The Sea of Monsters
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What the hell was that?! (Movie discussion)
Not to mention the movie was boring as shit... Ugh
Wow...and here I was thinking about how better this movie was going to be better than the first one...why don't you just see it as a different series all together. That's what I did
I was so excited too. :( I can't tell you how absolutely disappointed I was. (Even if I had, it was still an immensely boring film that fails Greek mythology)
I'm going to start off by stating that, I think everyone who was thinking about seeing the movie should see it and build their own opinion from there. Yes, these things are changed, but there are also a lot of the things in the movie that DID make sense and WERE in the books, as well as things that they tried to patch up from the first one, and are trying to make the fans happy.
I don't like movie adaptions and changes either, but you have to understand and accept some of them. I feel as though the changes that were made to this movie made more sense and were more necessary than the changes that were made to the first one.
You also left out the fact that Thalia was brought into it, and with all of her parts of recognition, they were all in the book. I absolutely loved the end part where she awakens from the ground. Her actor was absolutely perfect.
There are good points too, I just don't think people should be turned against the movie or the whole movie series all together because of this, because they are improving and they are trying. Mr. D's actor was perfect!
I never told people not to watch it... I'm not starting a boycott or anything. But they did take out A LOT of really great scenes from the book. I would say a good half of the book and they added stuff that didn't make sense at this point in the series. Kronos coming back for instance. And again they implied that Luke is dead (killed by Polyphemus)... And then a useless scene with annabeth dying even though everybody in the audience is aware that they have a magical Golden Fleece that can heal anything (as was stated several times). So I think it says something that even I don't know what they next movie will be about and I've read the books.
And screwing with the classic myths is just unacceptable in my opinion. If they can't get the story right, they could at least get the myths that the story is based on correct.
Also, the book was supposed to be an epic journey, based largely on the Odyssey. And they took out almost everything that allowed the viewer to make those connections: the sirens, Sylla, Cerci, etc.
By all means people should go out and form their own opinions, but mine is that it was utterly insulting to a lover of this series who appreciates the vast references to Greek mythology that the series contains.
Wow. I haven't seen it yet (I figure there's no point spending money on yet another movie that I will undoubtedly make an "everything they messed up" list for), but I was honestly hoping for something better than the joke that the first movie ended up being. This sounds terrible! ESPECIALLY the parts in which the myths are screwed up... that's just lazy. Percy Jackson is what got me into Greek mythology, and I loved catching parallels in the books that went unacknowledged (like Clarisse & Silena's situation in The Last Olympian echoing the story of Achilles & Patroclus in the Illiad). Of course, I was prepared for this sort of let-down when I saw the trailer (which barely had anything I recognized from the book), but it's still a disappointment to hear this.Does anyone know if they actually do plan on making three more movies? Maybe they'll just abandon it when it turns out to be a waste of money. Percy Jackson and the Olympians is basically the defining book series of my childhood, in much the same way that Harry Potter is for other people, so these travesties of movie adaptations almost feel like a personal insult to me. (On a side note, Chris Columbus directed Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone quite skillfully, so how did he manage to botch The Lightning Thief up so badly?) I was in 6th grade when the Lightning Thief movie came out, and I remember being so excited I could hardly stand it. My brother and I even made Camp Half-Blood t-shirts to wear to the theater! (You can imagine the metaphorical slap in the face I received when the orange camp t-shirts were mysteriously missing from the movie.)
Anyway, I will never see a Percy Jackson movie in the theater again. I'll rent The Sea of Monsters from RedBox. I feel compelled to watch every movie adaptation they make because of how much I love the books, but I'm not sure that future movies will even be worth that one dollar...
It's because JK Rowling was very much involved in all of the Harry potter movies. Rick Riordan was not involved in these at all.
Cherie wrote: "It's because JK Rowling was very much involved in all of the Harry potter movies. Rick Riordan was not involved in these at all."That's true.
I know, I didn't mean to imply that you were pushing people to not watch it. I'm sorry for saying it that way. It came off bad, and I realize that now. I was more-so saying that towards the people that have been saying they don't want to give this one a shot after the first one was so terrible.
Also, I completely agree on the implying-Luke-is-dead-thing. That was a huge drawback of mine from the first one. People argued with me that him being pushed off a building into the water didnt mean death. So I kind of liked that he mentioned he could swim, but then they turned around and did the same thing again with the cyclops scene, so bleh.
There were things I liked and things I disliked.
Overall, I say this one was BETTER than the first. I will still go to see the next one, unless they cast someone awful for my favorite character, Nico. Then I will never see them again.
I'm actually dying over how accurate this is. You are my new favorite person. If there were a trophy for telling it like it is, you'd win it. Especially on them not being able to get the flipping myths right! It actually was beyond terrible.
Hannah wrote: "I'm actually dying over how accurate this is. You are my new favorite person. If there were a trophy for telling it like it is, you'd win it. Especially on them not being able to get the flipping m..."Haha thank you :P
Cherie wrote: "No... No, what the actual fuck was that??? Sorry, there will be cussing in this post because I am absolutely DISGUSTED by the new Percy Jackson sea of monsters movie. Spoiler alert: they complete..."
AWESOME, i HATED it i was so pissed an complained the whole time .... lol excellent review
Cherie wrote: "No... No, what the actual fuck was that??? Sorry, there will be cussing in this post because I am absolutely DISGUSTED by the new Percy Jackson sea of monsters movie. Spoiler alert: they complete..."
No dont tell me this! I was hoping this movie would stick to the plot of the book. His books dont need hollywood changes. I guess i will see the six dollar matinee
I don't agree. They have to change things. What's the point of it being exactly the same?
I just watched the movie last night and I was absolutely appalled with how badly it turned out. I was really hoping this one would redeem the movie franchise, after how horrible the first one turned out, but of course, it didn't.They changed the plot so much from the book, that I was almost amazed to actually see that kept any the same. I was so ready for them to start calling Percy by a whole other name, since evidently they didn't give a damn about how it related to the books.
The things that bugged me the most were...
- Clarisse: Okay, Clarisse is suppose to be the camp bully who is cruel to everyone, especially Percy. She's not suppose to redeem herself, become the nice girl who like basically begins to worship Percy in the end of Sea of Monsters.
- Annabeth and Percy: What happened to the amazing characters we were introduced to in the books? They were 2-dimensional. I felt like their whole personalities had been scrapped and instead they had been replaced with stock characters.
- Demigods: When the Colchis Bull attacked, the demigods did NOTHING. Have they not been sent to Camp Half-Blood to actually learn how to fight and protect themselves?! Instead they all stood around and just started at the bloody bull while it tore apart their camp.
- Luke's Transportation Device: Honestly? Was this just some random thing to make it so much more 'dramatic'? And why did Luke not transport himself away when Kronos was about to eat him?!
- Krnons: WHY WAS HE A BIG LAVA-ROCK GUY?! ALL THE OTHER GODS LOOK LIKE PEOPLE. WHAT WAS THIS?!
- Annabeth's Death: What happened here? They all started to freak out, but no one was smart enough to immediately realize that they had the Golden Fleece in their hands! They had the most powerful healing device known to Greek Mythology, and they were like 'oh, whatever. Let's just watch her die in one of the most painful ways ever. Then we'll help her after she dies!'
- The Prophecy: Okay, I get how they had to change the age of the Prophecy to 20 from 16, since they completey changed all the character's ages, but did that not bug anyone else? It just made me cringe.
- The Horrible Script: *scream* 'That's Clarisse!' 'That's not Clarisse!' 'YOU STUPID MORONS!' 'That's Clarisse!'
- It's A Small World: .... Just what was that?!
- Tyson: Just everything.
The two things I actually did like was some of Luke's lines. They were horrible, but they actually added something to the line.
And most of all, the Firefly refrence from Hermes/Nathan Fillion. It was absolutely brilliant that they threw that in there.
I won't tell anyone not to go see it, just to wait until it's in a late-release theater, available to rent, available on Netflix, or perhaps playing on the family channel. It is not, by any stretch of the imagination, worth $10.I did go see it - mostly because it was the only one I was remotely interested in when I wanted to go see a movie. I started regretting it about 20 minutes in. I might have enjoyed it at a $3 movie theater.
I totally agree. The story line of the movie was awful! It ripped all the good parts out and replaced them with junk. I seriously hope the don't continue the series.
THEY FREAKIN TOOK OUT CIRCES ISLAND?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! WTF MAN!!!!
Yup... They made it into a deserted theme park and it is located on the same island as Polyphemus. >_<
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THATS LIKE THE THING I MOST FREAKIN WANTED TO SEE WTF, wait... by any chance do any of you know ricks email? either he makes a better movie or ill try to sue, or something since idk how 2 sue
Samantha wrote: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THATS LIKE THE THING I MOST FREAKIN WANTED TO SEE WTF, wait... by any chance do any of you know ricks email? either he makes a better movie or ill ..."He has nothing to do with the movie making he even admits that he doesn't like them/hasn't seen them himself. You can't blame him for this. Also, it's Hollywood you can't sue because you don't like a movie..
Well... that sucks... mabey if I had his email I could persuade him to get a g=cast, Mabey some of us, probably not, and make a better few!
Well Annabeth was revived by the Golden Fleece.
A highly unnecessary scene used for dramatic effect... It was completely anticlimactic, we all KNEW they had the fleece and therefore the ability to heal her. It wasn't a surprise... The whole scene was a waste of time.
Question: What amazing Percy/Annabeth moment occurs in this book? Because I've already read it and can't think of anything.
that isn't true... it was A LOT better than the first, and wasn't THAT boring!
You don't remember the part with the sirens? When annabeth wants to hear them because they reveal the truth of your desires.. But then she jumps into the ocean and tries to swim away and Percy saves her. Then they are in this little underwater bubble and he just holds her while she cries. :( one of my all time favorite Percy/annabeth moments!!
What about the Hydra?
Red Solo Cup wrote: "I feel that in this movie, the director tried. But the reason that most people didn't like it is because they are being picky about the details. That's why I always get discouraged when a book beco..."We say it'd be an awesome movie because if they stuck to the plot it would be! Like HP! But when you add stupid and unnecessary things and even stuff contradicting from the books it turns horrible!
There is a difference between leaving details out and changing the entire plot by adding in parts that weren't supposed to happen for another 3 books as well as changing details that should be left alone (ahem... The myths..) I'm not that picky when it comes to movie adaptations, but this one was horrible and I blame it solely on the fact that Riordan was not involved in the production.. Plus the characters don't have any depth in this movie, especially annabeth. There was really nothing I liked about the movie. They tried, yes... But they failed.
Me either! GAH!! How badly do they have to fuck up till the point where we don't even know where the series is going anymore? Why?! Dx why did they have to resurrect Kronos so goddamn early? It's not right...
Cherie wrote: "You don't remember the part with the sirens? When annabeth wants to hear them because they reveal the truth of your desires.. But then she jumps into the ocean and tries to swim away and Percy save..."
Thanks!!!! I'm doing a re-read and am just about to get to that scene! Can't wait! :)
Thanks!!!! I'm doing a re-read and am just about to get to that scene! Can't wait! :)
:) I just think it would have added so much depth to their characters if they had added that scene... I'm about to reread sea of monsters as well. ;)
these producers nowadays. they need to get their heads out of their !%%&% don't they know that's it's not a hat. I am not looking forward to watching the movie anymore.
Bailey wrote: "I'm going to start off by stating that, I think everyone who was thinking about seeing the movie should see it and build their own opinion from there. Yes, these things are changed, but there ar..."
I'm not trying to be a grammar nazi, but it's actress...?
I really wanted to see Percy get turned into a hamster but it didn't happen. ):
I meant guinea pig. oops
It's funny... Sometimes I'll write something like this and after a while I'll go back and reread it and think, "Hm, maybe I was a bit too harsh." This is not one of those times... Haha :p
One thing, beside alle the obvious mistakes, is how they have screwd up the characters.- First of all, the age... It messes with everything!
- How little depth there is in Annabeths portrayal. She is this amazing female character, with flaws like her pride and know-it-all attitude. And it got lost in this.. thing. A lot of the get-to-know Annabeth part in The Sea of Monster.. it wasn't there. And for me, it was in this book that I started shipping Percabeth.
- Tyson.. everything was wrong.. The contrast between the body and personality. I pictured him bigger and rougher physical. And then this sweet face with this naiv, simple and adorable person inside! And this wanna-be stamps in and make him totaly different..
- Clariss.. Well, like Tyson, I picture her more bigger and rougher as well (not in a Tyson-way though!). And that she would have more pride and be a bit more annoying.. If I remember right, she did som hugh mistakes on that quest because she didn't take advice from Percy..
- And Percy.. meh! I didn't get the Percy-awsomeness-vibe from him like in the books.. I feel like they used the entire movie to build up Percys "badass-ness", and didn't pull it of. If they just had followed Riordens book, that would have come naturally and It wouldn't seem like a brag movie. and did they totaly forget to save Blackjack?!?!
I really liked Nathan Fillion as Hermes. And Mr.D was awesome! And Rainbow! OMG! So cute!
And that they swithced Pierce Brosnan with Anthony Head was a brilliant move as well.
But I must say... there were very little I enjoyd in this movie... :(
I completely agree with everything, couldn't have said it better... The characters in the movie were so soulless and flat. All chances for solid characterization was taken out, which is a shame because the characterization is one of the main reasons I love these books. :\ Annabeth was absolutely useless in the movie, I couldn't stand it. >_>
No ones said anything about Grover so I will. First he was already supposed to be there because he is searching for Pan. Luke DOES NOT take him to the Cyclops cave. Second thing that immensely bothers me is the fact that Annabeth wasn't the smart alec girl I learned to love in the book. When they were fighting Polyphemus she uses her invisibility hat to trick the Cyclops by calling herself "Nobody" Because that's what Odysseus did, but they definitely did not do that in the movie.They messed up with the myths.
Oh and don't even get me started on Kronos rising. HE WASN'T SUPPOSED TO RISE UNTIL THE LAST BOOK! And Luke was supposed to be his vessel.
They messed up the whole prophecy because Percy wasn't' supposed to get it till the last book but he got it in the second one (and I'm sure they really messed up the meaning but it's been awhile since I've read The Last Olympian).
I didn't like Annabeth she was too shallow and didn't have any depth.
Also I don't understand why you guys disliked Tyson. I liked the way they portrayed him. I thought he was really close to the Tyson in the book.
I pretty much covered everything that I hated about this movie.
I tried to give it a chance I tried so hard and I was okay with it (barely) until Kronos rose and I was literally about to turn it off. I thought this movie would've been better than the first but I was wrong. Horribly wrong.
Preach it! :p haha... I agree except about Tyson. I thought the bottle of mist was a cheap cop out am they could have done waaaay better about his eye and character.. But to me he wasn't that big of a deal and I looked past him.
Cherie wrote: "Preach it! :p haha... I agree except about Tyson. I thought the bottle of mist was a cheap cop out am they could have done waaaay better about his eye and character.. But to me he wasn't that big o..."I will! And yeah of course I don't agree with everything about Tyson (the bottle of mist... Yeah hated that), but there was enough things I despised about the movie that I looked past it.
I thought the movie was a jokeI hate every part of it
So I've only just got round to seeing this film, because i was honestly dreading it after how the first one was.... WHAT. THE.ACTUAL. FUCK. WAS. THAT?! I'm a massive fan of the entire series and this was just one big massive insult to it. What is the fucking point of making a film of a book, if you're going to change pretty much the entire story-line, ruin the characters, add some pointless shit, take out the best and most fundamental parts, and basically kill THE WHOLE DAMN SERIES????!!!! 1. The 'bottle of mist shit... What the heck was that? The mist is explained in the books as the mystical thing that hides the mythical from the mortals, something that hides Tyson's eyes, even from Percy until he's in Camp Half-Blood 2. I loved the start of the book, with the school and basket ball stuff, they ruined it by missing it out. 3. Chariot Racing and Tantalus, some great parts of the book that they completely missed out, made me sad. 4. The whole Grover being part of the quest then kidnapped by Luke thing, NO, just NO... 5. Missing out the Hydra, Circe's island, The Sirens and all that.. WHY??? 6. The Characters, they killed them.. Annabeth, Percy, Clarisse and even Tyson's characters were just totally wrong for me... Tyson's meant to be this guy who's basically a big baby, 'Ponies' 'Annaeth is pretty' 'Scared... Smell funny' stuff like that, Annabeth is meant to have her wisdom and pride and all that.. I thought she was pretty weak in this, Clarisse too.
7. Kronos... Hell no... Why bring him in fricking THREE BOOKS EARLY as some crappy lava-rock dude who EATS LUKE... WTF???!!!
8. ALL OF IT. This film was utter crap in my opinion, with very few good points, and just killed Rick Riordan's beautiful work... I hated it and just wanted to scream and punch at the screen through the whole thing. I hope the producers and directors and screenplay writers meet Hades soon. (Maybe that's harsh but IDC I'M SO ANGRY RN.
Not too harsh... Right on point. This movie was insulting to true Percy Jackson fans and especially the fans that love all the mythological aspects. They took out most of them and ruined the rest.
The movies were indeed a great injustice done to the books. PJO (and HoO..if possible in the future) DESERVES THE BEST BOOK-ADAPTED MOVIES!!!!
The movies are exactly like what Hercules said in the Mark Of Athena. The irony was so true it hurt.
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Sorry, there will be cussing in this post because I am absolutely DISGUSTED by the new Percy Jackson sea of monsters movie. Spoiler alert: they completely ruin the entire series in less than two hours.
They started off trying to add in all the crap they left out in the last movie: clarisse, dionysus, the prophesy, the oracle, etc... Sound good, right? Weeeellll, don't get too excited because they take out ALL THE BEST PARTS OF THE BOOK, including, but not limited to: Cersei's island (which is now an abandoned theme park), the sirens and the amazing Percy/annabeth moment, Sylla (how can you have Charybdis without Sylla?), and so on. It's been a while since I read the books so I have forgotten some parts.
Not only do they change the prophesy, therefore changing the purpose of the entire series, but they also decided, "Hey let's resurrect Kronos 3 books early and make the next books absolutely fucking pointless" Theeeen there is an anticlimactic scene where annabeth dies, but doesn't... Which lasts about 2 minutes. Spare me. And a part where they are swallowed by Charybdis.... And so on and so forth. Tons of entirely useless additions.
Oh and last thing... HOW DO YOU FUCK UP THE MYTHS??? How? One of my favorite things about this series is how much I learned about Greek mythology and I am so disappointed that they couldn't even get that right. The movie claimed that Zeus, Poseidon, and Hades escaped from Kronos after he attempted to eat them... That is not how shit went down! Zeus was hidden from Kronos by Rhea and eventually Zeus tricked Kronos into throwing up his siblings after which they overthrew the titans. Get your shit together!
SCREW THIS MOVIE! Screw everybody involved in it. I'm done.. I reuse to watch any further movies put out. I'm gonna reread my books and pretend this shit never happened.
End rant!