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message 1: by C.M.J. (last edited Jul 30, 2013 06:50AM) (new)

C.M.J. Wallace | 38 comments I just got a notice that Facebook did not remove the page. Here's their response: "Thank you for taking the time to report something that you feel may violate our Community Standards. Reports like yours are an important part of making Facebook a safe and welcoming environment. We reviewed the page you reported for containing theft or vandalism and found it doesn't violate our community standard on theft or vandalism."

Unbelievable.

My books aren't on that site, but this nonresponse makes me very angry. If anyone knows how to force them to do something, please post and take action.

The pirating site's address: https://www.facebook.com/ReadOnlineSt...


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F.F. McCulligan | 26 comments Looks like the page was removed. Huzzah!


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C.M.J. Wallace | 38 comments Hooray indeed!

It was removed yesterday. I reposted to report that, but who has time to go through posts all day long just to see what's happening out there? :)


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Kelly Hull (kellyvan) | 37 comments How do you guys feel about when people share the PDF you send them?


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C.M.J. Wallace | 38 comments Kelly wrote: "How do you guys feel about when people share the PDF you send them?"

That's copyright infringement and is actionable. I'd be pretty furious and I'd follow up. Did that happen to you? Do you know the person?


message 6: by Kyra (new)

Kyra Halland (kyrahalland) Kelly wrote: "How do you guys feel about when people share the PDF you send them?"

I'd be furious too. If it was someone who requested it for a Read and Review, that's against the rules, and I'd report them to the group mod.

It's also illegal.


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Amanda Brenner (amandabrenner) C.M.J. wrote: "I just got a notice that Facebook did not remove the page. Here's their response: "Thank you for taking the time to report something that you feel may violate our Community Standards. Reports like ..."

I just tried to access the link to see what was going on. I got a message that the page was unavailable and may have been removed. So something worked?


message 8: by C.M.J. (new)

C.M.J. Wallace | 38 comments Yes, FB took down the page. I posted the news yesterday under the thread heading "The end of the pirates," I believe.


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Clarissa Wild (clarissawild) | 18 comments May I ask, how did you find out about it at first? I'm curious, because I want to know how I can keep an eye on the web for my own books :) Don't want them pirated either, so I'd like to know how you scan it.


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C.M.J. Wallace | 38 comments Clarissa wrote: "May I ask, how did you find out about it at first? I'm curious, because I want to know how I can keep an eye on the web for my own books :) Don't want them pirated either, so I'd like to know how y..."

Carolyn Bennett (I don't know her) posted it on the Facebook site Authors and Book Lovers Discussion Group, and I took it from there because I didn't see anything about it in my Goodreads groups. Another GR member suggested using muso.com, which apparently is a watchdog site that alerts you if your work is being pirated. I haven't checked it yet, but I plan to.


message 11: by Christina (new)

Christina | 7 comments On the whole PDF thing I'm not sure how to respond. Yes, it is stealing, but how are you going to stop a reader from sending a file to their friend? It's the same as loaning someone a cd and then they play/download it on their computer. If they are selling it and making more money than I am, that's a different story. But if they're giving away free copies to someone who probably wouldn't buy it anyway and might actually read it now.... I don't know.


message 12: by C.M.J. (new)

C.M.J. Wallace | 38 comments Christina wrote: "On the whole PDF thing I'm not sure how to respond. Yes, it is stealing, but how are you going to stop a reader from sending a file to their friend? It's the same as loaning someone a cd and then t..."

It's the principle of the thing. Would you be happy if someone gave away thousands of copies of your work? How is that any different from their giving away even a single copy? I would rather have the decision to give them away left up to me. But maybe you're thinking of it as advertising, which I understand...up to a point.


message 13: by Kelly (new)

Kelly Hull (kellyvan) | 37 comments It's my first novel, so I've decided to look at it as a compliment and a chance to gain new readers.


message 14: by C.M.J. (new)

C.M.J. Wallace | 38 comments As long as it doesn't bug you, then! Good luck with your book.


message 15: by Christina (new)

Christina | 7 comments C.M.J. wrote: "Christina wrote: "On the whole PDF thing I'm not sure how to respond. Yes, it is stealing, but how are you going to stop a reader from sending a file to their friend? It's the same as loaning someo..."

I totally get the principle of the thing. If there was a button I could press that kept people from giving away my work to even one other person I might press it, but there isn't. People sharing artist's work is a problem that exists across the board of creative mediums. Everyone wants things for free. I can either choose to be mad about it or look at it as a chance to solidify my name, brand and possibly make new fans. It doesn't mean I'm happy about it, but I'm not going to let something I can't control ruin my desire to write and publish. I have enough problems I can do something about. :)


message 16: by chucklesthescot (new)

chucklesthescot As a reviewer I can tell authors that when I finish a pdf of your book, it gets deleted when the book review is complete and I no longer need it for reference. If I do keep it longer it is just to remind me of plot or characters before I go to read and review the next book. Then it is deleted. I would never share it.


message 17: by C.M.J. (new)

C.M.J. Wallace | 38 comments chucklesthescot wrote: "As a reviewer I can tell authors that when I finish a pdf of your book, it gets deleted when the book review is complete and I no longer need it for reference. If I do keep it longer it is just to ..."

It's good to know there are people like you out there!


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