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message 1: by Marla (new)

Marla | 27 comments Looking for sci fic reader to hopefully help me find the name of a book!
Trying to find a book my brother read and can't remember the title. Galactic civilization has failed. Many different cultures traveling on an advanced spaceship. He thinks the ship is called "the Infinity Ship". One line from the book he remembers is "So now the monster is me"


message 2: by Kris (new)

Kris | 54961 comments Mod
We by Yevgeny Zamyatin? The spaceship is called the Integral.


message 3: by Marla (new)

Marla | 27 comments Sadly not the right book :( However "We" DOES sound like a great book for me lol!! Thanks anyway.


message 4: by Angharad (new)

Angharad | 98 comments Revelation Space has a ship called "Nostalgia for Infinity," although the other plot details don't sound promising.


message 5: by Marla (new)

Marla | 27 comments Drat! Not that one either :( Thanks though.


message 6: by Ann aka Iftcan (new)

Ann aka Iftcan (iftcan) | 6917 comments Mod
About how long ago did your brother read his book Burnt? And did he think it was new or older or even OLD then?

I am almost positive that I remember that book, but it was a LONG time ago, if it is the same one. (By a long time ago, I mean late 60's to the 80's.) And it could have been even older than that when it was published.


message 7: by Marla (new)

Marla | 27 comments Well he regularly buys books from thrift stores so it could be an older book.


message 8: by Marla (new)

Marla | 27 comments I spoke to my brother and he did remember something else but it may not be much help. He says ther w2as, amoung the many different cultures aboard the ship, a caveman or similar character. I hope someone can help me find this for my brother.


message 9: by Kris (new)

Kris | 215 comments Your comment made me think of Waiting for the Galactic Bus by Parke Godwin.. but I don't think it's the one you are looking for, since it involves extraterrestrials coming to Earth and providing the impetuous to create religion.


message 10: by Marla (new)

Marla | 27 comments drat :( Sounds like a good book though :) Thanks.


message 11: by Kris (new)

Kris | 215 comments It is!

Well if you like very broad biting satire


message 12: by Marla (new)

Marla | 27 comments lol I think I will like it a lot!!


Justanotherbiblophile | 1814 comments Brian W Aldiss' _Non-Stop_ has a generation ship.


message 14: by Marla (new)

Marla | 27 comments Thanks I'll check that out.


message 15: by Marla (new)

Marla | 27 comments Sorry not that one either :( Thanks though. I wish he could remember a name or something else from the book. It just isn't much to go on.


message 16: by Justanotherbiblophile (last edited May 25, 2013 09:14PM) (new)

Justanotherbiblophile | 1814 comments Here's another large Dyson sphere that I think this request is not. Shaw's _Orbitsville_ (also a trilogy)

Another bunch of books that I suspect it is not, but does involve a generation ship ("Whorl") is the award-winning & acclaimed Solar Cycle by Gene Wolfe: The Book of the New Sun (4 vols) The Book of the Long Sun (4 vols) & The Book of the Short Sun.

Heinlein's _Orphans of the Sky_ has a generation ship named "Vanguard" (which was rarely used in the book), but is also not the book you're looking for.


message 17: by Marla (last edited May 25, 2013 05:58PM) (new)

Marla | 27 comments Thanks sweetie Ill check those out! They sound interesting enough to add to my booklist lol


message 18: by Douglas (new)

Douglas (idahojones) | 2 comments Destination: Void", by Frank Herbert. Although the monster is the ship.


message 19: by Marla (new)

Marla | 27 comments He says its definately not a generation ship, and there are not very many people on the ship together. Maybe just a handfull.


message 20: by Justanotherbiblophile (last edited May 26, 2013 10:05PM) (new)

Justanotherbiblophile | 1814 comments Okay, so all of these cultures have been recently taken on-board this ship?

There's _Manhattan Transfer_, but for some species/cultures that ship was a generation ship.... And I don't recall that line anywhere in there, nor were there any cavemen (were these cavemen human?). Also, a lot of people (all of Manhattan for human species, and likewise for each alien culture) in the ship, not a 'handful'. (btw, how does a 'handful' of people (also, is your brother qualifying aliens as people?) represent a lot of different cultures?)


message 21: by Marla (last edited May 27, 2013 07:34PM) (new)

Marla | 27 comments Aparently what he meant to say to me was - a handful of people (aliens included) from different galactic cultures are traveliing on the infinity ship after the galactic civilization has collapsed. Not sure if the cavemen were human, I think he just called them that for lack of a better description. I am working my way back through all the books I had already looked at and dismissed because I thought there would have been a LOT of "beings" aboard the ship and dismissed some for having only a few beings. Sorry for the confusion. I keep hoping he will remember more but no luck so far. I assume each of the travelers would be from a different place or planet and thats what he means by "many cultures traveling together"


message 22: by Kris (new)

Kris | 54961 comments Mod
Space Skimmer by David Gerrold?
http://www.amazon.com/Space-Skimmer-D...


message 23: by Marla (new)

Marla | 27 comments Sorry sweetie not the right one :(


message 24: by Graham (new)

Graham (crimegods) | 1 comments Well now I am intrigued and want to read this as well! Hope you find it.


message 25: by Marla (new)

Marla | 27 comments LOL me too!


message 26: by Marla (new)

Marla | 27 comments I hate to say it but I may just have to give up. I have been searching for a month and am no closer to locating this book :(


message 27: by Kris (new)

Kris | 215 comments Pftt, break a sweat kid. My first one took almost four years to find.


Justanotherbiblophile | 1814 comments Psssh. Short-timers. I've gone longer on searches that eventually turned up successful. And I've also got searches that're still waiting for successful resolutions.

Just put it on your monthly calendar, and come back and check up on it.

Be sure to ask your meat-search-engines. Your local librarian, your local bookstore (who will also know your local bibliomaniacs, who may know what you're looking for).


message 29: by Marla (new)

Marla | 27 comments Good idea! See you in a month.


message 30: by Grey (new)

Grey Wolf | 49 comments Something by Brian Aldiss? It rings just the tiniest of bells and that name seems to be associated with it


message 31: by Grey (new)

Grey Wolf | 49 comments I found what I thought maybe it was, Non Stop

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Stop...

but I don't think this matches all of the OP's plot


message 32: by Grey (new)

Grey Wolf | 49 comments Or maybe Heinlein

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orphans_...

Again not an exact match, but in the right area that its worth mentioning just in case


message 33: by Krazykiwi (new)

Krazykiwi | 152 comments This is a real long shot, but it reminds me very strongly of an old TV show called "The Starlost", from at least the early 70's. Is it at all possible he read a novelization of it? (The show itself was Harlan Ellison, but any tie-in novel would probably not be - according to wikipedia he disowned it before it aired, but it was reading an Ellison biography that jogged my memory anyway.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Star... - if you look at the episodes, pretty much everything you mentioned is in there, from the crew not being aware of the generation ship itself, to cavemen.


message 34: by Marla (new)

Marla | 27 comments Thanks for the bump :) Sadly I still have not been able to locate the book :( The suggestions that have been posted have had me reading things I never thought I would though lol! I am still searching and I hope I can one day find it for my brother. He did tell me that he read it when he was rather young (he was born in 1962) and the book was an old one even then. I am hoping for a visit to a larger library (ours is the size of my bedroom) for more brain picking. Thanks everyone.


message 35: by Ann aka Iftcan (new)

Ann aka Iftcan (iftcan) | 6917 comments Mod
Ok, NOT set on a space ship, but in some ways it kind of reminds me of the book Retread Shop. But only in some ways--the Galactic Civilization and it collapsing is part of the theme of this book--but it deals with multiple collapses and then re-rising of civilizations. In fact, the Retread Shop of the title is a space station that was created billions (and yes, that IS with a "B") of years ago and yet is found and re-used by the intervening Civilizations.

I really don't think that that's it, but thought I'd toss it into the hat, just in case. . .


message 36: by Marla (new)

Marla | 27 comments Sounds like a great book though! Thanks for trying :)


message 37: by Rob (new)

Rob | 83 comments This rings a bell. I read a book a few years ago which had a bunch of various races on a huge spaceship. There was some sort of conspiracy against the captain (who I think was a woman) and it turned out that there was an entire planet contained within a sealed off part of the ship, which may have had something to do with powering the vessel. Some of the story then took place on the surface of this planet, which was at a much lower technological state than the rest of the ship.


message 38: by Marla (new)

Marla | 27 comments Very interesting! I will relate all that to my brother and see if it sparks anything! Thank you.


message 39: by Rob (last edited Nov 06, 2013 04:25AM) (new)

Rob | 83 comments BTW, I remembered the book I was reminded of - it is Marrow by Robert Reed.

Perhaps not the one you're looking for - doesn't match all the story elements but quite an interesting concept, even if it wasn't totally successful as a novel.

There was a sequel too - The Well of Stars.


message 40: by Scott (new)

Scott (smchure) | 77 comments How about The Boat of a Million Years by Poul Anderson? In it, some humans are born immortal, and end up on a spaceship, exploring space.


Justanotherbiblophile | 1814 comments _Boat of a Million Years_ has a ton of earth-people on it (but only the initially immortal characters are of any importance), but no other cultures (view spoiler)


message 42: by Marla (new)

Marla | 27 comments Checked these but still no go :(


message 43: by Marla (new)

Marla | 27 comments Bumping


message 44: by Bargle (last edited Dec 05, 2014 03:50AM) (new) - added it

Bargle | 1760 comments Mixed cultures starship. Infinity Starship.

Bumping this back up because I'm still curious.


message 45: by Daphne (new)

Daphne | 247 comments You're really sure it's not Space Skimmer? That has both the right plot and the line "now the monster is me".


message 46: by Kimber (new)

Kimber (kimberlibri) | 158 comments In Pathfinder by Orson Scott Card there is a side story that runs at the beginning of each section about the astronaut that piloted one of the infinity ships heading to the new planet. For some reason the quote 'Now the monster is me' made me think immediately of this book. I have no idea if it is what you are looking for but worth a shot. Again..it's totally not the main story but a side/back story that explains why things are the way they are on the new planet.


message 47: by Kirstin (new)

Kirstin | 83 comments Space Skimmer Space Skimmer by David Gerrold for Daphne's link


message 48: by D.M. (new)

D.M. Dutcher  | 339 comments Space Skimmer has this line, too:

...you did nothing to make yourself free-
so slaves you'll remain for all your days-
only now, the monster is me!


message 49: by Bargle (new) - added it

Bargle | 1760 comments Marla, was Space Skimmer it?


message 50: by Marla (new)

Marla | 27 comments I'm so sorry that I haven't been checking in her for a long time! Calling my brother right now with that quote.........
OMG!!!! That's the book!!!! THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH!! Hugs all around!!


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