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Leslie wrote: "Weird Greg - let me know how it was!"
And it was nominated for 10 Tony Awards on Broadway too! - usually I can predict the general tone of a show, but I have no idea on this one. I'll let you know Leslie.
And it was nominated for 10 Tony Awards on Broadway too! - usually I can predict the general tone of a show, but I have no idea on this one. I'll let you know Leslie.

There's a live screening of The Deep Blue Sea at the end of the month, from the National Theatre. So I've just bought a ticket for it.

In case you are interested, the adaptation is by English company Sleepless Theatre. You can read more and see a very short trailer here: http://www.sleeplesstheatre.com/about-1/

There's a live screening of The Deep Blue Sea at the end of the month, from the National Theatre. So I've just..."
I thought I had responded to this but I guess I just thought about it and didn't actually write it!
I know Rattigan's name but I have never read or seen any of his work. Let me know how you like it Gill!

Sounds like a lot of fun Marina!

My review is HERE for those interested.


Pink wrote: "I just wanted to share that I'm going to see A midsummer nights dream tomorrow and I'm very much looking forward to it. I had such a good time watching Hamlet by myself at the Globe a few months ag..."
Wonderful Pink! - hope you and your mum have a great time!
Wonderful Pink! - hope you and your mum have a great time!
I have tickets to A View from the Bridge (Arthur Miller) in September. It still has the Broadway cast and won a Tony I believe. Looking forward to it! I've read and loved several plays by Miller, but I think this will be the first one by him I've seen performed.

Greg, that sounds like a lot of fun too :)

Sounds great Pink! I hope you and your mom will enjoy A Midsummer Night's Dream. I thoroughly enjoyed it at the Globe's touring performance in Hong Kong in 2014.

Sounds like a great way to celebrate your birthday Pink! Hope you have a good time :)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/...
Pink wrote: "Just thought I'd let everyone know that they now have the last night's performance of A Midsummer Night's Dream available on BBC iPlayer for anyone that would like to watch. It's probably not one f..."
Glad you enjoyed it Pink!
Glad you enjoyed it Pink!
Several weeks ago I saw the new production A View from the Bridge directed by Ivo van Hove; it was the same production that got rave reviews in London a couple years ago and in Broadway last year ... but unfortunately not the same cast as London or Broadway.
The play feels extremely different as reimagined by Hove; it's very stylized and much less "natural" than the original by Miller. It almost has a touch of Equus about it, that primal language of raw symbols in Equus' stage horses/men.
Sadly though, it didn't quite gel for me; it didn't have the sort of visceral impact it needed to work in the ultra-stylized format. Since the power wasn't there, some parts such as the odd movement/wrestling/dance in a shower of blood toward the end feel just weird rather than chill-worthy.
I suspect the problem is that the LA cast just couldn't carry it. The Broadway production retained at least some of the original London cast and added other talented Londoners like Russell Tovey as well. By contrast, the LA cast doesn't have any holdovers from either the London or Broadway casts. The LA cast was okay but not stellar - I think for this slightly outlandish production style to work, the acting needs to be better than okay. I did see it on the first preview night though; maybe the cast just needs time to grow into it.
The play feels extremely different as reimagined by Hove; it's very stylized and much less "natural" than the original by Miller. It almost has a touch of Equus about it, that primal language of raw symbols in Equus' stage horses/men.
Sadly though, it didn't quite gel for me; it didn't have the sort of visceral impact it needed to work in the ultra-stylized format. Since the power wasn't there, some parts such as the odd movement/wrestling/dance in a shower of blood toward the end feel just weird rather than chill-worthy.
I suspect the problem is that the LA cast just couldn't carry it. The Broadway production retained at least some of the original London cast and added other talented Londoners like Russell Tovey as well. By contrast, the LA cast doesn't have any holdovers from either the London or Broadway casts. The LA cast was okay but not stellar - I think for this slightly outlandish production style to work, the acting needs to be better than okay. I did see it on the first preview night though; maybe the cast just needs time to grow into it.

Would anyone else be interested in sharing this section of the group with me? Or at least have some ideas for themes or plays for 2017?


As for where to go from here, I don't know! I'd like to read more Greek drama and some Shakespeare, but I can't think of any particular themes. I hope Gill has offered you more help than I have!



Me too! I think that an Elizabethan drama theme is a good idea. Thanks Pink & Gill!

One thing I can think of from the top of my head is how under represented women are in drama (as writers obviously) it's not the most inspired theme, but it's a start ;)
Oh and one more thing: how about a genre cross between our poetry and the drama section. Goethe's Faust for example and pretty much everything Shakespeare and Marlowe have written is verse drama/ dramatic poetry?





I was lucky enough to see that in Brighton in august in a fairly small theatre. I have to admit to being fairly confused for most of the play but nothing could detract from watching the incredible talent of the cast. It was also the hottest day of the year and almost unbearably warm in the old theatre but I still enjoyed myself!

Here's my review: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...

Some plays I've recently enjoyed reading have been by Edward Albee, Wole Soyinka, Moliere and Shakespeare. I've also been a fan of Sophocles, Euripides, Arthur Miller and George Bernard Shaw, though I read these longer ago. So I suppose I don't have as many problems as I thought in just reading the text.
The plays I've read and struggled with, feeling like a stage production would have been more beneficial are Creditors, Art, A Doll's House, Waiting for Godot and Dancing at Lughnasa. These were all 2 star, okay reads, but I think I was missing something just reading the text. I have fonder memories looking back on them after an elapse of time, but definitely had a disconnect with them on the page which I don't think is all down to them not being to my taste.

What I like doing best is seeing a play, and then reading it later.

Playwright: Eugene O'Neill
Finish date: 02 February 2017
Rating: A
Review: We all know Eugene O’ Neill was an alcoholic.
Alcohol proba..."
Have you seen this performed, Nancy? Continuing from what I just said to Pink, I saw this performed and thought it was magnificent, and have since read it a couple of times.

For me the dialogue-heavy plays, with well notated stage directions, are easier to read than plays with sparse, terse dialogue and meaningful silences.

What I like doing best is seeing a play, and then readin..."
Maybe that was one reason that I liked 'Art'.
Pink, I find that it is sometimes helpful to listen to a full cast audio edition -- it is sort of a middle ground between reading a play and seeing it performed. For classics in the public domain, LibriVox has some very good full cast recordings. And if your library has them, L.A. Theater Works has a lot of plays in audio. However, sometimes plays just need to be seen... after all, they were not written to be read as a book but to be performed. I find that it isn't just the actions but also the facial expressions that add so much to a performance.
Based on the plays that you have enjoyed reading, you might like some Restoration comedies such as The School for Scandal.

Playwright: Eugene O'Neill
Finish date: 02 February 2017
Rating: A
Review: We all know Eugene O’ Neill was ..."
A rating from me too for this play! I had seen the Hepburn-Robards movie of this years before I read it and would recommend this version over the 1987 one -- maybe you can get the DVD from your local library (instead of buying it)?

Leslie, I'll take a look on librivox to see what they have. Thanks for the recommendation too, I'll check out The school for scandal.
Gill in regards to watching the performance before reading, I've remembered this is what I've been doing with Shakespeare, so it makes sense this would work for more modern plays too.
Pink wrote: "Thanks for your feedback everyone, Liz, you're probably right that dialogue heavy plays or well described stage direction should work better for me.
Leslie, I'll take a look on librivox to see wh..."
I've had this happen with some plays Pink, though unlike the rest of you I really loved Dancing at Lughnasa on paper. I think the ones I have the most trouble with on paper are the absurdist ones because I completely miss some of the humor. I got almost nothing out of Waiting for Godot on paper, ditto for Ubu Roi.
As I read plays, I often imagine in my head what facial expressions the actors might use in spots; sometimes I think of things I've seen before in other plays. I don’t know if that helps me bridge the gap? I try to read them as a director would, thinking about how they might be staged and produced. Occasionally when I see a play produced later, I actually feel disappointed because they don't live up to what I'd imagined, haha. But other times, talented productions show facets of a play that I'd completely missed!
I definitely prefer to see as well as read plays, but when that's not possible, I do feel like I get enough out of reading them to make it worth it!
I'm definitely going to try to listen to more full cast recordings along with the books. Thanks for the idea Leslie!
Leslie, I'll take a look on librivox to see wh..."
I've had this happen with some plays Pink, though unlike the rest of you I really loved Dancing at Lughnasa on paper. I think the ones I have the most trouble with on paper are the absurdist ones because I completely miss some of the humor. I got almost nothing out of Waiting for Godot on paper, ditto for Ubu Roi.
As I read plays, I often imagine in my head what facial expressions the actors might use in spots; sometimes I think of things I've seen before in other plays. I don’t know if that helps me bridge the gap? I try to read them as a director would, thinking about how they might be staged and produced. Occasionally when I see a play produced later, I actually feel disappointed because they don't live up to what I'd imagined, haha. But other times, talented productions show facets of a play that I'd completely missed!
I definitely prefer to see as well as read plays, but when that's not possible, I do feel like I get enough out of reading them to make it worth it!
I'm definitely going to try to listen to more full cast recordings along with the books. Thanks for the idea Leslie!

Well, I was including Ibsen in this category, so who knows? :)


Gill wrote: "Re Long Day's Journey, I've just remembered seeing a tv production done in real time i.e. Each act was on tv at the time of day (all on the same day) that it is detailed as taking place in the act ..."
That sounds very interesting Gill! I wonder if it's still available somewhere?
That sounds very interesting Gill! I wonder if it's still available somewhere?

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