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So-called "classic" books that I hate, hate, hate!
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Mr Khairul,
Don't know what to say, because all of the titles listed above still on my to-read shelf.
Maybe you're not destined to be fan of classic works, because most of the books you mentioned were internationally acclaimed among the best. All of the experts on literary works couldn't be wrong, but you cannot be wrong yourself because all of us will at last succumb to our 'programmed' tastes.
Don't know what to say, because all of the titles listed above still on my to-read shelf.
Maybe you're not destined to be fan of classic works, because most of the books you mentioned were internationally acclaimed among the best. All of the experts on literary works couldn't be wrong, but you cannot be wrong yourself because all of us will at last succumb to our 'programmed' tastes.
Haiya Mr Khairul H.
Saya baru berangan nak baca Anna Karenina tu. The reason I've been putting it off is due to its thickness. I don't have such patience to endure such a thick, classic books, unless it's very interesting and really un-put-downable. Nevertheless, I will read it one day, eventually...
Count of Monte Cristo? Huh, lucky me. I read the revised version - meant for young readers ;-p
Saya baru berangan nak baca Anna Karenina tu. The reason I've been putting it off is due to its thickness. I don't have such patience to endure such a thick, classic books, unless it's very interesting and really un-put-downable. Nevertheless, I will read it one day, eventually...
Count of Monte Cristo? Huh, lucky me. I read the revised version - meant for young readers ;-p
Uhh.. I always wanted to watch La Miserables back those days but to read.. urgh.. I'd watched Phantom though. That was quite nice. Perhaps Victor Hugo's were meant to be more enjoyable as plays..heheh
At least you've read them all before coming up with all the conclusions. I haven't read even half of what you've listed up there.
Christmas Carol was nice but I actually listened to the audio book. Kira bacalah tu, kan.
Edit: Oh sorry. Phantom was actually by Gaston Leroux. I take back my first statement. TQ.
At least you've read them all before coming up with all the conclusions. I haven't read even half of what you've listed up there.
Christmas Carol was nice but I actually listened to the audio book. Kira bacalah tu, kan.
Edit: Oh sorry. Phantom was actually by Gaston Leroux. I take back my first statement. TQ.
Bunnybaby, it's thick because Tolstoy goes on and on and on and on and on about every minute detail. A character enters a room? Expect 10 pages of Tolstoy describing everything in that room from the curtains to the furniture to the floor.
A character puts on a dress? Another 10 pages of where that dress came from, how it was made, where it was bought, how it fit.
No wonder the book is thick!
A character puts on a dress? Another 10 pages of where that dress came from, how it was made, where it was bought, how it fit.
No wonder the book is thick!
Khairul H. wrote: "Bunnybaby, it's thick because Tolstoy goes on and on and on and on and on about every minute detail. A character enters a room? Expect 10 pages of Tolstoy describing everything in that room from th..."
I went drop dead asleep after numerous attempts of reading Anna Karenina.
I went drop dead asleep after numerous attempts of reading Anna Karenina.
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Najibah wrote: Maybe you're not destined to be fan of classic works, because most of the books you mentioned..."
Don't get me wrong. I don't hate all classic books. But just because they were written 100-200 years ago doesn't mean they must be good. I like Mark Twain's work, for example.
My point is, just because a lot of people regard these works as 'Literature', we should not follow them blindly. Read them first and judge for ourselves. I did. I hated some (listed above) and liked others.
Don't get me wrong. I don't hate all classic books. But just because they were written 100-200 years ago doesn't mean they must be good. I like Mark Twain's work, for example.
My point is, just because a lot of people regard these works as 'Literature', we should not follow them blindly. Read them first and judge for ourselves. I did. I hated some (listed above) and liked others.
Khairul H. wrote: "Bunnybaby, it's thick because Tolstoy goes on and on and on and on and on about every minute detail. A character enters a room? Expect 10 pages of Tolstoy describing everything in that room from th..."
Wo ho ho! That sounds very much like a female author that I've come across once or twice (I don't remember who but not a classic book author). It never occured to me that a male author, or perhaps in this case it's only Tolstoy, is prone to writing such a lengthy detail.
Thanks to that tip-off, I might reconsider my intention to read Anna Karenina. Kwang kwang kwang!
Wo ho ho! That sounds very much like a female author that I've come across once or twice (I don't remember who but not a classic book author). It never occured to me that a male author, or perhaps in this case it's only Tolstoy, is prone to writing such a lengthy detail.
Thanks to that tip-off, I might reconsider my intention to read Anna Karenina. Kwang kwang kwang!
Khairul H. wrote: "Najibah wrote: Maybe you're not destined to be fan of classic works, because most of the books you mentioned..."
Don't get me wrong. I don't hate all classic books. But just because they were wr..."
Guess I'd need to find some really lengthy time to read them first then and make due judgment :)
Don't get me wrong. I don't hate all classic books. But just because they were wr..."
Guess I'd need to find some really lengthy time to read them first then and make due judgment :)
Najibah wrote: "Khairul H. wrote: "Najibah wrote: Maybe you're not destined to be fan of classic works, because most of the books you mentioned..."
Don't get me wrong. I don't hate all classic books. But just bec..."
So many books, so little time!!
Don't get me wrong. I don't hate all classic books. But just bec..."
So many books, so little time!!

The Count of Monte Cristo is by Dumas, not Hugo. ;) Maybe it's also a translation thing. I have some online friends who swear it makes a difference. Read it in the original language if you can, they say, but, alas, I can't read French. I've never read the unabridged version (very hazy memory of the abridged version I did read) and I was thinking of giving it another shot.
Haven't read any of the other books.
Classics I've intensely disliked would include Stephen Crane's The Red Badge of Courage (...which war was this again?); one of Hemingway's books (I hated it so much I forgot its title -- I think it was Islands in the Stream -- too long and boring and I didn't know what was going on); H Rider Haggard's King Solomon's Mines (I can't even remember why I didn't like this one).

Though, I'd still read 'em. I'd even read War & Peace if I could ever find the time to. I might like it... Well, I don't hate Jane Austen - But it was mighty hard to read it! I mean, the language was like ancient. I'm like... What? And had to keep on reading the same paragraph a couple of times just to understand what on earth was going on. Maybe I'm just slow hahah...
Still... Yup... Shakespeare - can't hate him. Hate those who turned his plays into books lol. It was written as a play! A play!
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Jack wrote: I just find what Khairul had wrote hilarious.
Thank you. I aim to please ;)
I decided some years back to just watch the movie adaptations of classic books and after that I'll try to read the source material. That way, I will have the movie version in my mind and can picture it as I'm reading the book. I find it helps my sanity through the boring passages (Tolstoy, I'm looking at you!)
Thank you. I aim to please ;)
I decided some years back to just watch the movie adaptations of classic books and after that I'll try to read the source material. That way, I will have the movie version in my mind and can picture it as I'm reading the book. I find it helps my sanity through the boring passages (Tolstoy, I'm looking at you!)

lol.
I am so not a classic fan. The only book from your list that I've read is A Christmas Carol. And I didn't even finish it.
I read Victor Hugo's Hunchback of Notre Dame about 4 years ago, so I don't really remember much. I remember thinking the story was interesting, so very different from the Disney version (well, that's not really surprising isn't it?), but I can't remember exactly why I didn't finish it. I THINK it was because I borrowed the book from my school library and I didn't have time to finish it within the given borrowing period. But of course, it could also be because of the author's unfortunate diarrhea :)
Well, of course it's different in the Disney version. Esmeralda and the Hunchback die in the end. Can't have that in the cartoon. The kids will cry!


I love Anna Karenina!
I love Dickens! Bleak House was good! (Christmas Carol included)
I love anything Austen (Jane), anything Alcott (Louisa May).
And yes, I READ SHAKESPEARE and love his plays, his sonnets, whathaveyou.
I do, however, have thoughts about more contemporary authors. Heller's Catch-22 was pure hell. But I finished it anyway (with grit in my eye and a thorn in my side haha), and if I ever needed a fire, it'd be the first to go.
Lain orang lain rasa la... :) Tak kira whether klasik ke tak, kalau tak menepati citarasa seseorang, then well, tidak la.. what can you do?
hey, catch-22 was great. The wordplay and satirical look at war was sharp.
Dang you for reading Shakespeare! Dang you to heck!
Dang you for reading Shakespeare! Dang you to heck!

I decided some years back to just watch the movie adaptations of classic books and after that I'll try to read the source material. That way, I will have the movie version in my mind and can picture it as I'm reading the book. I find it helps my sanity through the boring passages (Tolstoy, I'm looking at you!)"
Hahah... I suppose I have to raid the DVD store first. Classic was never much of my favourite genre. I just read it for fun though. How on earth I came up with the idea of classic and fun in the same context I have no idea. I suppose, I just like reading much too much for my own good.
Oh dear... Poor Tolstoy
Kataklicik wrote: "AIYOOOO....
I love Anna Karenina!
I love Dickens! Bleak House was good! (Christmas Carol included)
I love anything Austen (Jane), anything Alcott (Louisa May).
And yes, I READ SHAKESPEA..."
Haah la! I love Jane Austen, too. Tapi takpelah Khairul. One man's meat is another man's poison...
I love Anna Karenina!
I love Dickens! Bleak House was good! (Christmas Carol included)
I love anything Austen (Jane), anything Alcott (Louisa May).
And yes, I READ SHAKESPEA..."
Haah la! I love Jane Austen, too. Tapi takpelah Khairul. One man's meat is another man's poison...

Saya tahu la folder ni pasal klasik yg kita tak berkenan, tapi saya nak mention jugak lah yg saya peminat setia kitab Sejarah Melayu. Betul!!
Yang lain tu, payah nak paham (yg Melayu lama lah).
:D memang confirm dah tua (statement tua lagi ni, bunnybaby! hahaha)

Yang peliknya, saya suka pulak Count of Monte Cristo, bila banding dengan filem, saya lagi suka bukunya..(ish, lama gak la nak habiskan satu buku ni)
Pasal klasik Melayu yang berkenan eh..
Hikayat Panji Semirang. Suka gila cerita ni, pasal puteri yang menyamar jadi putera. Siap berangan, kalau pandai lukis komik boleh jadi cerita yang best nih!
Saya baca ni lama dulu (mak saya punya buku sekolah, dah habis kena makan anai-anai), tapi sekarang nak cari buku ni punyalah susah.. Isk
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That is the cover to Pride and Prejudice and Zombies. I don't know if it's already available here (I bought mine from Amazon). It's Jane Austen's novel re-written to include a zombie attack. I've been told it also has ninjas.
Zombies + Ninjas + Ms. Elizabeth Bennet + Mr. Darcy = I LOVE THIS BOOK!

Dua tiga hari lepas waktu saya jumpa, saya ambil, baca muka pertama..hm..letak balik.
Tak yah baca novel tu. Buang oksigen je. 20 tahun dulu Marvel Comics ada buat adaptasi buku-buku klasik ke dalam bentuk komik dengan lukisan yg agak menarik. Moby Dick dilukis dgn cara 'watercolour' oleh Bill Sienkewicz, kalau tak silap. Medium komik pun tak boleh menarik minat saya kpd cerita ikan paus tu walaupun saya hantu komik dan ia dilukis oleh seorang pelukis komik terkenal.


That is the cover to Pride and Prejudice and Zombies. I don't know if it's already available here (I bought mine from Amazon). It's Jane Auste..."
Biar betul? ni orang saja2 buat guarauan atau adakah ini gurauan yg benar-benar serius?
Buku betul. Parody of P&P but with zombies....and ninjas.
WARNING: requires a sense of humour to enjoy this book.
WARNING: requires a sense of humour to enjoy this book.

Saya baru berangan nak baca Anna Karenina tu. The reason I've been putting it off is due to its thickness. I don't have such patience to endure such a thick, classic books, unl..."
Bunnybaby, me too! Read it when I was in Standard 4, if I'm not mistaken and the best part, it was a translated version. Count Monte Cristo in Malay!
Norain MT wrote: "I love Dickens :) Train your patience even when reading. Ahah!"
I'll just watch the tv adaptations. Much better. They cut out the unnecessary parts and go straight to the meat of the story.
I'll just watch the tv adaptations. Much better. They cut out the unnecessary parts and go straight to the meat of the story.

Me so hates Hemingway's The Old Man and The Sea. Boring zzzzzz.
I even tried the audiobook but meh...
I suggest for those who would like to put their hands on classics to read young readers's, like Wilde's short stories etc.
Kataklicik...I like and read Shakespeare tooo...hehe...
I went to As You Like It play and was really glad that I, who barely build a perfect English sentence had 'read' the 'play' beforehand. My Danish friend complained that he didn't really understand half of the dialogs, fortunately it was a joy to watch.
Oh well...actually I love reading plays. I remember how I really enjoy reading the compulsory plays as a high schooler.
cikyah75 wrote: "Bunnybaby, me too! Read it when I was in Standard 4, if I'm not mistaken and the best part, it was a translated version. Count Monte Cristo in Malay!"
Cik Yah, I read Count Monte Cristo in abridged version, taadaa! Or to be more specific, the version is simplified for children, hee hee hee! And so is Jane Eyre.
Cik Yah, I read Count Monte Cristo in abridged version, taadaa! Or to be more specific, the version is simplified for children, hee hee hee! And so is Jane Eyre.

I prefer descriptive prose yang membuai jiwa (MUAHAHAHAHAHA! how jiwang is that..?!)

I wonder why I'm okay with jiwang mat saleh but couldn't stand jiwang BM eh?
I like plays because of the simplicity, no need of extra explanations and use of imagination. Kalau bab imagine2 and dreaming2 ni memang A lah saya...haha.... I remember the first play I read waaay back in middle school was Allahyarham Shaharom Hussain's Si Bongkok Tanjung Puteri. Speaking of which, that can be considered one of Malay classics right? Manalah nak cari buku tu lagi...

Si Bongkok yang legenda orang Johor tu kan? Rasa rindu pula dengan kisah dongeng dan cerita rakyat Melayu.
Sekarang sedang mengumpul fairy tales dan folklore negara orang. Insya-Allah, nak juga kumpul kisah hikayat Melayu.

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Haha well quoted peesha, just want to add:
“A classic is something that everybody wants to have read and nobody wants to read.” - Mark Twain.

Me too.. I try to read Emma.. Hate myself of buying the book..

The lines are too difficult to digest. Brain stuck, I guess. At first, it was fine but the further I went, I was lost in the middle of words. Haha...

You bought a book? I bought the entire Jane Austen collection. Guess that I'll keep it for my guests that come visiting me at home. Hihihi...
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Moby Dick - Did you know that when this book was first published, it was a commercial failure? I'm not surprised. Plodding narrative about an obsessed sea dog seeking revenge on a whale with a pigmentation deficiency. It should be a cracker of a book but it isn't. "Call me Ishmael." No, I won't. Instead I'll call you a waste of time.
Anna Karenina - Or anything by Tolstoy, really. Tolstoy is literary cancer. I call him that based entirely on one reason: Anna Karenina. Why do people enjoy this turgid, over-long soap-opera? I am shocked by the praise this gets from other, better novelists. Why is it that Dostoevsky praised this work? Dostoevsky, who undoubtly wrote shopping lists more enjoyable than Anna Karenina? I would rather trim Rosmah Mansur's sweaty armpit hair than subject myself to this book again. It is so dry and so boring that the justification for its praise is beyond me.
Anything by Charles Dickens except 'A CHRISTMAS CAROL' - When Chucky D. wrote his stuff, they were serialised weekly (or was it monthly?) in a magazine, chapter by chapter. The man wasn't a novelist per se. He was a serial writer. He got paid by the word and it shows. He also needed to make his thinly plotted stories stretch for as long as possible because once the story ended, he wasn't getting paid by the magazine anymore. That's why most of his stories feel like they were unnecessarily padded by subplots and segues. Because they were! He was a short story writer who needed to write longer stories to feed his family.
I exclude A Christmas Carol from my hate because the Muppets did a version of it. If the Muppets approve I can't really disagree, can I?
Les Miserables - Or anything by Victor Hugo (see Tolstoy above). Hugo must have had writer's diarrhea. It's a condition that makes you use 100 words to describe something that can be describe in 10 words. You want to enjoy Les Mis? Go watch the musical instead. You'll thank me later.
(Count of Monte Cristo should have been a joy to read, and especially relevant to M'sians: an innocent man falsely accused by his friends because of their jealousy and persecuted by a corrupt judge, he escapes prison after 20 years and seeks revenge? Heck, yeah! But Hugo's writer's diarrhea makes reading it a chore).
Catcher In The Rye - a dumb punk suburban kid with no real problems whines for several hundred pages about his non-problems, goes to a prostitute, gets hit on by a drunk, watches his sister on a merry-go-round and therefore ends up in a mental institution. HUH ?
I hated Holden, I hated his whiney attitude, I hated his complete lack of anything remotely resembling actual problems and the over-the-top angsty whining about them. I kept wanting to reach into the book and say "Grow up, you idiot--go read Ellison's Invisible Man if you want to talk about how tough life is."
God in Heaven knows how much I hate that book.
There are a few more but I think I'll stop here. Writing this list has made me remember those books again and is making my blood pressure rise.
Oh, before I forget: I will never include the works of Shakespeare in this list because he wrote plays that were meant to be performed and watched. Not read. The man did not write novels. That is why I don't hate his books because he never wrote any books. You are not supposed to read Shakespeare.