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message 1: by LegalKimchi (new)

LegalKimchi | 112 comments who is the most evil character you've encountered in a book?
Just a vile, destructive force of a character. Possibly even shockingly evil. ever had a moment when a character just appalled you with his or her actions?


message 2: by Kamil (last edited Aug 29, 2013 07:32AM) (new)

Kamil | 372 comments Khali from Beyond the Shadows, and it's all over, we can go home since we'll never find someone worst. She makes joffrey look like a teacher's pet boyscout


message 3: by Paul (new)

Paul Harmon (thesaint08d) | 639 comments I did a very similar topic not long ago based on my hatred of Joffrey from A Song of Ice and Fire.


message 4: by Mpauli (new)

Mpauli Tanal Yathvanar from Reaper's Gale

(view spoiler)


message 5: by Phil (last edited Aug 29, 2013 08:00AM) (new)

Phil | 1152 comments Willi Borden (and the other psychics) in Carrion Comfort by Dan Simmons.
On a slightly less murderous note, Professor Umbridge from Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix.


message 6: by Kamil (new)

Kamil | 372 comments Mpauli wrote: "Tanal Yathvanar from Reaper's Gale

[spoilers removed]"


Khali is by far more cruel... (view spoiler)


message 7: by Bryan (new)

Bryan | 111 comments Hmmm...I find "evil" to be a pretty tough sell, but maybe Dread from Tad Williams' Otherland series? He's as close to evil as any character can realistically get.


message 8: by Andreas (new)

Andreas That would be Morgoth Bauglir from The Silmarillion, most powerful of the Ainur, weaving his evilness into Arda - the cause why the Elves have to leave Middle Earth. Pride, Wrath, Greed, Envy is what this main antagonist stands for.


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Lonnie Smith (readwithmybrain) | 47 comments The Nothing from the Neverending Story?

Moriarty from Sherlock Homes?

The Whale from Moby Dick?

I think I am just listing my favorites now.

a discussion should start about what would be more evil.

1. The Anarchist/Entropist "I just want to see the world burn"

2. The Systematic but Misguided Leader (think Hitler)

3. The Selfish Prig (everyone else is a stepping stone)


message 10: by terpkristin (new)

terpkristin | 4185 comments Paul wrote: "I did a very similar topic not long ago based on my hatred of Joffrey from A Song of Ice and Fire."

I remember that topic. Though I still think Cersei is more evil. And Tywinn. Joffrey is a product of Cersei. You have to wonder if Robert had married Lyanna, would his progeny have been as terrible? And it's not as though the other 2 Baratheon children were horrible. But wow...Cersei.


message 11: by Dara (new)

Dara (cmdrdara) | 2702 comments I'm almost done with Royal Assassin and Regal is one of the most vile characters I've ever encountered.


message 12: by terpkristin (new)

terpkristin | 4185 comments Dara wrote: "I'm almost done with Royal Assassin and Regal is one of the most vile characters I've ever encountered."

Oooh good call. I'd forgotten about him, having read that series a few years ago. I should go back to that world with the other trilogies. :)


message 13: by Paul (new)

Paul Harmon (thesaint08d) | 639 comments Andreas wrote: "
Moriarty from Sherlock Homes?

The Whale from Moby Dick?"


I never thought of Moriarty as Evil the same was I see cruel fantasy monarchs as evil. Moriarty was a criminal genius but not Evil just bad.

The White Whale...non-anthropomorphic animals can't be Evil silly head...he's just a whale doing his whale thing defending himself from a psychotic obsessive weirdo :)


message 14: by Ayesha (new)

Ayesha (craniumrinse) Lonnie wrote: "The Whale from Moby Dick?"

See, I always sympathized with the whale. Here he is just swimming along eating krill or whatever and some a-holes start poking it with harpoons. I'd bash into their ship until it sank, too.

I always thought Ahab was the villain in Moby Dick.

@Dara: Yes. He's awful in every way imaginable. I don't know if you've read the Liveship Trilogy, but I despised Malta (who shares a lot of Regal's awful qualities) (view spoiler)


message 15: by Dharmakirti (last edited Aug 31, 2013 05:10AM) (new)

Dharmakirti | 942 comments I'm going to go with Neil Cassidy from R. Scott Bakker's near future sci-fi/thriller novel Neuropath.

Neil used to be employed by the NSA were he came up with a method of interrogating terrorists that involved, well, here is how the author describes it in the novel:
It started "small-fry," as Neil put it: a pilot project with sensory deprivation interrogation techniques. The powers that be gave his research group a theoterrorist they thought could be key to unlocking several American-Muslim cells. Apparently they interviewed him via a sham fellow inmate, discovered what he thought his execution would look like, and more important, what he thought paradise would like. Then they arranged his execution...
But instead of killing him they simply put him under - deep under. Then they transferred him to a specially prepared sensory deprivation tank, pumped him full of MDMA variants and opiates, gave his body some time to acclimatize...
Then woke him up.
No sound. No light, smell, touch. Sealed in his skull and higher than a fucking kite. Apparently the subject tried screaming, thrashing, and all that - a brain in sensory limbo, Neil said, automatically attempts to generate feedback stimuli - but they'd induced motor paralysis to better prevent him from sensing himself. Besides, he had no choice but to feel good with the mickey they'd slipped him. When the MRI showed them his visual centers spontaneously lighting up, then introduced him to "God," this ultraslick intelligence specialist from Bahrain. To hear Neil describe it, the man literally thought he'd died and gone to heaven.
"Let me tell you," his buddy said with a gallows grin, "when God's asking the questions, people answer.

Neil leaves his job at the NSA and goes into business for himself. He starts abducting people and performing neurosurgery on them to prove his argument that free will is only an illusion. One of his first experiments was to "destroy" one man's ability to recognize faces so that when he see's his wife he doesn't recognize her and thinks this woman is some stranger trying to impersonate his wife. Other experiments are much more disturbing (really disturbing), like some of the stuff he does with a porn star he abducts.


message 16: by Dara (new)

Dara (cmdrdara) | 2702 comments terpkristin wrote: "Oooh good call. I'd forgotten about him, having read that series a few years ago. I should go back to that world with the other trilogies. :) ."

I think I hate him more with every page.


message 17: by Kristina (new)

Kristina | 588 comments The baddies in The Pillars of the Earth. They don't behead people or blast them with dark magic. They are really just your typical A-holes out for personal gain at any cost. But after watching them screw with the good guys for almost 1000 pages-it is sooo satisfying when karma catches up.


message 18: by Dharmakirti (last edited Aug 30, 2013 11:59AM) (new)

Dharmakirti | 942 comments terpkristin wrote: "Paul wrote: "I did a very similar topic not long ago based on my hatred of Joffrey from A Song of Ice and Fire."

I remember that topic. Though I still think Cersei is more evil. And Tywinn. Joffre..."


She's definately got issues, but I find myself kinda liking Cersei and I think she's a saint compared to Joffrey.


message 19: by Scott (new)

Scott (dodger1379) | 126 comments I'm going to go old school and say the White Witch (Queen Jadis). In the Magician's Nephew she recounts how she killed everybody in her entire world rather than be defeated by her sister. And then she killed Aslan in the next book.


message 20: by Lisa (new)

Lisa (teenymayhem) | 3 comments Only person I can think of at the moment since I just finished the book is Amy Dunne of Gone Girl. I was beside myself with rage towards her. Joffrey is pretty bad but this girl really seemed to surpass his vindictiveness.


message 21: by Karen (new)

Karen Azinger | 10 comments Hannibal Lecter from Silence of the Lambs, or maybe I can't separate the movie from the book. Anthony Hopkin's brilliant portrayal of Lector sets him apart from most evil book characters. Civilized intellect without civilized morality is totally spine chilling, especially with his rapier intellect and gruesome intent. I also think Phil's suggestion of Professor Umbridge from Harry Potter is a very interesting choice, the type of evil who believes they are doing good, a sick combination. And as a third choice, I have to throw in the shark from Jaws, the type of villain that the reader rarely sees, yet you know he lurks beneath the surface, waiting to strike with deadly affect. These are my top three choices. In my own saga, The Silk & Steel Saga, I borrowed a little of Hannibal's keen intellect and a lot of the sharks lurking beneath the surface for my uber evil, the Mordant.


message 22: by Ariel (new)

Ariel Stirling | 80 comments The Mahrkagir from Kushiel's Avatar. Evil with a capital E.


message 23: by Ivi_kiwi (new)

Ivi_kiwi | 87 comments Voldemort and darken rahl are pretty evil.

Then craster from a song of ice and fire is a very bad person.. Oh and let us not forget ramsey snow, the bastard of the dreadfort.

I always felt a bit sorry for cersei, getting raped and being abused by robert "wenching and boozing" baratheon.


message 24: by Andrew (new)

Andrew Clark | 35 comments Not done with the series yet so I'm not sure but I'd say the dark one from WOT is pretty evil


message 25: by Vladan (new)

Vladan Stojanovic terpkristin wrote: "Paul wrote: "I did a very similar topic not long ago based on my hatred of Joffrey from A Song of Ice and Fire."

I remember that topic. Though I still think Cersei is more evil. And Tywinn. Joffre..."

Robert is not joffre's father....


message 26: by Kamil (new)

Kamil | 372 comments Read the book mentioned in the message 2 and all your villains (forgive me if I laugh) will become carebears in your eyes


message 27: by terpkristin (new)

terpkristin | 4185 comments Vladan wrote: "Robert is not joffre's father...."

I meant from a purpose of upraising, not from biology.

I'm not convinced that people are born inherently evil, but are a product of their upbringing.


message 28: by A.J. (new)

A.J. (ajbobo) | 72 comments My first thought (like Bryan up there) was Dread from the Otherland series. That guy scared me. And then we started getting POV scenes from inside his head, which made it even worse. Gak.

Reading the other responses, I also have to agree with Kristina about the bad guys from Pillars of the Earth. There were some seriously BAD people in that book.


message 29: by Rob, Roberator (new)

Rob (robzak) | 6885 comments Mod
Kamil wrote: "Khali from Beyond the Shadows, and it's all over, we can go home since we'll never find someone worst. She makes joffrey look like a teacher's pet boyscout"

I must have missed something. I just finished the book and she seems like a pretty minor character. Evil yes, but mostly in the background. She encourages evil in others, and the things done in her name are terrible, is that what you mean?


message 30: by William (new)

William Harlan (raunwynn) | 172 comments Skeletor.
He's got a skull for a face.


message 31: by Micah (new)

Micah (onemorebaker) | 1071 comments William wrote: "Skeletor.
He's got a skull for a face."


you can't get more evil than that.


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