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What an interesting conversation this is! I'm personally in agreement -- a mix is most fascinating and compelling (and realistic) to me. But oh my -- so many women seem to love their Alphas (in their reading, anyway).
You're right, Laura, women do seem to love their males alpha (in literature). But I'm curious, who's the most desirable hero you've ever read? Jamey in Outlander by Diana Gabledon, is my fav, but he's younger than the heroine and he's macho without being rough.
Elf wrote: "Jeff, are you with me on this; I feel sorry for any male categorized by that chart. None of them sounds appealing to me.You're right, Mary Anne, a mix is what's needed, or else men would be a cap..."
Hello Elf, Well let's see. I might have to throw my own characteristics for a comparison. But let's start with the posted list.
The first flaw would be the Omega male.Alpha—beginning, Omega—ending. I don't see how an Omega would basically be a slug. Don't think the Greeks would agree with this.
Alpha: I might agree with this as it is the beginning and if one strongly believes in the Bible, it's a fit.
Now, the others appear to be fillers for a Phd dissertation. I remember sitting in what they called a "Partnering Meeting" on a construction project. The gal teaching it (Phd from Nebraska) started going through our "classifications" and said a Type A personality didn't like to read. "What did she say?" I raised my hand, actually, I interrupted her dissemination and informed her, her theory was WRONG! Yes, everyone got quiet and my female colleague suggested I be quiet. AH, NO! I debated the topic with great enthusiasm and gusto. In the end, she relinquished her stance, deciding she needed more research material. Seriously, I have a book collection on WWII many libraries will enjoy someday.
Back on point, do I think the chart is comical? Yes. Is it relevant? No. But,it makes for a fun discussion.
Okay, for those who read the chart, what category would I fit into. There are no wrong answers. However, while you check the charts and make a list, how would you categorize woman characters who have a parallel role with (using the chart) Alpha males for husbands but never lose their identity or ferocity?
They know when to talk and when to readjust their mates viewpoints. I can supply a sample if you'd like.
Now, how's that categorizing going?
Brigitte wrote: "Duchess Nicole wrote: "Hi there Vashni! I'm an alpha loving woman, too...In books, anyways. Love a pushy man. If you've never read Kristen Asnley, she's the queen of Alpha males. I'm not sure I..."Hiya, Brigitte. From a reader standpoint, I take the meaning of gamma to mean that the "hero" of a book is sort of off to the side, standoffish, unfeeling, uncaring, aloof...that sort of thing. They tend to be the assassins or mercenaries in Romantic suspense novels, or that type of guy. The reason that I tend to love them, however, is because I tend to love a book or series in which there is a ton of character development throughout the story arc. Example: The Fever Series by Karen Marie Moning...Jericho Barrons is NOT a nice guy. He uses people as a means to an end, even the heroine, Mac. Until he starts to see who Mac is as a woman and he starts having feelings for her, then he sort of has this paradigm shift. Maybe the only people who can see the difference in this gamma type hero are the readers and his woman, but it's there...he ends up being changed for the better because he learned that there is something out there more important than himself.
However, I tend to hesitate in recommending some of my favorite books such as
Because I know that a lot of women may find this type of hero offensive. Whereas the alpha is perhaps more blatantly offensive because he's so vocally bossy and pushy, the gamma is sort of quietly aloof and almost selfish.
This is just my take on the gamma hero. I don't do a lot of research or anything, so you can totally ignore that. It seems that this group has a lot of authors, so they stick to the facts. And I do not, lol!!! I may spout complete nonsense sometimes so it may be a good thing that they are here to correct me.
Elf, to answer your question, I cannot pick a favorite. Of course! But, if pressed, then I'm going to have to go old school on you and say my all-time favorite hero/hunk is Mr. Darcy of Pride and Prejudice. I love that man. I love, love, love, love, love that man.
What about Captain Wentworth in Persuasion? I just recently read it and wow, his dialogue is so very quote-able!!!
Duchess Nicole wrote: "What about Captain Wentworth in Persuasion? I just recently read it and wow, his dialogue is so very quote-able!!!"I love Captain Wentworth! (and pretty much all of Austen's main male characters lol)
But Darcy's such a stick in the mud! Colin Firth, yes, but Darcy himself takes some getting used to.
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You're right, Mary Anne, a mix is what's needed, or else men would be a capital drag.