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The beauty of Jotoh for authors is that when you relax and the computer reads your work back to you, you can easily see where improvements are needed.
When my editor could not have the time to help, Jutoh TTS took over. I was able to use it to read the 8 Volumes of my series to myself while I keep improving them. Simply get a trial copy from Jutoh.com. If you need further help, you can contact me on saddeh@deprovent,com


I noticed, too, that when I'm scribbling in a notebook, the ideas come more easily and I'm not as obsessed with the exact words (which tend to go through several revisions anyway). I don't know if I'd have the patience, long-term, to write the entire first draft in long-hand, but I found it helped when I printed out the draft, at different stages, and made edits in the margins. Sometimes I'd fill whole new pages. I may not have used everything in the revisions but I found the approach really helped switch me to "editor" mode.
One thing I haven't seen mentioned here that I think would help new authors is that when I first started to establish my "author voice", I was so afraid I'd lose it that I stopped reading other people's work. I'm a slow writer, so that meant going for a long time without doing the thing I loved: reading. For one thing, it made me miserable. For another, I was tying myself up in knots trying to stay within these boundaries I'd created, and that showed in my writing. The minute I broke my rule and started reading again, it was not only liberating, but it helped improve my confidence in my own work.
Anita

Thanks for sharing, Sue

Funny you should use that word, Sue: "stilted" was exactly how I felt my own writing was feeling until I pushed the computer away.

sorry, just seeing this. thank you

I still remember when I had to type everything on paper, and if you did revisions you usually had to retype the whole chapter. I'm happy now to use a computer for my drafts all the way up to the finished product, and I haven't used a single sheet of typing paper since.

LOL! That's how I wrote short stories. Yup, I remember correction ribbons on typewriters. White-out didn't work.
Oh, my Dad lives in GA, somewhere near Bloomfield? What do you call a male peach? : )
Sue (Dog Mom) wrote: "Hi Ken,
LOL! That's how I wrote short stories. Yup, I remember correction ribbons on typewriters. White-out didn't work.
Oh, my Dad lives in GA, somewhere near Bloomfield? What do you call a male p..."
You could get typewriter ribbons that had corrective strips on them and they worked pretty well.
I don't know about male peaches; I always hated that Georgia was called the Peach State and they named everything Peach-this and Peach-that. You can get lost in Atlanta on Peachtree Street. I always thought there were more pecans here than peaches anyway. I love pecans.
LOL! That's how I wrote short stories. Yup, I remember correction ribbons on typewriters. White-out didn't work.
Oh, my Dad lives in GA, somewhere near Bloomfield? What do you call a male p..."
You could get typewriter ribbons that had corrective strips on them and they worked pretty well.
I don't know about male peaches; I always hated that Georgia was called the Peach State and they named everything Peach-this and Peach-that. You can get lost in Atlanta on Peachtree Street. I always thought there were more pecans here than peaches anyway. I love pecans.

Huh, I never saw that. I only saw the ribbon that had one black strip and the other red.
I love Pecan pie. I'll have to call my Dad a pecan and ask him to send me some. : )

Great sharing information. Thank you. I think better typing, but in the beginning stages of my book, I have it brewing in my mind all the time and write all of my thoughts and facts on paper and stash them away, but read them over each day. But the time I'm ready to type, I probably have about five to seven chapters. So scribbling on paper helps me as well.


I do have a notebook though, where I jot down odd thoughts and ideas, such as names of characters and locations or themes I want to bring in.
Sue (Dog Mom) wrote: "Hi Ken,
Huh, I never saw that. I only saw the ribbon that had one black strip and the other red."
It was an option on just one type of ribbon, called carbon film I believe. Something like that. You shifted to it as you did with the red/black ribbon, typed over the error, and it would literally lift the ink off the paper. They were a little more expensive, though, as I recall. Carbon film was a one-time use ribbon. The ink didn't fade with use, as with a regular ribbon, it disappeared, leaving a gap in the inked part of the ribbon in the shape of the letter typed.
Ah, yes, here it is: http://www.ldproducts.com/brother-brt...
Huh, I never saw that. I only saw the ribbon that had one black strip and the other red."
It was an option on just one type of ribbon, called carbon film I believe. Something like that. You shifted to it as you did with the red/black ribbon, typed over the error, and it would literally lift the ink off the paper. They were a little more expensive, though, as I recall. Carbon film was a one-time use ribbon. The ink didn't fade with use, as with a regular ribbon, it disappeared, leaving a gap in the inked part of the ribbon in the shape of the letter typed.
Ah, yes, here it is: http://www.ldproducts.com/brother-brt...

Huh, I never saw that. I only saw the ribbon that had one black strip and the other red."
It was an option on just one type of ribbon, called carbon film I believe. S..."
My dad got me that kind of typewriter when I first showed an interest in writing. Best gift I ever got. :)
I don't know if you'd consider it a "technique" as such, but one piece of advice I'd give new authors, besides applying your backside to a seat every day and forcing yourself to write, is to not lock yourself away for the duration. Build relationships with other writers and stay in touch with people you know in the field. Because once your book is done, your family and friends may pat you on the back but they won't know the first thing about writing an agent query or whether your synopsis is hitting all the right notes for your audience. Don't just read forums (as many I'm sure are doing now) —-take part, maybe find a writing pal, and bounce ideas off each other. I know it's hard. If you're a solitary person by nature, like me, you won't want to do it. But trust me, it's a lot less frustrating in the long run to start taking baby steps now.

Keep your day job.
Grow a leather skin. (resistant to criticism)

As far as saving progress, I also save new, date-titled versions each time I make significant edits to a document. I keep the old versions in an "Old Edits" folder within my master project folder.
It's great to read some of the tips and workflow suggestions folks have posted here. Thanks for sharing!

Natalie Goldberg claims in "Writing down the Bones" that actual hand-on-paper-contact improves creativity and frees up the writer.
My handwriting is illegible even to me so I have to print and that is so slow that I use the keyboard. I believe that the speed with which I type lets out the words and once the words are down on the page/screen, I can deal with them.

Natalie Goldberg claims in "Writing down the Bones" that actual hand-on-paper-contact improves creativity and frees up the writer.
My handwriting is..."
I think there's some truth in "no pain, no gain". We went from handwriting to big, clunky typewriters, to word processors, to chunky computer keyboards, to the streamlined keyboards most of us use today. I remember a writer friend of mine saying to me, "How do you write on that Mac? The keyboard gives you no feedback at all."

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Ken & Anita, We must be close in age because that's the same path I took to putting words on paper. However, I'm always one step behind in technology. I was the last person I know to own a microwave oven. : )
Sue (Dog Mom) wrote: "David Allen, Are you sure you weren't meant to be a doctor with that handwriting?
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Ken & Anita, We must be close in age because that's the same path I took to putting words on paper. However, ..."
Hah! I remember a time before 8-tracks and VCRs, a time even before stereo. Vaguely remember a time before viable commercial TV.
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Ken & Anita, We must be close in age because that's the same path I took to putting words on paper. However, ..."
Hah! I remember a time before 8-tracks and VCRs, a time even before stereo. Vaguely remember a time before viable commercial TV.


I found that out years ago mentioning them to my niece. She had no clue. Ouch!
Not just 45s, but scratchy old 78s.

Twenty years ago I bought a mini tape recorder so I could dictate my book while driving, as it's not good to be blowing down the highway while scribbling on a notepad. I didn't use it as much as I thought I would. I feel more creative with a pen in my hand.

It is extremely important to get these timeline facts straight because this is the kind of stuff readers knit-pick later. It might also cause problems for you later if you write sequels.
ALSO, THIS TOOL WAS A GODSEND.
https://www.timeanddate.com/date/dura...
You know those moments where you want to know the exact timeframe between several events? That tool is the solution to all your problems. It also includes useful calculation tools, world clocks, travel times, holidays etc.
Am I allowed to post links? I'm not sure. But I wanted to share that because I just made use of it and it saved me a lot of time and effort.
As long as it isn't a book, or you don't own it trying to self promote, you are good Melissa. #SupportIndieAuthors!


This & the fact that book two follows on from where the last one left off means I have to be spot on with dates etc.


I think that getting detail correct is an intrinsic part of the process. I generalise about weather conditions but anyone looking up details of events will find them correct - as are all procedures/weapons even unarmed combat moves.


On whatever book I am working on, I save today's changes under ..."
I never thought of doing this! I lost a manuscript that I was 56,000 words in last year when my hard drive crashed. I naively thought I could recover it. This definitely seems like a great idea.


I found that out years ago mentioning them to my..."
Sue, I just found out recently that we had no television when I was born--only a radio!!! Didn't think I was that old. lol
Gippy wrote: "Sue, I just found out recently that we had no television when I was born--only a radio!!! Didn't think I was that old. lol ..."
TV was actually available by 1935, and it was on display at the 1939 World's Fair. WWII put a hold on it (TV manufacturers produced radar screens for the military), and then became commercially viable as we know it today by about 1948. We got a TV at about that time, when I was 2 or 3 years old.
TV was actually available by 1935, and it was on display at the 1939 World's Fair. WWII put a hold on it (TV manufacturers produced radar screens for the military), and then became commercially viable as we know it today by about 1948. We got a TV at about that time, when I was 2 or 3 years old.

One of the many reasons why I love scrivener - it auto-saves every time you stop typing. Literally every time you stop for a second or two. And I keep my file in a dropbox so I can't ever lose it because OMG that would be so heartbreaking.

Like ideas and info on world creation. I have two separate worlds that ..."
Try Scrivener. You can nest multiple files, add, subtract and rearrange to your heart's content. I use it to hold research along with ideas and other things. I just make a new project and add to it as I need to. I don't write in it as I found that when I collated it, it was a mess. (I need to learn how to do that easily) What I have discovered is that it is really good for organizing my files for writing.

All the tips here have been very helpful...and I've learned the hardway the importance of backups. I save to a hard drive, my computer, the cloud, I email a copy to all my counts.

On whatever book I am working on, I save today's..."
Sorry to hear about your hard drive crash! I use thumb drives for backup, usually. Did you ever try hooking up an adapter and trying to copy the files from the old hard drive that way? I hope you can recover the files, eventually. There are also people who will do data recovery in situations like this, if it's worth it to you.
Jonnathan wrote: A book whack and "Morris, I am writing a book that jumps back and forth between time periods and characters. I was getting myself confused and lost so I reorganized the chapters according to character however the flow of the story line seems to have lost the emotional flavor; it seems more clinical. What have you found to be an effective way to change time periods and characters without losing the reader's ability to keep up with the chronological order and the place the character is occupying?
In the above book link I used 7 parts to divide the book up into different time periods however I don't think this will work for the book in question."
I understand you want to talk about your book, but you have to find and post in the appropriate places. Bookwhack deleted
In the above book link I used 7 parts to divide the book up into different time periods however I don't think this will work for the book in question."
I understand you want to talk about your book, but you have to find and post in the appropriate places. Bookwhack deleted
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