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I have to agree that "favorite character" doesn't have to equate with "main character." Nor is "expected to die in the finale" an out.Jonathon getting killed in Buffy was a shocker for me. (Fortunately he was reincarnated as Doyle in Gilmore Girls, where he was equally nebbishly brilliant.)
Fred getting killed in Angel. Daaaamn.
Tara in Buffy.
Penny in Dr. Horrible.
Wash AND Book in Serenity.
Kitty Pryde in Astonishing X-Men.
Joe Informatico wrote: "Rik wrote: "People keep saying that Whedon kills off favorite characters? Huh?I can only think of three important, non bad guy, characters in Buffy that he killed off..."
...followed by three p..."
My point is that hardly anyone in fact actually died. It wasn't hemming and hawing, it was proving my point that his death rate is highly overrated. His total sum of killed characters would only be a season of Lost or a chapter or two of a George RR Martin book.
Trike wrote: "I have to agree that "favorite character" doesn't have to equate with "main character." Nor is "expected to die in the finale" an out.Jonathon getting killed in Buffy was a shocker for me. (Fortu..."
He didn't kill Kitty Pryde in Astonishing X-men. He trapped her inside a giant dildo rocketing through space and not long after that Magneto pulled it back to Earth and got her out. It wasn't even an implied death, it was just a sidelining of the character for a while. Everyone knew she was alive and the only question was how she'd come back. Myself, I figured that since a bunch of the X-men like Havok and Polaris were in space with the Starjammers at the time that she'd end up with them.
Trike wrote: "Brian wrote: "I loved the Red Wedding in the books and I loved it in the TV show. Martin goes where most authors in the "gritty" genre should but don't."You should read the Deryni Chronicles by ..."Deryni Chronicles, eh? Might just check that out. Thanks.
The thing about 95 percent of most fantasy stories is that there's nothing to really worry about. When the hero gets in a lot of trouble, you just know he or she is going to come out of it all okay, so you don't really worry.Well, G.R.R. doesn't play that game. Everybody is at risk, and I dig that!
Ianto Jones in Torchwood. Four years later and I still haven't gotten over that one.Hell, Tosh and Owen from Torchwood as well. Unnecessary deaths.
I can only think of three important, non bad guy, characters in Buffy that he killed off..."
...followed by three paragraphs of hemming and hawing that a half-dozen characters who appeared regularly over the course of one to four seasons weren't actually important or anybody's favourites. If your argument requires that many caveats, it's probably not as strong as you think.