City of Glass
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Sebastian is right
Well, not to be rude or anything, but you could've said all of that stuff a lot nicer. How about you read the fucking book before you judge it?
I'm at about 60% and well yeah I am reading the book. This book is complete crap. I made a commitment to read this series and I'm sticking through to that but having a hard time finding anything of substantial value in this storyline. I actually liked the first book. The second was bleh and this third book is complete crap. Will the last 40% of the book change my opinion? Probably not. But let me guess at the ending. Clary will be the hero. Jace will turn out not to be her brother. They hook up and have babies for the next series to continue? Oh, and yeah Valentine dies in the end. Am I right?
You could have said that a lot nicer. I agree with some of your points but you're just coming off as plain rude. It's insulting to say that all Young Adults just love vampires, sister attraction, and gay love (I don't see anything wrong with the vampires and gay love personally). Yes, vampires are bit overdone but so what if teenagers like them? There's nothing wrong with liking a genre. And could you explain to me how Clary is an "annoying whining bitch"? And why did you, a 44 year old man, keep reading the series if you seem to hate everything about it so much? Why did you even start a series about teen paranormal romance if you despise them so much?
Dale wrote: "Sebastian is right. Clary is freaking annoying, whining bitch. Jace is lusting over his own sister. Alex a 16 year old boy is in love with a 600 year old man. Not only creepy but perverse. Cassandr..."How can you judge a book without reading it first!?
I didn't write it to be nice Jordan. Frustrating to see this type of literature being the "cat's meow" for teenagers. So many 5 stars on this materials, maybe it is the the only book series that kids have read, but that is what makes me come off as rude I suppose because I find it terribly disturbing. There is nothing wrong with gay love either, however, there is no point of it in this story especially with a teenage boy and a very old man. That makes it disturbing. If I was a gay man I would be infuriated by this story. It is demeaning and makes same sex relationships like like pedophiles or child molestors. I am reading the series to its completion for 2 reasons 1) I started it so I am going to finish it. 2) I made a commitment to a friend to read the series. I actually like the genre, however, I would prefer it to have some substance or a solid moral message.
Shiny wrote: "Dale wrote: "Sebastian is right. Clary is freaking annoying, whining bitch. Jace is lusting over his own sister. Alex a 16 year old boy is in love with a 600 year old man. Not only creepy but perve..."I'm now at 70% through City of Glass. I am pretty sure the end is not going to change much in the relationships part which is where the creepy parts come in. I liked the first book very much even with some of the quirky and strange non conventional relationships. I also like the style in which it is written. I just wish that it wasn't so predictable and that there was some upstanding value to the story. Sorry if I dashed you favorite book series, but I don't get it. Good thing the whole world doesn't think exactly the same as it would be a boring world.
I will say I think that Jace is a pretty cool character, would like to see a book with just him and cut out the rest.
Dale wrote: "Sebastian is right. Clary is freaking annoying, whining bitch. Jace is lusting over his own sister. Alex a 16 year old boy is in love with a 600 year old man. Not only creepy but perverse. Cassandr..."If you actually read the thing, you'd see that they're not siblings. Actually, I think that one who can think could figure out since book 1 that Valentine lied.
And what the fuck is wrong with gay love?
Nothing, He's just being an asshole.
Guys, I can see where the guy is coming from, I have read the entire series, though I disagree with quite a few of his points and the manner in which he said them I can see where he is coming from.
Clary, what does she do exactly? She's there but not doing much, I'm pretty sure Church does more than her.
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But I do not agree with his point with Alec and Magnus, I think Cassandra is trying to get across the point age is just a number, and we have to remember Magnus being a warlock is somewhat immortal and he ages very differently to humans, so perhaps this also means he is actually only mentally late teens early twenties?
I do think he writing is slightly predictable, but she does have a marvellous plot!
We can't shoot down people for what they think, and nor can they for us.
Clary, what does she do exactly? She's there but not doing much, I'm pretty sure Church does more than her.
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But I do not agree with his point with Alec and Magnus, I think Cassandra is trying to get across the point age is just a number, and we have to remember Magnus being a warlock is somewhat immortal and he ages very differently to humans, so perhaps this also means he is actually only mentally late teens early twenties?
I do think he writing is slightly predictable, but she does have a marvellous plot!
We can't shoot down people for what they think, and nor can they for us.
Why don't we take a step back and really look at this book/series? First of all Clary is no more "whiny" than a lot of characters in a lot of books so i don't even consider that a valid point. Also, she's a TEENAGER! Everything is drama at that age. I think its a relatively accurate portrayal. Secondly about the "sister love". When you develop feelings for someone you can't just shut them off. Even if you know its wrong or bad for you. Lets talk battered women... Clary and Jace fight against it for a good long time because they know that incest isn't good. I'm not even going to address the gay thing because whether you are sympathetic to homosexuality or not this conversation isn't going to change anyone's mind.Lets move on to some stuff that really matters. Is it well written stylistically? HELLS YES. I've read so much stuff out there that is modeled almost exclusively after a romance novel that I can't stand it. Yes it is a romance in some ways but if you took that aspect out the rest of the book would still be damn solid.
Secondly, Clare's knowledge of mythology and languages is kind of amazing. She pulls from sources that you just don't see beyond master authors like Neil Gaiman, Terry Pratchett, Weis and Hickman etc. She takes classic stuff like vampirism and mixes it up and makes it new. The whole concept of Simon's existence as a daywalker is kind of brilliant.
There are so many things to love about this series. I get that you don't like the sexual aspects of the book but they are so mild comparatively to so much other stuff i've come across. They Bible is more racy in spots. Just chill. You don't like it. That's fine. Don't be a jerk about it.
Heather wrote: "Why don't we take a step back and really look at this book/series? First of all Clary is no more "whiny" than a lot of characters in a lot of books so i don't even consider that a valid point. Also..."
I agree completely!
I agree completely!
*Gloria* ~In The Clouds~ wrote: "Well, not to be rude or anything, but you could've said all of that stuff a lot nicer. How about you read the fucking book before you judge it?"
agreed. And I agree with Heather and Kristina too. Come on dude. This is a great series. If you dont like it, dont complain to us about it! Obviously this isnt the right type of book for you, if you cant even see what the characters think of each other. From what you write, it seems like you just read it from a far away place. reading the words, but not the actual emotions. I agree that it is a tad bit wrong about Clary and Jace loving each other when they are siblings, but..... Heather says all the rest for me....
agreed. And I agree with Heather and Kristina too. Come on dude. This is a great series. If you dont like it, dont complain to us about it! Obviously this isnt the right type of book for you, if you cant even see what the characters think of each other. From what you write, it seems like you just read it from a far away place. reading the words, but not the actual emotions. I agree that it is a tad bit wrong about Clary and Jace loving each other when they are siblings, but..... Heather says all the rest for me....
If you didn't like the book, don't read it... And if you really have read the books you'd know that Jace isn't ever her real brother so your argument, sir, is invalid. Second, Is there something wrong with gay love? I find nothing wrong with Alex and Magnus's relationship....How exactly is clary whiny? She no more of a whiny bitch than everyone else in the world. What do you consider a good book? Romeo and Juliet? "Classics"? Disgrace.
Sidrah wrote: "If you didn't like the book, don't read it... And if you really have read the books you'd know that Jace isn't ever her real brother so your argument, sir, is invalid. Second, Is there something wr..."Ok I finished the book. So you can stop hating me for that. Jace and Clary were in love with each other while they thought they were brother and sister. you don't think that is morally bankrupt? Alex and Magnus... 16 years is way to young to be in a relationship with a 600 year old man. Think about. What in the heck would they have in common? Case in point they are fighting a demon. A DEMON mind you that can kill them and what does Alex say, "Why didn't you call me?" are you kidding me? I'm thinking then and there that Magnus would realize he is having sex with a child and either let the dragon kill him or himself to end the misery. I read alot of things that I don't like, I made a promise to read this entire series... and I already purchased the books. Clary is whiny from the very beginning. Despite everyone willing to die for her she rarely steps up and takes responsibility for her actions. All she cares about is how the whole world and the whole supernatural world doesn't care for her. It is illogical.
There is nothing wrong with gay love, however, there is something terribly wrong with gay love with a senior citizen and a child which is pretty much what Alex is not by his age but by his actions.
A great book with a great moral play. How about Lord of The Rings? You want something more modern that is crazy good? Jim Butcher's Dresden files series. There are plenty of mixed relationships in that series but none of those come off as creepy.
Dale wrote: "Sidrah wrote: "If you didn't like the book, don't read it... And if you really have read the books you'd know that Jace isn't ever her real brother so your argument, sir, is invalid. Second, Is the..."Alec is 18 so he is technically an adult where on earth did you get 16 from?!
Ok. Jace and Clary were in love with each other. You wrote that yourself. Alex and Magnus too are in love with each other. I think that pretty much explains everything. The relationships are not creepy, but different. If you didn't like it you shouldn't use your time reading it, and definitely not trash it, when you know that there are people, who actually love these books. So your point is that this book is bad- to say it mildly. We've got your point. You keep your opinions to yourself, and stop reading it. People have different tastes. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean you should trash it in front of people, who like it.
Dale wrote: "Sidrah wrote: "If you didn't like the book, don't read it... And if you really have read the books you'd know that Jace isn't ever her real brother so your argument, sir, is invalid. Second, Is the..."He's 18, get your facts straight. I don't understand why you repetitively bash this series. We understand that you don't like it. Stop whining, complaining, and bitching. You are a grown man. Geez act your age! You don't understand that these are the kinds of books that teens read these days. It's paranormal and urban fantasy, two really popular genres.
Heather wrote: "Why don't we take a step back and really look at this book/series? First of all Clary is no more "whiny" than a lot of characters in a lot of books so i don't even consider that a valid point. Also, she's a TEENAGER! Everything is drama at that age. I think its a relatively accurate portrayal. "I can attest to that teenage drama stuff. It's true.
Rachel wrote: "Dale wrote: "Sidrah wrote: "If you didn't like the book, don't read it... And if you really have read the books you'd know that Jace isn't ever her real brother so your argument, sir, is invalid. S..."I Agree with you on that!
Dale: I guess Young Adults will gobble up anything with vampires, sister attraction, and gay love. Surprisingly there are a lot of young adults. and surprisingly not all of them have the same tastes. Just like not all 44 year olds read the same books. People are different. You shouldn't stigmatize people like that. Bottom line - your argument doesn't work. You guessed wrong.
Lily wrote: "Dale: I guess Young Adults will gobble up anything with vampires, sister attraction, and gay love. Surprisingly there are a lot of young adults. and surprisingly not all of them have the same tas..."
Good point Lily. I should just leave it at that. To each their own. Just my opinion. If you enjoyed the book great. I didn't. I guess cheesy young adult is not for me if it includes the over the top relationships like this. Plenty of books out there for me and for each of you. Enjoy your books and I'll find some that I can enjoy as well.
Clary, what does she do exactly? She's there but not doing much, I'm pretty sure Church does more than her."Not to be rude, but she does lots. Like killing a Ravener, rescuing Simon, organizing the attack with Luke to rescue Jace, getting him out of prison, destroying the damn ship, saving the entire Alicante because if not for her, they would never unite with Downworlders and therefore would have lost the battle immediately, then changing the runes so Valentine can't get what he wants from Raziel, saving Jace again, saving Simon...
Do I need to go on?
And see, the thing I find interesting is that most people complaining about YA series are adults in their thirties or forties. Now, of course you're entitled to read what you want, but...THE BOOK IS FOR TEENS. DUH...
So you probably stopped acting and thinking certain way like 20 or 30 years ago and now you can't remember why you acted or thought like that, so of course you don't have the thinking pattern of a teenager. Please have the decency not to go all "almighty and smarter-than-you adult" on us and trash the books we love.
After all, you don't see many teens reading stuff you usually do just so they can bash it left and right with
OMG how can you read it?
What's wrong with you?
etc.
Kristina wrote: "Clary, what does she do exactly? She's there but not doing much, I'm pretty sure Church does more than her."Not to be rude, but she does lots. Like killing a Ravener, rescuing Simon, organizing t..."
Let me repeat myself.
Good point Lily. I should just leave it at that. To each their own. Just my opinion. If you enjoyed the book great. I didn't. I guess cheesy young adult is not for me if it includes the over the top relationships like this. Plenty of books out there for me and for each of you. Enjoy your books and I'll find some that I can enjoy as well.
Kristina, just to correct your point since that was aimed at me directly, I'm not in my thirties nor am I in my forties, I'm sixteen. I read the series when I was fifteen, if anything I would say The Infernal Devices are much better in my point of view, but alas seemingly we must all believe the same believes about the characters in this book.
♏ ʊ я ґ α ⑂ wrote: "Kristina, just to correct your point since that was aimed at me directly, I'm not in my thirties nor am I in my forties, I'm sixteen. I read the series when I was fifteen, if anything I would say T..."No, no, no, the thing about age was not about you at all. About the person who started the discussion, actually. I'm sorry if it came across like that...
As for you, I just wanted to disagree about "Clary did nothing" part.
And for Alec dating magnus when Elec is younger..... I mean, come on its love. Its not something terrible, or bad, its just something that you arent used to. MAGNUS ISNT A FRICKIN SENIOR CITIZEN!!!!!!!!!!!! hes a spunky, amazing, hilarious warlock who looks like he is about 18 or twenty!!!!!! He acts very mature because he has knowledge from so many years, but it doesnt mean he has lost spirit because he is older than most people. He dating Alec is perfectly fine!
♏ ʊ я ґ α ⑂ wrote: "Kristina, just to correct your point since that was aimed at me directly, I'm not in my thirties nor am I in my forties, I'm sixteen. I read the series when I was fifteen, if anything I would say T..."That's because the Infernal Devices are much better!
I love the series. There is nothing wrong with the books. I agree that it is a little weird if you think about Magnus and Alec, but its love and they made their choice. When Alec kissed Magnus in front of everyone and told everyone that he is gay, he could have been disowned and that took a lot to go out there. Jace and Clary are meant to be so don't dis them. Jace would have gone after Clary even if they were brother and sister. That is love, and they didn't even have the slightest idea that they were brother and sister when they fell in love. I love the series!
Alec is 18, not 16. And fast forward till City of Lost Souls, you'll actually find out who's lusting on whose sister.I know all of us are entitled to our own opinions, sure you didn't like this series but it still appeals to some readers. There's actually more to it than what you have mentioned above. I love series so much, there's just something about the way that you get lost inside this world that CC had built. But hey, each of us have our own tastes. Maybe this is just not your cup of tea.
Nellie Odair Ψ wrote: "Alec is 18, not 16. And fast forward till City of Lost Souls, you'll actually find out who's lusting on whose sister.
I know all of us are entitled to our own opinions, sure you didn't like this s..."
hahah if my cousins read this they would love you. not because of everything because you said not your cup of tea.... they are 5.....and they always tell us to say something that we dont like, and they say " its not your cup of tea hahahhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaha"
I know all of us are entitled to our own opinions, sure you didn't like this s..."
hahah if my cousins read this they would love you. not because of everything because you said not your cup of tea.... they are 5.....and they always tell us to say something that we dont like, and they say " its not your cup of tea hahahhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaha"
Clara wrote: "Nellie Odair Ψ wrote: "Alec is 18, not 16. And fast forward till City of Lost Souls, you'll actually find out who's lusting on whose sister.I know all of us are entitled to our own opinions, sure..."
Haha that's cute :D I just happen to hear it at times but I guess me and your cousins like the phrase a lot xDD
Dale wrote: "Sebastian is right. Clary is freaking annoying, whining bitch. Jace is lusting over his own sister. Alex a 16 year old boy is in love with a 600 year old man. Not only creepy but perverse. Cassandr..."I read the series, enjoyed it, but still understand what you are saying. It's just one of those series which has everything teen girls love or can't help but love. It's depressing what we (teen girls) find enjoyable in a book, I admit that. I've been in love with enough books which after further reflection, weren't very good but they still had a hold on me.
Dale wrote: "Kristina wrote: "Clary, what does she do exactly? She's there but not doing much, I'm pretty sure Church does more than her."Not to be rude, but she does lots. Like killing a Ravener, rescuing Si..."
Look the thing is that it's ok not to like it and to express your opinion, but it's not ok to insult the other ones that did like the series.
I don't see the love between Jace and Clary so out there and shocking or sickening because they were not raised together as siblings. Your sibling is the one you grow up with. Alec being in love (at first) with Jace is more incestual to me.
Regarding Magnus and Alec, well as someone pointed out, Magnus look 18/20 so is not that creepy (from Alec point of view at least) and almost every vampire story deals with this age issue (Angel/Buffy; vampire diaries)
And finally, if you don't like this kind of writing, the best way for you to stand against it is not to read them, because you're contributing to it success.
Dale, first this is young adult book, and you are not even from this century. if you don't like this book, keep your hate to yourself, you're wasting precious oxygen
Well Clary might come across that way but I don't really agree I mean she seems like a pretty chipper person and she just wants to help others and SEBASTIAN IS EVIL! So i find his point is a bit muddled by the demon blood inside of him and anyways want to talk about pinning over sisters is Clary's real sibling so he knew and he had no problem kissing her like she did him and Clary and Jace we're already into each other before they knew so why would you judge them for an honest mistake that really was a mistake seeing as though they aren't related. Clary doesnt even know about her powers not really and she doesnt have all the powers of an angel and also she's not that afraid of her shadow not really except the first book after that she kind of grows a pair. (SARCASM IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN) Oh and yes all girls in America can so relate to Clary I mean we're all snarky smart asses and we all want to secretly date our brothers why not you know if they're hot enough. (ENOUGH SARCASM) In the first book she is terrified but she does suck it up enough to actually "get it done" Thanks for you time guys :D
Wendy wrote: "I don't see the love between Jace and Clary so out there and shocking or sickening because they were not raised together as siblings. Your sibling is the one you grow up with. Alec being in love (at first) with Jace is more incestual to me."I agree with that. The only reason being genetic siblings would matter (in this situation, IMO) would be if they planned to have children, which they could just not do.
I agree with you for the most part. It is quite sick, however, I adore shadowhunters.
Dale wrote: "Sebastian is right. Clary is freaking annoying, whining bitch. Jace is lusting over his own sister. Alex a 16 year old boy is in love with a 600 year old man. Not only creepy but perverse. Cassandr..."i disagree with EVERYTHING you say. firstly if someday a person comes to know that his girlfriend is his sister you dont frikin expect him to turn all brotherly towards her, uts not humanly possible, not in a few months atleast, like in the book. clary is pretty good herself. not as good as katniss, because "katniss" spent her childhood hunrting and clary did NOT! she painted. not her fault, and if u suddenly introduce a person into a world of demons and kidnap her mom, anyone would make mistakes. even she does, but she's good. she doesnt jump into fights nor does she just sit back. SHE DOES HER BEST.
AND yes it is creepy for a 16 going on 600. ihate that couple.
AND ITS FICTION GODDAMMIT!
so stop complaining about it so much! relax and enjoy the book, if u don't like it don't read the series. nobody's forcing you to!
and if u think sebastian is right (gags) then read on till the city of lost souls. you'll see what kind of a person u r agreeing with.
and like some body said b4, this book is for teens. my ma read it and she found it average.
SO PLEASE STOP RANTING.
its a request. and no hard feelings.
just defending my fave book! :)
Dale wrote: "Sebastian is right. Clary is freaking annoying, whining bitch. Jace is lusting over his own sister. Alex a 16 year old boy is in love with a 600 year old man. Not only creepy but perverse. Cassandr..."I agree with you on the clary thing for the first book but since then she has done ALOT
and Alex is 18
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*Gloria* ~In The Clouds~ wrote: "Well, not to be rude or anything, but you could've said all of that stuff a lot nicer. How about you read the fucking book before you judge it?"I agree... plus it sounds like you're an older guy, that likes to judge a 'teen\young addtult book' before you actauly finshes it. And unlike you the resion why we like it is becuase it's a good story line and it has a lot of action in it which most teen books don't have a lot of anymore. MOST teen books are about love trangles and mushy stuff like that. Were as this is NOTHING LIKE THOSE OTHER TEEN BOOKS! Yes their is love\lust in it but not as much as a normal teen book useally has. Not to minchen that this is Fiction, it's not real. Even if some of it is kinda messed up it never happened and Never will happen in real life. So stop dissing it already!
Well, maybe all the Young Adults will end up reading A Song of Ice and Fire, which isn't a bad thing since it's one of the best serie ever published...actual incest, violence, murder, rape...and STILL great.As someone said, a good book has nothing to do with moral, so please don't point out the not-even-real incest and pedophilia thing like it's all the book is about. I can agree with some of your arguments, I read it when it was first released and re-reading it now I'm not enjoying it like the first time (ehi, people just grow), but, as all the Net could tell you, "it's still a better lovestory than Twilight" xD
I didn't realise that there was a mandate out that we all had to be "nice" about these books? Seriously, I don't diss on you cos you think they are the best books ever written, so please do me the courtesy of not screaming at me and others who believe that they are most certainly NOT.I enjoyed them well enough but can agree with points made by both sides. On a comparative scale, they truly are rubbish but there is nothing wrong with that or ejoying some mindless YA, supernatural waffle when we live in a world with such horrific realities going on around us. Its a form of harmless escapism and I thank Ms Clare for that.
I don't really think popular books mean good books.If that is the standard, should we name 50 Shades of Grey as a better series? That erotic series (originally wrote as Twilight's fanfic) sold 70 millions copies. Book 1 is still on Amazon's 20 best seller books.
Ok I seriously think people are being WAY too literal about the whole Alec and Magnus thing. First off, where the hell are you going to find a 600 year old warlock in real life? It's a fictional book. And it's one where there are immortals are displayed in it. What did you expect for immortals to go off with other immortals? In real life that would be considered very stereotypical. And if you really wanted to get literal, Alec is 18 so that makes him legal to date who ever the hell he wants. Do you really plan on enforcing a law that states that an 18 year old can't date a 600 year old? I think not because stuff like that doesn't happen in real life. That's why we read books so we can escape reality and go to a place where the impossible becomes possible. You also see in other books like Eragon, Lord of the Rings, Twilight and many others where immortals go off with mortals. I don't see anyone bagging those books.Anyways, I just think that people are taking these books way to seriously. If you give it a chance and if you actually put yourself in the characters shoes you will understand the choices they made in the certain situations they get into. Can you honestly expect for Clary and Jace to just turn off their feelings for each other when they found out they were brother and sister. Even in real life that's physically impossible. You can't help who you fall in love with.
And btw, it's fiction. Not real life.
Okay, so, honestly, I have to agree with what Sebastian said about Jace. Honestly, I don't mind this series. Jace, however, is my main issue and I cannot stand him. He is literally an asshole about everything. If it's not the unfunny jokes he makes after certain events, like a funeral, it's the fact that he's a douche to everyone he knows and yet the author insists on letting everyone be absorbed by him. I can't stand moments of this series for that reason. He hurts his "friends" feelings for no reason and all they do is adore and help him. Even Simon.Clary is alright. She's a little reckless and bows to Jace's whims, but that's like a thing through this whole series. However, as regards to Alec and Magnus, I don't find anything wrong with their relationship.
First off, Magnus is like 800 or something. Sure. I don't know if 800 year olds act like Magnus, obviously, but I'd hardly consider it as pro-pedophile. Alec is 18. Of legal age. It's fiction, so I can give some leeway to this whole huge age gap that would never happen in real life. But I do not think there is anything wrong with their relationship on a moral scale. Gay, sure, I don't mind. And hey, you know what, I wouldn't even care if an 18 year old dude wants to date a 50 year old dude. If they're in love, they're in love. He's of age, and it's his business and decision.
People don't understand how hard it is to fall in love with someone you have to hide from the world. The hate and the pointing fingers, the inability to even hold hands down a sidewalk without nerves of steel. It's so terribly tragic, and straight couples should cherish the PDA they are allowed.
We all have differentiating opinions. I try to be somewhat kind about mine, and I mean no direct offense to people who like this book. (Unless, of course, I'm ranting in a review. You may not want to read that.) TMI fans deserve respect, as do 50 Shades readers, Twilight, whatever. Try not to hurt anyone's feelings if you can help it.
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♥Courtney♥ Ƨнα∂σωκιƨƨɛ∂4ɛʌɛя ♊ wrote: "Ok I seriously think people are being WAY too literal about the whole Alec and Magnus thing. First off, where the hell are you going to find a 600 year old warlock in real life? It's a fictional bo..."THANK YOU!!!!
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How can anyone rate this book 5 star with quality books actually out there? I guess Young Adults will gobble up anything with vampires, sister attraction, and gay love. Maybe the girls out there are relating to Clary? Not sure but she is an anti hero if you ask me. The power of an angel and afraid of her own shadow. Granted facts are unveiled later on to change some of the above situations but it doesn't change the fact that they were lusting in the knowledge that they had. Creepy creepy creepy. Why am I not surprised that Hollywood is championing this book into a movie?