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message 1: by Tami (new)

Tami | 3103 comments Mod
All questions about specific tasks and also general discussion. We will be adding some lists for books that could fit some of the harder to find tasks and updating it when people make suggestions. Feel free to give suggestions on books you think would fit someone’s needs for a task.


message 2: by Nicki (new)

Nicki (ophia) | 85 comments I actually have two questions:
1. When you say "children" what age are you thinking? I have Peter Pan for the younger group but I also have The Uglies and other YA.
2. The retelling. Do fairy tales count? I'm thinking Cinder


message 3: by Tami (new)

Tami | 3103 comments Mod
I would say Children would be 18 or younger so anything young adult or younger would work.
Cinder definitely would count!


message 4: by Kelly (new)

Kelly | 250 comments 25-1. 1 book by a female author AND 1 book by a male author about the same type of thing, person, event, etc. How do they compare? (This can be fiction or non fiction. Examples would be two mystery authors, or 2 biographies about the same person)

For this task do we post about how they compare to get the points or only read the two books to get the points?


message 5: by Tami (new)

Tami | 3103 comments Mod
When you post your points, do a quick comparison. Or you could post it in What are you currently reading thread. Either way.

Just something simple like you enjoyed one over the other or were they similar or was the writing style or tone better from one sex versus the other, etc. Doesn't need to be a full on review. Maybe sex of the author didn't make a difference. If so, write that.


message 6: by Kelly (last edited Sep 03, 2013 04:15PM) (new)

Kelly | 250 comments "5-8. Relating to some architectural marvel OR that shows one on the cover" - The Chronicles of Downton Abbey by Jessica Fellowes has a picture of Highclere Castle on the cover. Does Highclere Castle (the real Downton Abbey) count as an architectural marvel?
25-5. "Joe McCarthy, Richard Nixon, Studebaker, Television" (third line of "We Didn't Start the Fire") - Can I read The Revolution Was Televised (a book about TV and the shows that changed TV dramas)?
Also, "Rock & Roll" is mentioned in one of the later lines in the song, can I read: Ready for a Brand New Beat: How Dancing in the Street Became the Anthem for a Changing America by Mark Kurlansky?
"25-6. 2 books w/ opposing POVs." - Would a book about Downton Abbey and a book about Highclere Castle (where they film Downton and the real name of the house that is called Downton Abbey in the show) count as two different POVs? The book about the show, The World of Downton Abbey by Jessica Fellowes is the fictional take on the location and about the show and Lady Almina & the Real Downton Abbey is the real story of Highclere Castle and its history by the current resident of Highclere, the Countess of Carnarvon.


message 7: by Melissa (last edited Sep 04, 2013 09:12AM) (new)

Melissa | 279 comments For 15.2 One and Only: Can this be a one and only for a pen name? Or does it have to be the only book that the person has ever written?


message 8: by Tami (new)

Tami | 3103 comments Mod
Kelly wrote: ""5-8. Relating to some architectural marvel OR that shows one on the cover" - The Chronicles of Downton Abbey by Jessica Fellowes has a picture of Highclere Castle on the cover. Does Highclere Cast..."

For 5.8 you are good to go. Also good for 25.5. 25.6 I am not sure I am understanding correctly. Book 1 is fiction about the movie and location, while book 2 is non fiction about the actual castle? If so, that should be okay too. One a fictional point of view and the other an actual one? Hope that isn't too confusing in return.


message 9: by Tami (new)

Tami | 3103 comments Mod
Melissa wrote: "For 15.2 One and Only: Can this be a one and only for a pen name? Or does it have to be the only book that the person has ever written?"

It was meant as the only thing the author has written. So, lets say actual person, not pen names. If everyone is having issues and can't find anything else to fit, we may change it.


message 10: by Kelly (new)

Kelly | 250 comments Sorry about that. I didn't really know how to word my question for 25.6 but you got it right, thank you.


message 11: by Kelly (new)

Kelly | 250 comments "10-2. A word that starts with “Z” in the title"
Would the subtitle count? I haven't decided which book I want to read for this challenge but I am leaning toward Babylon's Ark: The Incredible Wartime Rescue of the Baghdad Zoo by Lawrence Anthony if the subtitle counts?


message 12: by Tami (new)

Tami | 3103 comments Mod
That would work just fine.


message 13: by Rebecca (new)

Rebecca (rmtb) | 62 comments For task 5.8, does the architectural marvel have to be a real one? I'm reading a book with Breugel's Tower of Babel on the cover - it's a marvel but certainly not real!


message 14: by Allison (new)

Allison | 179 comments For Task 25.6 do the two books have to be directly opposite in their points of view or can they just be two different perspectives on the same issue/topic?


message 15: by Tami (new)

Tami | 3103 comments Mod
Rebecca wrote: "For task 5.8, does the architectural marvel have to be a real one? I'm reading a book with Breugel's Tower of Babel on the cover - it's a marvel but certainly not real!"

I totally think that works.


message 16: by Tami (new)

Tami | 3103 comments Mod
Allison wrote: "For Task 25.6 do the two books have to be directly opposite in their points of view or can they just be two different perspectives on the same issue/topic?"

The task was for opposing views, which would be opposite. What were you thinking?


message 17: by Allison (new)

Allison | 179 comments I was thinking of reading Sex Sells!: The Media's Journey From Repression To Obsession and then I'm No Angel: From Victoria's Secret Model to Role Model as the opposite perspective. But I was realizing that the author of the second book is actually not arguing that the media is not like that, but instead is talking about how negative it was and how she got out of it. I think it's more of a different perspective than an opposite perspective. Does that make sense?


message 18: by Emily (new)

Emily (emilyknap) | 24 comments Do audio books count for this challenge? I can't remember.


message 19: by Mickslibrarian (new)

Mickslibrarian For 25.7, what would you classify autism as?


message 20: by Tami (new)

Tami | 3103 comments Mod
Nullifidian wrote: "For task 25.7, may I read
Crazy Like Us: The Globalization of the American Psyche
for the "mind" half of the task? It's not a precise fit for the category, which only talks about "a person", wh..."


That would work.


message 21: by Tami (new)

Tami | 3103 comments Mod
Emily wrote: "Do audio books count for this challenge? I can't remember."

Yes, unless the task specifically says no. I don't think any do this time around.


message 22: by Tami (new)

Tami | 3103 comments Mod
Mickslibrarian wrote: "For 25.7, what would you classify autism as?"

I am leaning more towards the emotional/social/psychological side.


message 23: by Allison (new)

Allison | 179 comments For Task 25.5 can you use "fire" as one of the topics listed?


message 24: by Tami (new)

Tami | 3103 comments Mod
Allison wrote: "For Task 25.5 can you use "fire" as one of the topics listed?"

I think so.


message 25: by Rebecca (new)

Rebecca (rmtb) | 62 comments For Task 20.3:
Sorry but please can someone explain what on earth are Boomer, Bizarro, and New Adult genres? I have never heard of them before! Is New Adult basically like YA? And Boomer doesn't seem to be a set genre on goodreads? - it has no description etc...

Also, under Mythopoeia only Tolkein's books seem to be listed - but could we choose another book that seems to fall under the genre definition but hasn't been tagged as such yet?


message 26: by Tami (last edited Sep 25, 2013 10:08AM) (new)

Tami | 3103 comments Mod
http://www.goodreads.com/shelf
Go here, and type the genres in. It will give you some longer lists.

I am like you and hadn't heard of Boomer or Bizarro. New Adult is more early to mid twenties than young adult with is usually teenagers.


message 27: by Rebecca (new)

Rebecca (rmtb) | 62 comments That's what I've been doing...


message 28: by Rebecca (new)

Rebecca (rmtb) | 62 comments For 'boomer' you just get this page - it only shows 'popular boomer books' that don't seem to particularly have much relating them all? And there's no description of the genre!


message 29: by Tami (new)

Tami | 3103 comments Mod
I would say if you can't find something that is already on the lists, as long as it seems to fit the category along with others on that list, it should be okay.


message 30: by Tami (new)

Tami | 3103 comments Mod
http://publishingperspectives.com/201...
http://jeanettevaughan.wordpress.com/...
Looks like it is Baby Boomer lit. Not exactly sure what all that includes, but maybe that will help.


message 31: by Rebecca (new)

Rebecca (rmtb) | 62 comments Okay thanks, that was what I was leaning towards interpreting it as!


message 32: by Nicki (new)

Nicki (ophia) | 85 comments Silly question. Are Apocalyptic and Post-Apocalyptic the same thing? Many books seem to be on both lists.


message 33: by Tami (new)

Tami | 3103 comments Mod
I noticed the same thing. I always felt they were similar but sort of a time difference thing. I would think apocalyptic would include the "event" and be immediately afterwards, while post would be years afterwards? Does that make sense? If it was for 20.3 I would say either would work.


message 34: by Nicki (new)

Nicki (ophia) | 85 comments Thanks Tami. I figured the same as you but was confused by the dual listings. It is for 20.3, I haven't picked a genre yet; I may do New Adult anyway


message 35: by Allison (new)

Allison | 179 comments For Task 5.4 Witches Brew, it says that you can read a book that has an ingredient for a witches brew in the title. On the website referenced, one response says, "Most are made from herbs and some types of incense."

Can I read a book with the word "thyme" in the title since that is an herb?


message 36: by Mickslibrarian (last edited Sep 28, 2013 10:01AM) (new)

Mickslibrarian That's why I thought it would be cool to do a challenge using these genres - what are these genres all about?! All of the genres should show up with a list of books when you do a GR genre search.

For mythopoeia, Tolkien is kind of the creator, but the genre has been expanded to include myth-based fiction, like Percy Jackson, or books that have their own internal mythology, like A Song of Fire and Ice. Anything that fits these criteria could be used.

For New Adult, think young adult but shift from late-teens to early 20s. Typical themes are college life, new jobs, falling in love, being on your own for the first time, etc.

Boomer, aka Baby Boomer, features main characters who are in their 60s and 70s, catering to the Baby Boomer crowd.

Bizarro is kind of self-explanatory - it's bizarre.

And Apocalyptic can also be considered Post-Apocalyptic - either will do.

Hope this helps, and I hope you find a new genre to enjoy reading!

Rebecca wrote: "For Task 20.3:
Sorry but please can someone explain what on earth are Boomer, Bizarro, and New Adult genres? I have never heard of them before! Is New Adult basically like YA? And Boomer doesn't se..."



message 37: by Tami (new)

Tami | 3103 comments Mod
Allison wrote: "For Task 5.4 Witches Brew, it says that you can read a book that has an ingredient for a witches brew in the title. On the website referenced, one response says, "Most are made from herbs and some ..."

That would work.


message 38: by Tami (new)

Tami | 3103 comments Mod
Mickslibrarian wrote: "That's why I thought it would be cool to do a challenge using these genres - what are these genres all about?! All of the genres should show up with a list of books when you do a GR genre search.
..."


Thanks for the clarification.


message 39: by Mickslibrarian (new)

Mickslibrarian For task 10.8, what about books, desks, or school uniforms?


message 40: by Tami (new)

Tami | 3103 comments Mod
those would totally work.


message 41: by Tami (new)

Tami | 3103 comments Mod
You are fine on both these!


message 42: by Allison (new)

Allison | 179 comments For Task 15.1 does the spelling have to be the same? I am wanting to read a book by a "Sara" instead of a "Sarah". If so it's fine :)


message 43: by Kelly (new)

Kelly | 250 comments For 15-5. would Deadly Heat by Richard Castle work? It is the fifth novel that the main character on Castle "wrote". The books came after the show but is closely linked to the storylines and characters on Castle.


message 44: by Pixie (new)

Pixie Rose (princesspixierose) 5-7: Book with the word "Death" in the title
Would Le Morte D'Arthur be all right? Morte means death, and the title is often translated as well.


message 45: by Tami (new)

Tami | 3103 comments Mod
Allison wrote: "For Task 15.1 does the spelling have to be the same? I am wanting to read a book by a "Sara" instead of a "Sarah". If so it's fine :)"

Spelling doesn't have to be the same. Too many ways to spell a lot of different names anymore. Sara or Sarah would be fine.


message 46: by Tami (new)

Tami | 3103 comments Mod
Kelly wrote: "For 15-5. would Deadly Heat by Richard Castle work? It is the fifth novel that the main character on Castle "wrote". The books came after the show but is closely linked to the storylines and charac..."

That would work.


message 47: by Tami (new)

Tami | 3103 comments Mod
Leah wrote: "5-7: Book with the word "Death" in the title
Would Le Morte D'Arthur be all right? Morte means death, and the title is often translated as well."


yes, that would work.


message 48: by Pixie (new)

Pixie Rose (princesspixierose) could i use a graphic novel for a challenge? like, a really long one?


message 49: by Tami (new)

Tami | 3103 comments Mod
Yes, as long as it is over the 150 pages or if it isn't that long, as long as it is only for a 5 or 10 pt task.


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