don't feel the need to read works from people I don't respect, i.e. GRRM, Larry Correia, Orscon Scott Card...)


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Tom | 216 comments Maybe he's taking so long hoping the tv screenwriters will do his job for him


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Lancer (elancer) | 1667 comments Mod
I gave up on ASOIAF about two thirds through A Feast For Crows. It just bothered me that instead of actually builsing plot he just killed people off. It's almost like crappy horror movies. Instead of actually making you scared they throw a shit load of jump scares in. I will finish watching the show if I want to see how it is resolved.


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Rinn (rinnsohma) | 3456 comments Mod
Do we need a ASOIAF thread? :P I feel like that would add some lively debate. I would move all these posts to a new thread if I could - but sadly GR's forum system is not very advanced...


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Cupcakes & Machetes (hybridcreature) | 888 comments Mod
Roger, you totally have a right not to like/respect him. I was just saying that it wasn't anything new with him being that way.
Yes, he has a lot more projects but I think being a successful author opens a lot more possibilities in your life. No, that does not mean you should shuck your responsibilities to the fans that helped put you were you are in life. Because if it wasn't for those people, you wouldn't be able to do all those fun things that you get to do now.
I have authors that I refuse to read too, for the exact same reasons. Ann Aguirre and Stephen King for example.


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Johanna H. | 101 comments I have the feeling that everytime he gets stuck, doesnt know how to proceed or feels the story get's too boring he kills someone off.. But it hinders the story developmemt and while it was at first shocking and new that no character was safe it became annoying because again the story was stuck. He is unbelievable slow but publishes a history of westeros. I get it it's cool but why doesn't he concentrate on the one book that everyone really wants to read? :D I hope the next book will be as good as the first 2


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Johanna H. | 101 comments Hybrid Creature (devours books instead of brains) wrote: "Roger, you totally have a right not to like/respect him. I was just saying that it wasn't anything new with him being that way.
Yes, he has a lot more projects but I think being a successful author..."


What is with Stephen king? Is he slow too? (I didnt read a lot from him yet)


message 673: by Rinn, (Retired mod) Captain of the SSV Normandy (new)

Rinn (rinnsohma) | 3456 comments Mod
Directing all GRRM/ASOIAF talk to this thread :P (thanks Paul!)


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Cupcakes & Machetes (hybridcreature) | 888 comments Mod
Rinn wrote: "Directing all GRRM/ASOIAF talk to this thread :P (thanks Paul!)"

Johanna, for me with Stephen King, it's a long story. He's one author I just really hate. I feel like he wipes his butt with 300+ pages and a lot of people call it gold. His older stuff is good, but I stopped reading anything by him after Bag of Bones.


message 675: by Lancer, Warden of the Slums (new)

Lancer (elancer) | 1667 comments Mod
I agree hybrid, with King I'll generally only read his older stuff. Reading the stand right now and so far it's quite good


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Jeff Davis (bonafidewb) | 75 comments I never finished this series.It all started tasting like the same cold soup to me haha.I suppose i will have to get back to it now that they are finished.That being said,the eye of the world is fantastic.I loved the first 4 books.Read to book 8.It started seeming like it would never end,and that is a problem I have with some of these authors.Wizards first rule,for example,by Terry Googkind,was also fantastic,and the subsequent 3 good also.But then the books kind of turn into "the further adventures of" instead of one coherent story.end of rant.


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Jeff Davis (bonafidewb) | 75 comments I will be fine with him taking as long as he wants to finish,as long as the rest are as good as the previous.I think This work is genius,although it is a tad early to say so.The ending and climax have yet to be written.I have been disappointed before,I read stephen kings gunslinger for 20 years,eagerly awaiting the next one.I was very excited when the final book came out.When I finally finished reading it ,i was so disgusted with the ending that i wished i hadnt read any of the books!Really pissed me off,and i have been a lukewarm fan of stephen king ever since.I hope that doesnt happen here,as song of ice and fire is one of my favorite fantasies up to this point.


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Andrew I enjoyed the journey of The Dark Tower, in particular books 2-4. The last one was pretty good, I felt less out-of-this-world CRAZY than the previous 2 books, but also sad. There's a slight spoiler here for the near-end of the series (view spoiler)

As for the rest of King's works, which I think is like 50-60 books, I've only read a handful and rather enjoyed them. I don't often pick up pure horror, which rules out a lot. There have been a number of his novels which just seemed kind of bleh on the topic, so I haven't bothered.

As for his recent books being bad--There are a number there I am not interested in. Mr Mercedes? Meh. Aside from Columbo, I prefer Who-dunnits to How-catchems.11/22/63 was fairly recent, and I felt really amazing. One of my favorites. Dreamcatcher is on the tail end of his "newer" books, and it doesn't get a lot of love, but I really enjoyed it and also the movie lol Not a masterpiece, but fun and suspenseful and different. I really liked Doctor Sleep--it gets a lot of hate for being so different in tone from The Shining, but it was supposed to be.

I am vaguely interested in checking out The Colorado Kid stories. The next book on my to-read list is coincidentally an older King, The Talisman.


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Jeff Davis (bonafidewb) | 75 comments I thought the talisman and its sequel Black House are excellent.The Stand is a must read by King also.I thought the ending of the gunslinger ruined the entire series.It was a cop out.A cheat.I was a great fan of the series until the end.


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Andrew Fair enough :) Do you think you will eventually give the upcoming live-action adaptation a chance? Who knows, they might change the ending! haha


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Jeff Davis (bonafidewb) | 75 comments I will probably watch it if they do it.But the ending is a dirty trick.ha.


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Paul (halfmanhalfbook) | 441 comments Coming back to the original idea of this thread, I bough six (yes six) books over the weekend:

A Spy by Nature
The Remains of the Day
Cold: Extreme Adventures at the Lowest Temperatures on Earth

And even though I have read these, I picked them up to pass on to others:

Station Eleven
Penguins Stopped Play
Real Fast Food


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Lancer (elancer) | 1667 comments Mod
I am actually currently reading the stand and @ 200 pages I am really enjoying it. Makes you weary of those who are sick.

There was a book sale at my university and I picked up Dune, Neuromancer, and Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep. The total for all three was 5$ Canadian so not bad :)


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Johanna H. | 101 comments Hybrid Creature (devours books instead of brains) wrote: "Rinn wrote: "Directing all GRRM/ASOIAF talk to this thread :P (thanks Paul!)"

Johanna, for me with Stephen King, it's a long story. He's one author I just really hate. I feel like he wipes his but..."


That's actually quite sad.. Since he has such a huge fanbase he probably thinks that he doesn't have to deliver the same quality as he did with his first books.. Fans are going to buy it anyway. Or he doesn't have good ideas anymore but is forced to bring out new books from his agency/for the money.
Which King book would you recommend to me as a starter?


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Johanna H. | 101 comments The movie about the clown was horrorfying :D my love for clowns will never be the same as before (i didn't love them before actually.. they were always horrorfying)


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Johanna H. | 101 comments Paul wrote: "Coming back to the original idea of this thread, I bough six (yes six) books over the weekend:

A Spy by Nature
The Remains of the Day
[book:Cold: Extreme Adventures at..."


Nothing feels better than buying a ton of books :)
I just bought The alloy of Law (Mistborn 4), Jane Boleyn true story of the infamous Lady rochford and Prince of Thorns by Mark Lawrence.


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Roger | 2032 comments Mod
Johanna wrote: "The movie about the clown was horrorfying :D my love for clowns will never be the same as before (i didn't love them before actually.. they were always horrorfying)"

I found the clown to be terrifying, I find the ending ruins the whole movie.


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Johanna H. | 101 comments Roger wrote: "Johanna wrote: "The movie about the clown was horrorfying :D my love for clowns will never be the same as before (i didn't love them before actually.. they were always horrorfying)"

I found the cl..."


I actually never saw the whole movies and still wait patiently for it to run on tv someday. But I'm pretty sure that this movie is responsible a lot of clown phobia :D which is the scariest King story for you?


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Jeff Davis (bonafidewb) | 75 comments Johanna wrote: "Hybrid Creature (devours books instead of brains) wrote: "Rinn wrote: "Directing all GRRM/ASOIAF talk to this thread :P (thanks Paul!)"

Johanna, for me with Stephen King, it's a long story. He's o..."

Stephen King did some fantastic writing.I would recommend the stand,the talisman,and black house.The Shining is the only book I have ever read that actually creeped me out.Far better than the movie.Misery is very good also.I cant imagine someone saying point blank that he is a crappy writer.I strongly disagree,although the end of the gunslinger series really pissed me off,and I havent read much of him since.Give Misery a try,It is quick anyway.The Stand is fantastic but is a lot to bite off.big book.


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Jeff Davis (bonafidewb) | 75 comments Johanna wrote: "Roger wrote: "Johanna wrote: "The movie about the clown was horrorfying :D my love for clowns will never be the same as before (i didn't love them before actually.. they were always horrorfying)"

..."

I have read most of kings work,and the shing remains the only book by any author that actually creeped me out.


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Andrew I agree with Jeff. For non-horror King, 11-22-63 was great. I really enjoyed the main, and longest, short story in Hearts in Atlantis.

I've yet to read The Green Mile, or the stories that Shawshank Redemption and Stand By Me were based on. I have a real problem where if I see a movie of something first, I never read the book, even if I LOVED the movie LOL Meanwhile, if I read the book first, 95% of the time I think the book was better haha


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Tom | 216 comments Andrew I have that same problem, that's the reason why I've never read Lord of the rings.
tried reading the first one got about half way through then just skipped to the bromine bit at the end


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Tom | 216 comments boromir not bromine


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Andrew For a second I thought you had a very scientific version of LOTR ;)

I agree. And it's weird because I will gladly read a book I love multiple times, even if I later see the movie. But see the movie first? *shrug* I dunno what it is lol


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Johanna H. | 101 comments Jeff wrote: "Johanna wrote: "Hybrid Creature (devours books instead of brains) wrote: "Rinn wrote: "Directing all GRRM/ASOIAF talk to this thread :P (thanks Paul!)"

Johanna, for me with Stephen King, it's a lo..."


Thanks Jeff I will put them on my to read list and start with the shining! (I hope I'm going to be creeped out)


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Johanna H. | 101 comments Tom wrote: "Andrew I have that same problem, that's the reason why I've never read Lord of the rings.
tried reading the first one got about half way through then just skipped to the bromine bit at the end"


I didn't read the Lord of the rings yet too .. I always thought I was the only one and felt alone in this big world full of lotr fans :D


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Johanna H. | 101 comments Its true that if you read a book first, then watch the movie the book will be better 9/10 times.
If you watch it first you see the movie without any expectations, you don't mind missing characters and don't wait for events that you liked in the book but weren't important enough for the movie. You don't expect a character to look a certain way too.
You just enjoy the movie. And the other way around it's the same.. You think you know what's going to happen and then it's all very different.


message 698: by Roger, Knight Radiant (new)

Roger | 2032 comments Mod
Johanna wrote: "Its true that if you read a book first, then watch the movie the book will be better 9/10 times.
If you watch it first you see the movie without any expectations, you don't mind missing characters ..."


The LOTR was an exception for me, I liked the movie a lot more than the books. The books just get bogged down in details about how things look and it bores me. And I did read the books before I watched the movies.


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Lancer (elancer) | 1667 comments Mod
I also prefer the movies, but that didn't take away from my enjoyment of the books. They are both strong In there own aspects.

I think a lot of it is that I have such a strong request for the books and Tolkien and what they mean to the fantasy genre


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Johanna H. | 101 comments Lancer wrote: "I also prefer the movies, but that didn't take away from my enjoyment of the books. They are both strong In there own aspects.

I think a lot of it is that I have such a strong request for the b..."


True. There are probably a lot books out there today that are much better but Lotr was the first real fantasy book & started the whole genre. For a lot of people & authors it was the book that started their love for fantasy too.
I really want to read them at least once but i tried once and couldn't get warm with them. But i will try again :)


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