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Martin, George R.R: A Game of Thrones (buddy read revisit) Start Date: December 2, 2013 [A Song of Ice & Fire #1] - revisit Sep 12th, 2015 - revisit May 2017 **REVISIT** June 2018
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Which Reading Schedule to you want posted at the beginning? This one:
Reading Schedule:
OR THIS ONE?
Here are the chapter divisions so you can all stay in sync:
Reading Schedule:
Date Chapters
December 2 Prologue - 7 (Arya)
December 5 8 (Bran) - 15 (Sansa)
December 8 16 (Eddard) - 23 (Daenerys)
December 11 24 (Bran) - 31 (Tyrion)
December 14 32 (Arya) - 39 (Eddard)
December 17 40 (Catelyn) - 47(Eddard)
December 20 48 (Jon) - 55 (Catelyn)
December 23 56 (Tyrion) - 63 (Catelyn)
December 26 64 (Daenerys) - 72 (Danerys)
OR THIS ONE?
Here are the chapter divisions so you can all stay in sync:
Prologue - pages 1 - 11
Chapter 1 - Bran - pages 13 - 21
Chapter 2 - Catelyn - pages 22 - 27
Chapter 3 - Daenerys - pages 28 - 38
Chapter 4 - Eddard - pages 39 - 48
Chapter 5 - Jon - pages 49 - 57
Chapter 6 - Catelyn - pages 58 - 67
Chapter 7 - Arya - Pages 68 - 75
Chapter 8 - Bran - pages 76 - 85
Chapter 9 - Tyrion - pages 86 - 92
Chapter 10 - Jon - pages 93 - 98
Chapter 11 - Daenerys - pages 99 - 108
Chapter 12 - Eddard - pages 109 - 117
Chapter 13 - Tyrion - pages 118 - 127
Chapter 14 - Catelyn - pages 128 - 138
Chapter 15 - Sansa - pages 139 - 152
Chapter 16 - Eddard - pages 153 - 159
Chapter 17 - Bran - Pages 160 - 164
Chapter 18 - Catelyn - pages 165 - 175
Chapter 19 - Jon - pages 176 - 189
Chapter 20 - Eddard - pages 190 - 202
Chapter 21 - Tyrion - pages 203 - 214
Chapter 22 - Arya - pages 215 - 225
Chapter 23 - Daenrys - pages 226 - 236
Chapter 24 - Bran - pages 237 - 249
Chapter 25 - Eddard - pages 250 - 258
Chapter 26 - Jon - pages 259 - 271
Chapter 27 - Eddard - Pages 272 - 282
Chapter 28 - Catelyn - pages 283 - 292
Chapter 29 - Sansa - pages 293 - 304
Chapter 30 - Eddard - pages 305 - 323
Chapter 31 - Tyrion - pages 324 - 337
Chapter 32 - Arya - pages 338 - 350
Chapter 33 - Eddard - pages 351 - 358
Chapter 34 - Catelyn - pages 359 - 377
Chapter 35 - Eddard - pages 378 - 384
Chapter 36 - Daenerys - pages 385 - 395
Chapter 37 - Bran - Pages 396 - 409
Chapter 38 - Tyrion - pages 410 - 423
Chapter 39 - Eddard - pages 424 - 430
Chapter 40 - Caetlyn - pages 431 - 443
Chapter 41 - Jon - pages 444 - 451
Chapter 42 - Tyrion - pages 452 - 461
Chapter 43 - Eddard - pages 462 - 471
Chapter 44 - Sansa - pages 472 - 479
Chapter 45 - Eddard - pages 480 - 488
Chapter 46 - Daenerys - pages 489 - 500
Chapter 47 - Eddard - Pages 501 - 514
Chapter 48 - jon - pages 515 - 522
Chapter 49 - Eddard - pages 523 - 529
Chapter 50 - Arya - pages 530 - 541
Chapter 51 - Sansa - pages 542 - 551
Chapter 52 - Jon - pages 552 - 567
Chapter 53 - Bran - pages 368 - 582
Chapter 54 - Daenerys - pages 583 - 594
Chapter 55 - Catelyn - pages 595 - 606
Chapter 56 - Tyrion - pages 607 - 617
Chapter 57 - Sansa - Pages 618 - 627
Chapter 58 - Eddard - pages 628 - 637
Chapter 59 - Catelyn - pages 638 - 651
Chapter 60 - Jon - pages 652 - 664
Chapter 61 - Daenerys - pages 665 - 674
Chapter 62 - Tyrion - pages 675 - 693
Chapter 63 - Catelyn - pages 694 - 701
Chapter 64 - Daenerys - pages 702 - 715
Chapter 65 - Ayra - pages 716 - 728
Chapter 66 - Bran - pages 729 - 740
Chapter 67 - Sansa - Pages 741 - 750
Chapter 68 - Daenerys - pages 751 - 761
Chapter 69 - Tyrion - pages 762 - 771
Chapter 70 - Jon - pages 772 - 784
Chapter 71 - Catelyn - pages 785 - 797
Chapter 72 - Daenerys - pages 798 - 807
Date Chapters Question/Comment Person
Dec. 2 - Prologue - Chapter 3 - Shay
Dec. 3 - Chapter 4 - Chapter 7 - Lisarenee
Dec. 4 - Chapter 8 - Chapter 11 - Lisa Kay
Dec. 5 - Chapter 12 - Chapter 15 - Sarah
Dec. 6 - Chapter 16 - Chapter 19 - Lisarenee
Dec. 7 - Chapter 20 - Chapter 23 - Vi
Dec. 8 - BREAK DAY
Dec. 9 - Chapter 24 - Chapter 27 - Lisa Kay
Dec. 10 - Chapter 28 - Chapter 31 - Lisarenee
Dec. 11 - Chapter 32 - Chapter 35 - Lisarenee
Dec. 12 - Chapter 36 - Chapter 39 - Vi
Dec. 13 - Chapter 40 - Chapter 43 - Lisarenee
Dec. 14 - Chapter 44 - Chapter 47 - Lisa Kay
Dec. 15 - BREAK DAY
Dec. 16 - Chapter 48 - Chapter 51 - Lisa Kay
Dec. 17 - Chapter 52 - Chapter 55 - Lisarenee
Dec. 18 - Chapter 56 - Chapter 59 - Lisarenee
Dec. 19 - Chapter 60 - Chapter 63 - Lisa Kay
Dec. 20 - Chapter 64 - Chapter 67 - Lisarenee
Dec. 21 - Chapter 68 - Chapter 72 - Lisarenee

Date Chapters
December 2 Prologue - 7 (Arya)
December 5 8 (Bran) - 15 (Tyrion)
December 8 16 (Eddard) - 23 (Daenerys)
December 11 24 (Bran) - 31 (Tyrion)
December 14 32 (Arya) - 39 (Eddard)
December 17 40 (Catelyn) - 47(Eddard)
December 20 48 (Jon) - 55 (Catelyn)
December 23 56 (Tyrion) - 63 (Catelyn)
December 26 64 (Daenerys) - 72 (Danerys)
with the Chapter Divisions reference list, so we can reference it easily and not have to hunt it down. :)
Vicky wrote: "with the Chapter Divisions reference list, so we can reference it easily and not have to hunt it down. :)"
Done!
Done!

Are there questions we should be referring to?

Prologue through Chapter 3(Daenerys)
1. Many fantasy stories have a "medieval" feel. They incorporate elements that seem or are very fitting to the medieval time period. Why do you think authors do this?
Alot of fantasy is set in the past where you see less technology and magic to compensate as compared to Science fiction, which is often set in the future with more technological advances.
2. Tolkien was asked many times how WWII affected his writing of The Lord of the Rings. Was it allegorical? Tolkien always insisted that it wasn't. That being said, does Martin "mean" anything by setting the North vs. the South? Those things obviously "mean" something to us- the Civil War, North and South Korea, Vikings, etc.
I don't think this is really about north vs south. There seems to be a magical threat from north of the wall. There has also been mentioned previous wars that were invasions from across the water, east vs west, north vs south and all the little petty ones between neighbours.
3. For some reason, many epics start with an execution (or perhaps a death/murder). What is the author's purpose in doing that?
With a book this thick, you need something exciting up front to get you interested. It also shows the way of life for the Starks and drew comparisons to how other houses handle execution.
4. Does the direwolf, and her pups, appearance foreshadow anything? What do you make of the pups numbering the exact amount of Stark children?
The direwolf mother was found dead with a stag antler driven into her throat. Catelin seemed disturbed by this and worried it was a bad omen - her husbands sigil is the direwolf and the kings is the stag. The wolf pups seem destined to be for the Stark children, especially since there was an extra one for Jon ( an albino that usually gets rejected from the litter for the bastard who is usually rejected from the trueborn family) - Lots of symbolism in this scene.
5. The orphan is a powerful literary symbol. Especially historically where one's birth determined career, marriage, etc. Orphans are free to, sort of, create their own destiny. What, if anything, will Dany (Daenerys) choose to do to break with her "destiny"?
Dany doesn't seem to have much power to do anything at this point. She is being sold by her brother to help him achieve what he thinks his destiny should be.


@Kimberly I have the same problems as you are. I've watched the first few episodes of the show and they all are so much younger in the book.
This first section is a bit slow and feels more like setting the scene. As I'm reading the Dutch translation, it's a fast read so far and I'm not having to much trouble getting into the story. I do hope there is going to be more action. Will continue Thursday with the second section.
Prologue through Chapter 3(Daenerys)
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Questions for Chapters 4(Eddard) - 7(Arya)
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Sorry, Steven, I have my book packed away in the garage. I just copied what the Mods put down. Someone will have to verify.


I'm listening to the Audio and am surprised by the actual spelling of the names.
My favourite characters so far are Jon Snow and Arya.
Steven wrote: "I just wanted to point out that the reading schedule has through chapter 15 (Tyrion) for December 5th, but chapter 13 is Tyrion and chapter 15 is Sansa! :P"
Changed.
Changed.

Bran(8) – Daenerys(11)
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I am so glad they made her older in the show.

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Lisarenee's Questions for Chapters 4(Eddard) - 7(Arya)
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Then there's the fact that so many people make light of, or completely ignore, the threat posed by the White Walkers. This is one of those things that makes me want to throttle certain characters. If the threat isn't immediately visible, these characters do tend to dismiss it.

Love the books and the TV series.
(I wonder how it would be to just now start the books, knowing about the events that will happen later thanks to HBO.)
And, yes, the age differences are hard to get used to (especially Dani)!

Prologue through Chapter 3(Daenerys)
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Bran(8) – Daenerys(11)
1) Before you found out what happened, were you apprehensive about Bran climbing ..."
Steven -
I'm not reading your spoilers yet but I too am eager to forge ahead. : )
I'm making myself read multiple books so I can stay on schedule.
That being said, It's the 5th here in Australia so I'm reading the next installment. : )
It's definitely intriguing and a much faster read than I anticipated.

I think I'm the only one who thought it was a bit slow off the ground. I think I just needed to get used to the writing. I'm well into it now. : )

Nope, you weren't the only one who thought so. :-)
Also, you had mentioned needing a map to keep track of the characters and you're right! There is a great site, westeros.org, that lists all the characters, BUT if you go there you are in great danger of being spoiled if you're unfamiliar with the story.

It's actually really funny too. : )

It's actually really funny too. : )"
Ah! I hadn't seen that. It is very funny!

It's a great SoIaF reference site with a "scope" feature (look for a brown bar under the feature story on the main page) where you can tell the site how many books you have read and it will automatically hide spoilers. If you have it set to "no books read" (so you don't spoil the first) you can still browse characters and it only gives you the most basic description of them.
As long as you don't click on chapter summaries that you haven't read (or change your scope) it is very easy to avoid spoilers.


It's a great SoIaF reference site with a "scope" feature (look for a brown bar under the featur..."
That's GREAT! Thank you Vicky. : )

1. We now know what was so significant about how the direwolf was killed. The fact the antler was the means of death suggests the King, whose symbol is an antler, must somehow cause the death of Eddard (aka Ned) leaving his children orphans. The question is should this be seen as a warning as to what could happen or a prophecy of what is to come? What do you think? Knowing what could happen can the outcome be changed?
That is the question, do we have free choice or is our destiny already set.
2. Knowing how close the King and Ned were do you think Catelyn was right to encourage her husband to become the King's Hand?
Not many Kings would take no for an answer anyway. The Kings hand is a very high powered position, so politically a good move for Eddard. A step toward joining their houses by marriage which would provide Catelyn's children with a good future.
3. Do you think Jon Snow's jealousy of his siblings tureborn siblings will cause trouble in the future?
He was brought up with his trueborn siblings, which is more privilege than most bastards would have had. He doesn't seem jealous of his siblings, just knows that they are not equal and that Catelyn hates him.
4. Were you surprised that Catelyn would ask that Jon either go with her husband or become one of the brother's of the Night's Watch?
I didn't think she would be so cold about it, but I can see where she is coming from. Jon isn't her son and she doesn't want him in competition with her children.
5. Wall are usually put up for a reason. Any ideas as to why the Wall was put up thousands of years ago? Do you suspect it had something to do with the Others? What do you the the Others are?
Walls are built to keep something in or to keep something out. The night watch seem to be using the wall to keep out raiders, but the wall was built a long time ago, so maybe the real reason has been forgotton.
6. What do you think of Tyrion's advice to Jon? "Never forget what you are, for surely the world will not. Make it your strength. Then it can never be your weakness. Armor yourself in it, and it will never be used to hurt you."
I really like this. A great anti bullying strategy.
7. What character(s) do you find the most interesting so far?
Dany, she is so different to all the other characters and I'm curious to see how her character somes together with te rest.
8. Thoughts on why the Lannisters would want to get rid of Jon Arryn and then foster his son?
Getting rid of one threat and taking control of another. Eddard fostered a boy who was also classified as a hostage.
9. Sounds like Rhaegor did something to Ned's sister. Any thoughts on what that was?
Maybe he loved her too


But now I want to read it all over again from book 1.
Thanks you guys :)

I don't usually. So long as you're labeling your post with the chapters your talking about (like you did), I think that's enough warning for people to skip your post if they haven't read that far.

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Lisarenee's Questions for Chapters 4(Eddard) - 7(Arya)
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oops, I got a bit carried away and ahead of the schedule.
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