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This will be my first time joining a reading challenge.. I'm very very excited.. I don't know how comfortable I am writing DQ's at this time.. If I can maybe find my way with this book and then volunteer for DQ's on future books..
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How exciting, Theresa! Welcome.
If you guys need help with any DQs let me know - I'm happy to help.
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@ Cathie - LOL!Thanks, Ashley Marie!
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Thanks for the laughs ladies!
I have never joined in a group read before, but I got the book from the library today so I would really like to join in. I wonder whether I can join in from the sidelines for this time, just so I can see how it all works before helping with DQs?
This will be my very first time participating in a group read/discussion. Is it okay if I grab my book and jump right in? I'm super excited!
I just picked up The Diviners from the library today! Looking forward to reading it with you all! :-)
I picked up my copy today too from the library. Hoorrrayyy! Jumping around, smiling. Jolene, I'm with you...what a workout lugging this one home, lol!
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Sure, NancyHelen. Welcome!
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Sure, Pamela. Welcome. Exciting, we are getting some "first timers."
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I would like to participate in this as well. I just have some questions. 1) Is this supposed to be part of a series that the rest has yet to come out? & 2) Is it pronounce diviners with a little i sound or diviners with a long i sound? Just curious.
Yes, it is the first book in a series, but none of the rest of the books are out yet.Maybe someone with an audio book can answer your 2nd question, but in my head I was saying it like a divining rod (those things that are used to find water). I don't remember my phonetics though :-D
OK, OK --- I signed up to do the discussion questions on Monday. This is my first time doing DQs so a bit nervous to make sure I read. For some reason, I thought we were reading 100 pages a day so I lugged the aforementioned HUGE book to the movies/lunch --- getting a good workout. Then I looked and realized we were reading less and I was most of the way through my section. I am such a dork!!
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From Wiki:
The Ouija board (/ˈwiːdʒə/ wee-jə) also known as a spirit board or talking board, is a flat board marked with the letters of the alphabet, the numbers 0-9, the words "yes", "no", "hello" (occasionally), and "goodbye", along with various symbols and graphics.It is a registered trademark of Hasbro Inc., as part of its line of board games, in 1950.
One of the first mentions of the automatic writing method used in the Ouija board is found in China around 1100 AD, in historical documents of the Song Dynasty.
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Emily, you can listen to how it is pronounced here at the author's web site.
I had one of those boards as a kid/teenager. Scared the hell out of ourselves when my cousins and I would be together for sleepovers
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And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
~ “The Second Coming,” William Butler Yeats
DQs for June 2: A Late Summer Evening--It's Just the Bennington, Dear; submitted by Lisa Kay
1. Did you know this book was going to be set in the 1920’s? I haven’t read a lot of books recently that are set in this area, have you? Especially YA. Do you get a sense of era? Flappers, Prohibition, radio, the death of Rudolph Valentino and the heiress having mannerisms of Clara Bow (both silent film sex symbols of the 1920’s), Edison’s “modern marvel,” jazz music, speakeasies, and vaudeville theater?
2. Have you ever play with an Ouija board? I had no idea it was that old. I’m thinking it was a B.A.D. I.D.E.A. to not spell out G.O.O.D. B.Y.E. Right?
3. What did you think was the significant of the wind, the old mansion, and the furnace in the cellar?
4. 4. What was your impression of Evie O’Neill? What about after you learned of her “gift” and why she left town? Her attitude toward her mother and father’s grief over James? The lies she told the train conductor? Her need for attention? Regardless of her lack of knowledge about world current events, does she have the smarts to make it in New York City?
5. What bit of poetry did Memphis Campbell write on that piece of paper? Do you think his dreams about an eye with a lightning bolt underneath are prophetic? And what of the crow following him? Eep!
6. What did you think of Sam Lloyd? Is he a harmless charmer? Legit? Or something more sinister? Have we seen the last of him?
7. What did you think of Uncle Will, curator of the Museum of American Folklore, Superstition, and the Occult? Did anything in particular standout? What the cabbie said? Jericho Jones? The items in the display case? Liberty Anne? ? The reveal of who – or what – “The Diviners” are? The clippings?
8. I have to admit, I thought Mabel Rose was going to be a fictitious person, did you? Do you like her? Pretty naïve compared to Evie, right? Can she be trusted with Evie’s secret? What about Evie’s plan for Mabel’s crush on Jericho Jones?
9. Impressions of Theta Knight, Ziegfeld girl? She comes across as much older than 17, at least on the audio. And her nickname for Evie?
10. The Misses Procter, Miss Lillian and Miss Adelaide, gave a creepy telling of the Bennington’s history, though Evie and Mabel shrug it off. You just know this is going to come into play in the plot, right? What about Miss Addie’s pronouncement? “You’re one of them, aren’t you, dear?” Spooky, true?
11. Do you think there is more to Jericho Jones’ story about how he came to work for Evie’s uncle? Will he and Evie’s uncle go along with Evie’s idea about advertising?
I just started this book last night, so far so good.
OK, forgive me for a first-timer, but here goes...1. Did you know this book was going to be set in the 1920’s? I haven’t read a lot of books recently that are set in this area, have you? Especially YA. Do you get a sense of era?
I didn't know, although with the new enthusiasm for The Great Gatsby currently, it does seem timely. I have read several a series of Crime Fiction novels set in 1920s Melbourne with Phryne Fisher (e.g. Murder On The Ballarat Train ) as a heroine and loved them. I do get the sense of the era, although perhaps laid on a little thick?
2. Have you ever play with an Ouija board? I had no idea it was that old. I’m thinking it was a B.A.D. I.D.E.A. to not spell out G.O.O.D. B.Y.E. Right?
I've never played with one. I agree - it was probably a bad idea...
3. What did you think was the significant of the wind, the old mansion, and the furnace in the cellar?
I think the old mansion and the furnace are going to become significant, as is the 'waking' up of Naughty John. I really like how she used the wind as a character to discover him
4. What was your impression of Evie O’Neill? What about after you learned of her “gift” and why she left town? Her attitude toward her mother and father’s grief over James? The lies she told the train conductor? Her need for attention? Regardless of her lack of knowledge about world current events, does she have the smarts to make it in New York City?
I have to admit that I don't like her very much at the moment! I think she's a pretty selfish person, although I would hope that she develops as the story goes on. But the need for attention could speak of an insecurity in her, which her strange gift might make worse, and so she is overcompensating. She probably will make it in NYC, although she's going to get in a bit of trouble first
5. What bit of poetry did Memphis Campbell write on that piece of paper? Do you think his dreams about an eye with a lightning bolt underneath are prophetic? And what of the crow following him? Eep!
Not at all sure of any of this at the moment...will be looking forward to finding out
6. What did you think of Sam Lloyd? Is he a harmless charmer? Legit? Or something more sinister? Have we seen the last of him?
I suspect not. I don't think he's legit or harmless, but nor do I think he's sinister. I could be wrong though
7. What did you think of Uncle Will, curator of the Museum of American Folklore, Superstition, and the Occult? Did anything in particular standout? What the cabbie said? Jericho Jones? The items in the display case? Liberty Anne? ? The reveal of who – or what – “The Diviners” are? The clippings?
There is a quietness and reserve about him which suggests something more than Evie credits him for. I think he is probably going to become one of her biggest allies
8. I have to admit, I thought Mabel Rose was going to be a factious person, did you? Do you like her? Pretty naïve compared to Evie, right? Can she be trusted with Evie’s secret? What about Evie’s plan for Mabel’s crush on Jericho Jones?
I didn't dislike her at all - naive, yes although I think Evie is naive herself in a different way. I am not sure she can be trusted, but then I also feel Evie might end up causing more trouble than not in terms of the crush on Jericho Jones.
9. Impressions of Theta Knight, Ziegfeld girl? She comes across as much older than 17, at least on the audio. And her nickname for Evie?
Her nickname seemed prophetic. I too thought she was older and she seems quite jaded. I wonder what her past story is?
10. The Misses Procter, Miss Lillian and Miss Adelaide, gave a creepy telling of the Bennington’s history, though Evie and Mabel shrug it off. You just know this is going to come into play in the plot, right? What about Miss Addie’s pronouncement? “You’re one of them, aren’t you, dear?” Spooky, true?
Of course it is!
11. Do you think there is more to Jericho Jones’ story about how he came to work for Evie’s uncle? Will he and Evie’s uncle go along with Evie’s idea about advertising?
Again, I think there is more to it, hence why they won't say anything. Yes, I do think he'll go along with the idea...what the result will be is yet to be found out
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DQs for June 2: A Late Summer Evening--It's Just the Bennington, Dear:1. Did you know this book was going to be set in the 1920’s? I haven’t read a lot of books recently that are set in this area, have you? Especially YA. Do you get a sense of era? Flappers, Prohibition, radio, the death of Rudolph Valentino and the heiress having mannerisms of Clara Bow (both silent film sex symbols of the 1920’s), Edison’s “modern marvel,” jazz music, speakeasies, and vaudeville theater? I've never read a book set in the 1920's, that was one of the reasons I wanted to read this book when I saw it was going to book of the month.
2. Have you ever play with an Ouija board? I had no idea it was that old. I’m thinking it was a B.A.D. I.D.E.A. to not spell out G.O.O.D. B.Y.E. Right?I've never played with an Ouija board, never seen one actually. And of course it was a bad idea not to spell out good bye but would you have done it. It seemed everyone thought it was a good joke and something to get the party back into swing.
3. What did you think was the significant of the wind, the old mansion, and the furnace in the cellar?The wind is probably the way a spirit (good or bad, though this one's very bad) and I think the old mansion may be the old home of that spirit. Also it sets a very spooky scene
4. What was your impression of Evie O’Neill? What about after you learned of her “gift” and why she left town? Her attitude toward her mother and father’s grief over James? The lies she told the train conductor? Her need for attention? Regardless of her lack of knowledge about world current events, does she have the smarts to make it in New York City?I feel she is a neglected girl trying to get attention. The lies she tells are to seek attention, but I think maybe to also hide herself a little from people. As her behaviour towards her parents and their grief over James I think she is also grieving and they don't seem to notice. To make it in New York I think she has a lot of learning to do she seems very naïve.
5. What bit of poetry did Memphis Campbell write on that piece of paper? Do you think his dreams about an eye with a lightning bolt underneath are prophetic? And what of the crow following him? Eep! I'm thinking it's a spell or something. I think he and Evy have a role together as they are both having dreams and an "ability".
6. What did you think of Sam Lloyd? Is he a harmless charmer? Legit? Or something more sinister? Have we seen the last of him?Sam Lloyd is a pickpocket and he played Evie from the first word he spoke to her and she fell for it. I don't think we will see more of him.
7. What did you think of Uncle Will, curator of the Museum of American Folklore, Superstition, and the Occult? Did anything in particular standout? What the cabbie said? Jericho Jones? The items in the display case? Liberty Anne? ? The reveal of who – or what – “The Diviners” are? The clippings?Don't know yet. I think Uncle Will will be a mentor to both Memphis and Evie. He is not a Diviner, but maybe the one to bring them together.
8. I have to admit, I thought Mabel Rose was going to be a factious person, did you? Do you like her? Pretty naïve compared to Evie, right? Can she be trusted with Evie’s secret? What about Evie’s plan for Mabel’s crush on Jericho Jones?Mabel seems to be a bit of a dull and very shy person. She can be trusted with Evie's secret. Don't know about that plan it's going to be a disaster I think.
9. Impressions of Theta Knight, Ziegfeld girl? She comes across as much older than 17, at least on the audio. And her nickname for Evie?Trouble.
10. The Misses Procter, Miss Lillian and Miss Adelaide, gave a creepy telling of the Bennington’s history, though Evie and Mabel shrug it off. You just know this is going to come into play in the plot, right? What about Miss Addie’s pronouncement? “You’re one of them, aren’t you, dear?” Spooky, true?Very true.
11. Do you think there is more to Jericho Jones’ story about how he came to work for Evie’s uncle? Will he and Evie’s uncle go along with Evie’s idea about advertising? Of course there is more about that story and I'm very curious about it. That advertising plan is going to happen whether Uncle Will and Jericho like it or not.
1. Did you know this book was going to be set in the 1920’s? I haven’t read a lot of books recently that are set in this area, have you? Especially YA. Do you get a sense of era? Flappers, Prohibition, radio, the death of Rudolph Valentino and the heiress having mannerisms of Clara Bow (both silent film sex symbols of the 1920’s), Edison’s “modern marvel,” jazz music, speakeasies, and vaudeville theater?I think the author is doing a fantastic job conveying the feel of the era. The buildings, clothes, slang are all very fitting. I have to admit that "-ski" is getting on my nerves, though.
2. Have you ever play with an Ouija board? I had no idea it was that old. I’m thinking it was a B.A.D. I.D.E.A. to not spell out G.O.O.D. B.Y.E. Right?
Yeah, must have been a bad idea if Naughty John is out there somewhere plotting his evil strategy.
I have played with a Ouija board when I was very young. My grandmother had one and she really believed it worked. These days, I won't go near one. They terrify me. I had a very religious upbringing full of demon stories. I shudder to even think of going near a Ouija board now!
3. What did you think was the significant of the wind, the old mansion, and the furnace in the cellar?
I thought this was the spirit of Naughty John traveling on the wind to his old stomping grounds.
4. What was your impression of Evie O’Neill? What about after you learned of her “gift” and why she left town? Her attitude toward her mother and father’s grief over James? The lies she told the train conductor? Her need for attention? Regardless of her lack of knowledge about world current events, does she have the smarts to make it in New York City?
I think she acts much older than 17, although she is still a bit naive. I think her attitude about her parents' grief is a mask for her own grief, which is she has buried. Her need for attention shows that deep down she is very insecure. I want to know more about her gift. Did her brother also have it? I'm thinking it may be a family thing? Does her uncle know she has it? He seems to suspect.
5. What bit of poetry did Memphis Campbell write on that piece of paper? Do you think his dreams about an eye with a lightning bolt underneath are prophetic? And what of the crow following him? Eep!
NOt sure about the poetry. I think he may also have talent similar to Evie's. The crow is a fulfillment of his dream, it appears.
6. What did you think of Sam Lloyd? Is he a harmless charmer? Legit? Or something more sinister? Have we seen the last of him?
My first thought is he was a pimp trying to recruit her. I think his intentions are sinister and we'll see him again.
7. What did you think of Uncle Will, curator of the Museum of American Folklore, Superstition, and the Occult? Did anything in particular standout? What the cabbie said? Jericho Jones? The items in the display case? Liberty Anne? ? The reveal of who – or what – “The Diviners” are? The clippings?
Well....my first impression is that Evie is a Diviner, as well as Memphis, Uncle Will and Jericho. Uncle Will suspects Evie has "the gift." I think the museum is interesting. I wouldn't mind visiting!
8. I have to admit, I thought Mabel Rose was going to be a factious person, did you? Do you like her? Pretty naïve compared to Evie, right? Can she be trusted with Evie’s secret? What about Evie’s plan for Mabel’s crush on Jericho Jones?
I like her so far. Seems like Evie is the alpha in the relationship. I suspect Jericho will be attracted to Evie and cause friction between the women.
9. Impressions of Theta Knight, Ziegfeld girl? She comes across as much older than 17, at least on the audio. And her nickname for Evie?
She came across as much older, but Evie did as well. She seems very experienced. The nickname for Evie is a little creepy.
10. The Misses Procter, Miss Lillian and Miss Adelaide, gave a creepy telling of the Bennington’s history, though Evie and Mabel shrug it off. You just know this is going to come into play in the plot, right? What about Miss Addie’s pronouncement? “You’re one of them, aren’t you, dear?” Spooky, true?
Yes, it is spooky. Miss Addie read Evie like a book. The history of the Bennington is indeed creepy. I can't help thinking of the movie Poltergeist.
11. Do you think there is more to Jericho Jones’ story about how he came to work for Evie’s uncle? Will he and Evie’s uncle go along with Evie’s idea about advertising?
There must be much more to the story. I wonder if Uncle Will is deliberately avoiding publicity?
Really liking this so far!
1. Did you know this book was going to be set in the 1920’s? I haven’t read a lot of books recently that are set in this area, have you? Especially YA. Do you get a sense of era? Flappers, Prohibition, radio, the death of Rudolph Valentino and the heiress having mannerisms of Clara Bow (both silent film sex symbols of the 1920’s), Edison’s “modern marvel,” jazz music, speakeasies, and vaudeville theater?I had no clue. I thought the book happened in modern settings until I read the first chapter. Then again I thought the actual story takes place in modern time. Wrong again. The war with Germany that Evie takes about is it the first or second world war. Because I think I read somewhere that the year was 1949 or something. So it must be second. I am having a hard time understanding some of the phrases used like speakeasies etc and being an Indian I am kind of ignorant about the whole 1920's New York and I haven't read much books in that time period.
2. Have you ever play with an Ouija board? I had no idea it was that old. I’m thinking it was a B.A.D. I.D.E.A. to not spell out G.O.O.D. B.Y.E. Right?
I am too much of a chicken to play with the supernatural. Have seen way too much horror movies were things go horribly wrong. Still I find the idea interesting
3. What did you think was the significant of the wind, the old mansion, and the furnace in the cellar?
I was wondering about that. I haven't read any other books by the same author so don't know whether it is her usual writing style. May be she was trying to create and atmosphere of horror. Even the winds are scared of the unspeakable evil that likes in the old mansion or something.
4. 4. What was your impression of Evie O’Neill? What about after you learned of her “gift” and why she left town? Her attitude toward her mother and father’s grief over James? The lies she told the train conductor? Her need for attention? Regardless of her lack of knowledge about world current events, does she have the smarts to make it in New York City?
So far I am liking her character. I don't have much love for simpering females or those kind of heroines that feel the weight of the world is on their shoulders. I like characters who knows how to give as good as she gets. She is kind of reminding me of Scarlet O Hara from Gone with the wind. Kind of a watered down version at that.
5. What bit of poetry did Memphis Campbell write on that piece of paper? Do you think his dreams about an eye with a lightning bolt underneath are prophetic? And what of the crow following him? Eep!
May be he is a diviner with the power of seeing prophetic dreams. The crow was a nice touch. Sinister indeed
6. What did you think of Sam Lloyd? Is he a harmless charmer? Legit? Or something more sinister? Have we seen the last of him?
He is an intriguing character. There is more to him than that and I think we will be seeing him again. However he is not who he claims to be that is for sure
7. What did you think of Uncle Will, curator of the Museum of American Folklore, Superstition, and the Occult? Did anything in particular standout? What the cabbie said? Jericho Jones? The items in the display case? Liberty Anne? ? The reveal of who – or what – “The Diviners” are? The clippings?
Everything stood out for me. The museum, the artefacts, creepy jericho, liberty anne. I think Uncle Will is hiding something maybe he will end up like prof X from Xmen leading a group of diviners
8. I have to admit, I thought Mabel Rose was going to be a factious person, did you? Do you like her? Pretty naïve compared to Evie, right? Can she be trusted with Evie’s secret? What about Evie’s plan for Mabel’s crush on Jericho Jones?
I did get the vibe that she was sidekick material from the way Evie talked about her from the beginning. Does anyone else feel like Jericho is a diviner. The whole story about Uncle will being his care taker and his lack of communication all seem to be pointing to it.
9. Impressions of Theta Knight, Ziegfeld girl? She comes across as much older than 17, at least on the audio. And her nickname for Evie?
The way she was talking I imagined someone older. I think we will be seeing a lot more of her too. Her nickname for Evie does seem strange
10. The Misses Procter, Miss Lillian and Miss Adelaide, gave a creepy telling of the Bennington’s history, though Evie and Mabel shrug it off. You just know this is going to come into play in the plot, right? What about Miss Addie’s pronouncement? “You’re one of them, aren’t you, dear?” Spooky, true?
Yes, Spooky. May be they will have an ultimate show down at Bennington. The moment they said that the Bennington was build by an architect from a long line of witches who intended it to be a gateway of some sort I immediately thought of the movie Ghostbusters and the final showdown at the top of the building and all.
11. Do you think there is more to Jericho Jones’ story about how he came to work for Evie’s uncle? Will he and Evie’s uncle go along with Evie’s idea about advertising?
I think he will go along with it eventually. As for Jericho I think he is one of the diviners. Explains why the Unc keeps him close.
@ NancyHelen#1 – You side-tracked me; I had to check out that series. LOL!
#3 – Yes, and later the discussion in the beauty shop about “storms.”
#4 – I think we’ll see a lot of maturing of her character. At least, I hope so.
#8 – Yes, I think her messing with Mabel’s crush might back-fire.
You did great! See? Easy.
@ Imke#2 – I’ve read several, but it’s been years. I wasn’t expecting it to have the paranormal aspect to it that it does. Not that I mind.
#3 – I concur. I thought it was spooky.
#4 – Great analysis. Totally agree with you about her grief over James, too.
#5 – A spell!
#6 – He did play her, didn’t he? However, I think he’ll be back. Even if it is serendipitous.
#7 – Ah! I hadn’t thought of that, especially with regard to Memphis! Interesting. Now you make me wonder about Jericho.
#8 – LOL! Yes, I’m with you on that; “a disaster.”
#11 – Ha! True again.
@ Sandy #1 – Understandable-ski.
#2 – Yeah, I have a healthy respect for them. I’m surprised my mom let us play with it when we were little. I’m pretty sure it was our board and not a neighbor’. Hmmm.
#4 – Oh! Great questions.
#5 – See, I was wondering if the crow was Naughty John. Freaked me out.
#7 – I thought he might be a pimp, too.
#8 – That’s what I’m afraid of…
#9 – Yeah. I wouldn’t want the nickname, in way shape or manner.
#10 – Definitely!
#11 – Ah. I hadn’t thought of that.
I’m like it a lot, too!
@ Parvathy#1 – It is WWI, which was a terrible war. Lots of poisonous gas and definitely lots of mano-a-mano combat. Terrible way to die, and lots of internal psychological conflict.
#3 – I haven’t read anything by this author before, either.
#4 – Yes, I see the comparison.
#6 – Finally someone who thinks he’ll be back. However, I thought he was who he said he was. Interesting.
#7 – Now see, I didn’t go there and should have. Duh.
#8 – I’m starting to!
#10 – Good thinking on the location of the “ultimate showdown.”
1. Did you know this book was going to be set in the 1920’s? I haven’t read a lot of books recently that are set in this area, have you? Especially YA. Do you get a sense of era? Flappers, Prohibition, radio, the death of Rudolph Valentino and the heiress having mannerisms of Clara Bow (both silent film sex symbols of the 1920’s), Edison’s “modern marvel,” jazz music, speakeasies, and vaudeville theater?Sometimes I try not to read what the book is about and just plunge in (which is what I did with this one) and I have been pleasantly surprised with the 1920’s era. I can picture everything Bray is describing to us and I also love the slang Evie is fond of. I think we should probably bring back “jake”.
2. Have you ever play with an Ouija board? I had no idea it was that old. I’m thinking it was a B.A.D. I.D.E.A. to not spell out G.O.O.D. B.Y.E. Right?
LOL Definitely a bad idea not to say goodbye but something needed to get the ball rolling for the story, right? I played with a Ouija board at some sleepovers in middle school, especially after watching Only You (we wanted to find our own Damon Bradley).
3. What did you think was the significant of the wind, the old mansion, and the furnace in the cellar?
I just took the wind kind of like the narrator, taking us through old New York to set the stage and bring us to where the evil will begin.
4. What was your impression of Evie O’Neill? What about after you learned of her “gift” and why she left town? Her attitude toward her mother and father’s grief over James? The lies she told the train conductor? Her need for attention? Regardless of her lack of knowledge about world current events, does she have the smarts to make it in New York City?
I liked her gumption right off the bat yet I didn’t understand her snapping at her grieving parents; I feel like there is something there about her brother’s death that is irking her or she has a spiritual connection to it that we’ll learn more about later. I felt bad that she was a pariah in her town but someone with a cool gift like that deserves better, I just wish it didn’t give her headaches.
I immediately knew that Sam Lloyd robbed her, it was very obvious, but now that she knows that things like this happen in NYC, she’s going to learn from that experience. She may be naïve and not very worldly but I think she has an open mind to learn.
5. What bit of poetry did Memphis Campbell write on that piece of paper? Do you think his dreams about an eye with a lightning bolt underneath are prophetic? And what of the crow following him? Eep!
I’m not sure about the poetry but crows are a symbol of death so I think Memphis’s dreams are definitely prophetic in the sense that evil is lurking around the corner. I hope he’s one of the Diviners that can hopefully stop whatever is going to come about.
6. What did you think of Sam Lloyd? Is he a harmless charmer? Legit? Or something more sinister? Have we seen the last of him?
I think Sam Lloyd is a pretty bad thief that’s why he chose an easy target and is hanging out by the trains from out of town. I have a feeling we’ll see him again because Evie’s got a bit of beef with him that needs to be settled. I hope she gets that twenty bucks back!
7. What did you think of Uncle Will, curator of the Museum of American Folklore, Superstition, and the Occult? Did anything in particular standout? What the cabbie said? Jericho Jones? The items in the display case? Liberty Anne? ? The reveal of who – or what – “The Diviners” are? The clippings?
I thought Uncle Will was going to be weird and antisocial but when Evie finds him lecturing a bunch of students that are eagerly awaiting his response to their questions, I was totally surprised. I think he gives off an Indiana Jones vibe, knowledgeable professor that seeks answers to superstitions and occult meanings through research and hopefully adventure? I wonder if he is a Diviner or is searching for Diviners. I wonder if he already suspects Evie as one like Miss Addie did.
8. I have to admit, I thought Mabel Rose was going to be a factious person, did you? Do you like her? Pretty naïve compared to Evie, right? Can she be trusted with Evie’s secret? What about Evie’s plan for Mabel’s crush on Jericho Jones?
Mabel is kind of a boring character, no? I think it’s nice though that someone so different than Evie can still appreciate her brashness and be able to cut loose from the goodie two shoes mode to enjoy her. I think she can be trusted with Evie’s secret unless someone pressures her into spilling her guts. Jericho seems kind of odd and mysterious, I look forward to finding out more about him.
9. Impressions of Theta Knight, Ziegfeld girl? She comes across as much older than 17, at least on the audio. And her nickname for Evie?
Yes, she appears very mature for her age but I guess that’s a part of the field she is in. I didn’t like her nickname for Evie because I find Evie vibrant and curious, not evil at all. Could be some foreshadowing for things to come though.
10. The Misses Procter, Miss Lillian and Miss Adelaide, gave a creepy telling of the Bennington’s history, though Evie and Mabel shrug it off. You just know this is going to come into play in the plot, right? What about Miss Addie’s pronouncement? “You’re one of them, aren’t you, dear?” Spooky, true?
It’s definitely coming into play and now that Evie knows about it, she might deliberately try to seek out these ghosts that haunt the building. I loved Miss Addie’s pronouncement and I think Evie knows exactly what she’s referring too but doesn’t want to admit it yet. I have a feeling Evie may seek her out again in this story and it will be interesting to see what Miss Addie knows as well.
11. Do you think there is more to Jericho Jones’ story about how he came to work for Evie’s uncle? Will he and Evie’s uncle go along with Evie’s idea about advertising?
I think they won’t go along with the advertising but Evie is going to do it anyway. And oh yes, there is more to Jericho than meets the eye.
@ Reed#1 – I do that sometimes too. Well, usually I read it, then set it aside and mostly forget about the synopsis. This one, I went purely on a recommendation that it was well narrated, so I didn’t read it at all.
#3 – Ah! Yes, evil’s side of things.
#4 – I like that she has “gumption,” too. I’m pretty sure she wouldn’t have done that at the party, if she hadn’t been so drunk. I’m not a fan of drinking, especially in one so young. Now this makes me wonder what the drinking age was before Prohibition. Hmmm.
#6 – LOL! We’ll see if she get that twenty back.
#7 – Well, I hadn’t thought of Indie… but could be!
#8 – I like that about Mabel, too. Ditto with regards to JJ.
#9 – Oh! Could be foreshadowing.
#10 – I agree; Evie knows what Miss Addie was referring to.
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No, I didn't, but I started reading the book as quite a while ago it was on my TBR for the GRCA Challenge, so it is possible I did know it when I added it and then promptly forgot! haha. I did like the descriptions of the era, and thanks for the photos! Especially the Ziegfeld Girls/Follies
2. Have you ever play with an Ouija board? I had no idea it was that old. I’m thinking it was a B.A.D. I.D.E.A. to not spell out G.O.O.D. B.Y.E. Right?
I have done lots of ghost tours and ghost "hunting", But I always thought the Ouija Board was just a bit crazy.. haha
3. What did you think was the significant of the wind, the old mansion, and the furnace in the cellar?
I assume it all leads to Crazy John somehow. Very freaky though!
4. 4. What was your impression of Evie O’Neill? What about after you learned of her “gift” and why she left town? Her attitude toward her mother and father’s grief over James? The lies she told the train conductor? Her need for attention? Regardless of her lack of knowledge about world current events, does she have the smarts to make it in New York City?
She is pretty annoying! She is trying to be grown up and sophisticated but doesn't actually realise what that is
5. What bit of poetry did Memphis Campbell write on that piece of paper? Do you think his dreams about an eye with a lightning bolt underneath are prophetic? And what of the crow following him? Eep!
I like thie ointroduction of a new and completely different character. Looking forward to him and Evie meeting!
6. What did you think of Sam Lloyd? Is he a harmless charmer? Legit? Or something more sinister? Have we seen the last of him? I think harmless, just another street theif. I'm sure we shall see more of him :)
7. What did you think of Uncle Will, curator of the Museum of American Folklore, Superstition, and the Occult? Did anything in particular standout? What the cabbie said? Jericho Jones? The items in the display case? Liberty Anne? ? The reveal of who – or what – “The Diviners” are? The clippings?
I like him and this museum. He will definitely come in handy. I think he probably knows about Evie's abilities, but I would be surprised if he has any himself
8. I have to admit, I thought Mabel Rose was going to be a factious person, did you? Do you like her? Pretty naïve compared to Evie, right? Can she be trusted with Evie’s secret? What about Evie’s plan for Mabel’s crush on Jericho Jones?
She is not very interesting right now. I hope she can be trusted. I wish Evie would stay out of that situation!
9. Impressions of Theta Knight, Ziegfeld girl? She comes across as much older than 17, at least on the audio. And her nickname for Evie?
She does come across as older. It is a bit worrying that Evie will try to aspire to be like her
10. The Misses Procter, Miss Lillian and Miss Adelaide, gave a creepy telling of the Bennington’s history, though Evie and Mabel shrug it off. You just know this is going to come into play in the plot, right? What about Miss Addie’s pronouncement? “You’re one of them, aren’t you, dear?” Spooky, true? Yes!
11. Do you think there is more to Jericho Jones’ story about how he came to work for Evie’s uncle? Will he and Evie’s uncle go along with Evie’s idea about advertising?
I'm sure there is more to this story and I wonder if Jericho also has some kind of power? I don't think they will as they don't seem to care about having customers
I just joined not too long ago, so this is my first book I'll be reading with you guys. Seems like it'll be fun! C:1. Did you know this book was going to be set in the 1920’s? I haven’t read a lot of books recently that are set in this area, have you? Especially YA. Do you get a sense of era? Flappers, Prohibition, radio, the death of Rudolph Valentino and the heiress having mannerisms of Clara Bow (both silent film sex symbols of the 1920’s), Edison’s “modern marvel,” jazz music, speakeasies, and vaudeville theater?
I didn't realize that it was set in the 1920's, no. But I find it refreshing to read. Perhaps I should try and get more into historical fiction, because I really enjoy how this is written so far. I felt that the beginning with the wind describing the city was the most helpful piece in getting a sense of the setting. Ingenious, really.
2. Have you ever play with an Ouija board? I had no idea it was that old. I’m thinking it was a B.A.D. I.D.E.A. to not spell out G.O.O.D. B.Y.E. Right?
I didn't know they were that old either. I've never used one. I hope nothing too scary happens in this book because I'm seriously a wimp. Not spelling good-bye was a terrible idea...but "a bad conscience is easier to cope with than a bad reputation", a smart man once said.
3. What did you think was the significant of the wind, the old mansion, and the furnace in the cellar?
The wind sort of seemed like a narrator introducing the era to us, but after reading about Liberty Anne, maybe it could have been some sort of spirit or force that could warn Diviners? The wind seems to be the only one who knows about Naughty John so far. Perhaps the furnace could be a gate for Naughty John to actually enter the world or something? He said "I stand at the door and knock" and that he was a "Dragon of Old"...dragons make me thing of fire and heat. I don't know. But I'm intrigued to say the least.
4. 4. What was your impression of Evie O’Neill? What about after you learned of her “gift” and why she left town? Her attitude toward her mother and father’s grief over James? The lies she told the train conductor? Her need for attention? Regardless of her lack of knowledge about world current events, does she have the smarts to make it in New York City?
My first impression of Evie was that she was self-absorbed, but as I learned about the death of her brother and her gift, I think seeking attention and telling lies is her way of hiding. She still hasn't come to terms with her brother's death, which we see when she talks with her Uncle." 'She's not the only one who misses James.'
'It's different for her.'
'So they say,' Evie swallowed down her anger."
She seems to feel misunderstood by her family, so she might behave the way she does out of spite in addition to hiding her feelings. She's also worried about her power, since she's confided in Mabel, but Mabel doesn't seem to take it very seriously.
5. What bit of poetry did Memphis Campbell write on that piece of paper? Do you think his dreams about an eye with a lightning bolt underneath are prophetic? And what of the crow following him? Eep!
Not sure about the poetry, but the eye with a lightning bolt reminds me a lot of the front cover of my copy...I think he'll turn out to be a Diviner, with those recurring dreams of his. As for the crow following him, I sincerely hope it has nothing to do with Naughty John!
6. What did you think of Sam Lloyd? Is he a harmless charmer? Legit? Or something more sinister? Have we seen the last of him?
I didn't really think much of him at the time, but even Evie found it strange that someone would latch on to her minutes after arriving in New York. Perhaps someone sensed her power and wanted to keep an eye on her? There was a hint that Miss Addie knew Evie's secret, so other people might also notice it.
7. What did you think of Uncle Will, curator of the Museum of American Folklore, Superstition, and the Occult? Did anything in particular standout? What the cabbie said? Jericho Jones? The items in the display case? Liberty Anne? ? The reveal of who – or what – “The Diviners” are? The clippings?
Was it common for schools to be overburdened at this time? Would it have been hard to find another school for Evie to go to in New York? I just found it weird that he basically said "Well, this girl's school is full, so you don't have to go...But you can study occult things while you're here and attend lectures" RIGHT after he introduced Diviners. I think Unc knows more about Evie than he's letting on.
8. I have to admit, I thought Mabel Rose was going to be a factious person, did you? Do you like her? Pretty naïve compared to Evie, right? Can she be trusted with Evie’s secret? What about Evie’s plan for Mabel’s crush on Jericho Jones?
She was the complete opposite of what I was expecting. With Evie being so rambunctious, I expected her good friend to be equally as unruly. But it turns out she's a naive and modest girl. I think she can be trusted with Evie's secret, because she doesn't seem to take it as seriously as Evie wants her to. I don't know if Evie's plan will work out very well. Jericho seems pretty reserved and has a rather dark, mysterious past. Doesn't seem much like the dating type at the present time.
9. Impressions of Theta Knight, Ziegfeld girl? She comes across as much older than 17, at least on the audio. And her nickname for Evie?
I hope we see a lot more of her, because I already think she's awesome. Roaming around in public in a robe and men's pajamas? Sounds like something I would do after a rough night. She seems like she could be very influential on Evie, which may play a role later on. The nickname seemed a little foreboding to me, but I'm not sure what to make of it...Maybe she's going to be an antagonist, hence the "Evil" name for Evie?
10. The Misses Procter, Miss Lillian and Miss Adelaide, gave a creepy telling of the Bennington’s history, though Evie and Mabel shrug it off. You just know this is going to come into play in the plot, right? What about Miss Addie’s pronouncement? “You’re one of them, aren’t you, dear?” Spooky, true?
If it sounds bad, and the characters don't think anything of it, SOMETHING is going to happen there. And the "You're one of them, aren't you, dear?" was basically sirens blaring to me "EVIE'S GOING TO END UP A DIVINER, IN CASE YOU DIDN'T PICK THAT UP YET". But that lady was pretty creepy. I don't think that's the last we'll see of her.
11. Do you think there is more to Jericho Jones’ story about how he came to work for Evie’s uncle? Will he and Evie’s uncle go along with Evie’s idea about advertising?
They're hesitant about advertising when the museum's going under...that to me says there is more going on behind the scenes in the museum than scrounging up dusty old artifacts and teaching college lectures. The museum might be a front for whatever Uncle Will is investigating with all those clippings.
1.Did you know this book was going to be set in the 1920’s? I haven’t read a lot of books recently that are set in this area, have you? Especially YA. Do you get a sense of era? Flappers, Prohibition, radio, the death of Rudolph Valentino and the heiress having mannerisms of Clara Bow (both silent film sex symbols of the 1920’s), Edison’s “modern marvel,” jazz music, speakeasies, and vaudeville theater?Yes, I knew it was set in the 20’s. I must say the 20’s slang, the mention of Edison’s bright lights, music and the careless party scene gave me a strong sense of the era.
2. Have you ever play with an Ouija board? I had no idea it was that old. I’m thinking it was a B.A.D. I.D.E.A. to not spell out G.O.O.D. B.Y.E. Right?
Yeah. Unfortunately, I have played with an Ouija board – we communicated with a guy that called himself “Fast Eddie”, Seriously! I agree it was a very bad idea to not spell out G-O-O-D-B-Y-E
3. What did you think was the significant of the wind, the old mansion, and the furnace in the cellar?
The wind seems to transport spirits. The wind has become numb to terrible events, broken dreams and the current condition of man. Once the wind reaches the old mansion it starts to sense pure evil. “If the wind were a sentinel, it would send up the alarm. It would cry out a warning of terrors to come”. Creepy!
4.What was your impression of Evie O’Neill? What about after you learned of her “gift” and why she left town? Her attitude toward her mother and father’s grief over James? The lies she told the train conductor? Her need for attention? Regardless of her lack of knowledge about world current events, does she have the smarts to make it in New York City?
Evie seems rather naïve and careless. The fact that she only used her gift after a few glasses of liquid courage speaks volumes. I think she is grieving over James and it shows through her actions. The constant need for attention is a bit annoying. I’m not sure she has the smarts to make it in NY.
5. What bit of poetry did Memphis Campbell write on that piece of paper? Do you think his dreams about an eye with a lightning bolt underneath are prophetic? And what of the crow following him? Eep!
I don't know what Memphis wrote on that paper. His dream about an eye with a lightning bolt might be prophetic. The crow shadowing Memphis gave me the willies!
6. What did you think of Sam Lloyd? Is he a harmless charmer? Legit? Or something more sinister? Have we seen the last of him?
Sam Lloyd seems like a smooth talking two-bit hustler and theif. LOL I don’t trust him! No. We haven’t seen the last of this Lloyd character.
7. What did you think of Uncle Will, curator of the Museum of American Folklore, Superstition, and the Occult? Did anything in particular standout? What the cabbie said? Jericho Jones? The items in the display case? Liberty Anne? ? The reveal of who – or what – “The Diviners” are? The clippings?
I’m not sure what to make of Uncle Will at this point. The condition of the museum, the items on display and the selection of books stood out. The museum makes the cabbie and the people uncomfortable – clearly, it would be best for the Diviners to keep quiet about their gift.
8. I have to admit, I thought Mabel Rose was going to be a factious person, did you? Do you like her? Pretty naïve compared to Evie, right? Can she be trusted with Evie’s secret? What about Evie’s plan for Mabel’s crush on Jericho Jones?
I like Mabel Rose. I think it’s kind of cool that she’s exercising individualism. Let’s face it! Mabel is the direct opposite of Evie, the flapper. I believe she can be trusted with Evie’s secret. I’m sure Evie’s plan will push Mabel out of her comfort zone.
9. Impressions of Theta Knight, Ziegfeld girl? She comes across as much older than 17, at least on the audio. And her nickname for Evie?
I agree. Theta Knight does come of as much older than 17. I’m not sure about that whole nickname thing.
10. The Misses Procter, Miss Lillian and Miss Adelaide, gave a creepy telling of the Bennington’s history, though Evie and Mabel shrug it off. You just know this is going to come into play in the plot, right? What about Miss Addie’s pronouncement? “You’re one of them, aren’t you, dear?” Spooky, true?
How the heck did Miss Addie know she was one of them? Oh yes! These ladies will most definitely come into play in the plot.
11. Do you think there is more to Jericho Jones’ story about how he came to work for Evie’s uncle? Will he and Evie’s uncle go along with Evie’s idea about advertising?
There’s got to be more to Jericho’s story. I’m not sure if they will go along with the idea of advertising.
1. Did you know this book was going to be set in the 1920’s? I haven’t read a lot of books recently that are set in this area, have you? Especially YA. Do you get a sense of era? Flappers, Prohibition, radio, the death of Rudolph Valentino and the heiress having mannerisms of Clara Bow (both silent film sex symbols of the 1920’s), Edison’s “modern marvel,” jazz music, speakeasies, and vaudeville theater?That's actually why I wanted to read this book so badly. I love the glitz and glamor of the 20s, and I thought the idea of a paranormal YA novel set in that time period in NYC would be pos-i-tute-ly fantastic. So far I'm definitely finding Bray's world building to be believable.
2. Have you ever play with an Ouija board? I had no idea it was that old. I’m thinking it was a B.A.D. I.D.E.A. to not spell out G.O.O.D. B.Y.E. Right?
This seems like one of those tropes from horror films. The kids get a warning from an old codger but they don't listen...murder ensues! I kind of love how B movie-esque it is.
3. What did you think was the significant of the wind, the old mansion, and the furnace in the cellar?
I just finished reading The Devil in the White City recently, and it made me think of that. DITWC is about a real serial killer that haunted the World's Fair in Chicago, and he built a murder castle to kill people in (AND NO ONE NOTICED!! I'm still freaking out about that). He even had a crematorium in his basement to dispose of bodies. The wind/furnace/mansion made me think of that - the idea that there's a place where terrible things have happened and no one's paid enough attention to know to avoid what's coming. The wind seemed like a device to point that out - that everyone is so naive and should have been paying closer attention.
4. What was your impression of Evie O’Neill? What about after you learned of her “gift” and why she left town? Her attitude toward her mother and father’s grief over James? The lies she told the train conductor? Her need for attention? Regardless of her lack of knowledge about world current events, does she have the smarts to make it in New York City?
She's not very likable, but I still like her. Evie seems like she's lived under her brother's shadow long before he died, and I know a lot of younger siblings that act out in the attempt to define their personalities. I think she'll be ok in NYC - she seems to be quick witted enough to get by. I love how she handled the pick pocket when he kissed her!
5. What bit of poetry did Memphis Campbell write on that piece of paper? Do you think his dreams about an eye with a lightning bolt underneath are prophetic? And what of the crow following him? Eep!
I think he's a Diviner. I hope we learn more about what he can do!
6. What did you think of Sam Lloyd? Is he a harmless charmer? Legit? Or something more sinister? Have we seen the last of him?
I think he's harmless, and he'll end up being helpful to Evie when the mystery gets underway.
7. What did you think of Uncle Will, curator of the Museum of American Folklore, Superstition, and the Occult? Did anything in particular standout? What the cabbie said? Jericho Jones? The items in the display case? Liberty Anne? ? The reveal of who – or what – “The Diviners” are? The clippings?
I think the museum was a really clever info-dump for the reader. We learned a lot about Evie and what her powers might mean without it seeming awkward. I'm curious about how cold Uncle WIll and Jericho are. And how did Uncle WIll find Jericho in the orphanage? The handshake in place of a hug from Uncle Will was super awkward, too.
8. I have to admit, I thought Mabel Rose was going to be a factious person, did you? Do you like her? Pretty naïve compared to Evie, right? Can she be trusted with Evie’s secret? What about Evie’s plan for Mabel’s crush on Jericho Jones?
I think Mabel is an excellent Velma to Evie's Daphne, so far. I kind of like that Bray is introducing a character that will make a good foil for Evie's brashness. I think she's trustworthy. I'm a bit worried about Evie's plan for her and Jericho, because that could backfire so easily. I hope Mabel doesn't get hurt, because Evie doesn't seem to care much about other people's feelings.
9. Impressions of Theta Knight, Ziegfeld girl? She comes across as much older than 17, at least on the audio. And her nickname for Evie?
Theta seemed like a mean girl. I was waiting for her to tell Evie and Mabel that "they wear pink on Wednesdays." I didn't much care for her from that brief introduction, but I'll withhold judgement. She did seem much more mature than 17 in some ways.
10. The Misses Procter, Miss Lillian and Miss Adelaide, gave a creepy telling of the Bennington’s history, though Evie and Mabel shrug it off. You just know this is going to come into play in the plot, right? What about Miss Addie’s pronouncement? “You’re one of them, aren’t you, dear?” Spooky, true?
SO WEIRD. I'm seriously creeped out by weird old women in books, as a general rule. What is up with those ladies?!? First they scold the girls for laughing in public, then tell them about black vomit? Bizarre. I think Addie is a Diviner, too.
11. Do you think there is more to Jericho Jones’ story about how he came to work for Evie’s uncle? Will he and Evie’s uncle go along with Evie’s idea about advertising?
I think they'll have to go along with the advertising idea, if the museum is really in financial trouble. I think it will be a pretty funny thing if they do! I'm very curious to know more about Jericho and WIll - that whole situation seems really strange.
1. Did you know this book was going to be set in the 1920’s? I haven’t read a lot of books recently that are set in this area, have you? Especially YA. Do you get a sense of era? Flappers, Prohibition, radio, the death of Rudolph Valentino and the heiress having mannerisms of Clara Bow (both silent film sex symbols of the 1920’s), Edison’s “modern marvel,” jazz music, speakeasies, and vaudeville theater?Yes I knew this book was set in the 1920’s, and it was one of the aspects that drew me into reading this. I just recently read The Great Gatsby and watched the movie so I’m really into this era right now. It makes me want to read more about the time where people seemed to have no cares.
2. Have you ever play with an Ouija board? I had no idea it was that old. I’m thinking it was a B.A.D. I.D.E.A. to not spell out G.O.O.D. B.Y.E. Right?
Uh no! (haha) I was that one kid who would have made everybody put it up. I did fall for the cat scratches thing though. IT freaked the heck out of me. It’s like where you lay on the ground and someone tells a story and then you get up and there are red scratches on your back. Well supposedly a demon came up and scratched your back. Don’t know how that happened… weird!
3. What did you think was the significant of the wind, the old mansion, and the furnace in the cellar?
I liked thinking of the wind as a kind of all seeing thing. I guess it meant that evil was awakening. The whole freaky thing for me was ruined though with the name Naughty John. I mean really?
4. What was your impression of Evie O’Neill? What about after you learned of her “gift” and why she left town? Her attitude toward her mother and father’s grief over James? The lies she told the train conductor? Her need for attention? Regardless of her lack of knowledge about world current events, does she have the smarts to make it in New York City?
I want to like her. I mean she is a real character, but I just have this dislike for her in the back of my mind. She is kind of rude, and I don’t really appreciate how she treats her parents. I mean at least she has them. I think she gets a little too drunk for 17 (which is any at all). Then she goes and lets that jerk kiss her and take her money. I don’t know, but I think she thinks she knows more than she actually does.
5. What bit of poetry did Memphis Campbell write on that piece of paper? Do you think his dreams about an eye with a lightning bolt underneath are prophetic? And what of the crow following him? Eep!
He is probably gonna die. Haha this just reminded me of Big Fish. Where the guy dreams of a crow that tells him your aunt is gonna die and she does, and then the crow comes back in another dream and says your dad is gonna die, and the milkman died on the front porch the next day. I’m sorry but that’s good stuff.
6. What did you think of Sam Lloyd? Is he a harmless charmer? Legit? Or something more sinister? Have we seen the last of him?
I mean people who’s hair won’t stay all together usually end up being pretty bad. No I don’t know about that, but I do think we will see him again.
7. What did you think of Uncle Will, curator of the Museum of American Folklore, Superstition, and the Occult? Did anything in particular standout? What the cabbie said? Jericho Jones? The items in the display case? Liberty Anne? ? The reveal of who – or what – “The Diviners” are? The clippings?
He seems pretty cool and laid back. I like him especially after finding out that he’s fighting to keep something he loves (the museum) and that he took in an orphan. Referring to the cabbie; I just think people need to keep their mouths shut. Uncle Will is a little different and like the little girl who was different; she got hanged and people want to spread awful lies about this seemingly sweet man.
8. I have to admit, I thought Mabel Rose was going to be a factious person, did you? Do you like her? Pretty naïve compared to Evie, right? Can she be trusted with Evie’s secret? What about Evie’s plan for Mabel’s crush on Jericho Jones?
Maybe it’s just me, but I think I relate more to Mabel than to Evie. I do like her. She cares what older people think about her, and don’t get too caught up in the fads. She seems like the best of her friends to keep the secret. I hope the plan works.
9. Impressions of Theta Knight, Ziegfeld girl? She comes across as much older than 17, at least on the audio. And her nickname for Evie?
Yes I agree that she seems to act older than 17, but so do most of the girls except for Mabel. I guess we will find out. I think Libba Bray likes to make her characters dabble in the wicked.
10. The Misses Procter, Miss Lillian and Miss Adelaide, gave a creepy telling of the Bennington’s history, though Evie and Mabel shrug it off. You just know this is going to come into play in the plot, right? What about Miss Addie’s pronouncement? “You’re one of them, aren’t you, dear?” Spooky, true?
I guess we’ll have to see what kind of trouble Evie gets herself in.
11. Do you think there is more to Jericho Jones’ story about how he came to work for Evie’s uncle? Will he and Evie’s uncle go along with Evie’s idea about advertising?
Seriously yes I do believe there is more and I think it will come to play an important role. I hope they advertise because I love, museums and want it to stay in business.
I don’t have time to read all of them, but I do want to reply to some of the comments.@ Karen #7 Oh man I did not think about that. I sure do hope so!
@Kayla #2 Yeah I’m kind of a wimp too, but my problem is just loving it while what I’m reading or watching is scary but then not being able to sleep for days.
@Ashley Marie #10 Old ladies can be kind of creepy, but now that you say it these ladies kind of remind me of the Fates from Greek mythology. There are three of them and they talk like they know something. I don’t know I just like comparing things to Greek myths.
This is the first time have tried a group read like this and I am looking forward to seeing how I will cope with it. If I get into a book I can get lost in the story and just keep reading instead of trying to keep to a schedule. Wow, this is a lot of questions for 59 pages of book.1. Did you know this book was going to be set in the 1920’s? I haven’t read a lot of books recently that are set in this area, have you? Especially YA. Do you get a sense of era? Flappers, Prohibition, radio, the death of Rudolph Valentino and the heiress having mannerisms of Clara Bow (both silent film sex symbols of the 1920’s), Edison’s “modern marvel,” jazz music, speakeasies, and vaudeville theater?
No, I did not realize that it was set in the 1920's. All I retained from skimming the synopsis earlier was it had a mystery involved and I love mysteries. I decided to read this because I needed another YA book for a different challenge and I enjoyed her Gemma Doyle series. I also love The Great Gatsby and have read that book several times, so the time period is interesting to me. There is a start of a sense of era which I think will be filled in as the book progresses.
2. Have you ever play with an Ouija board? I had no idea it was that old. I’m thinking it was a B.A.D. I.D.E.A. to not spell out G.O.O.D. B.Y.E. Right?
I have never played with a board, but I think it was a very bad idea for them not to spell out G-O-O-D-B-Y-E.
3. What did you think was the significance of the wind, the old mansion, and the furnace in the cellar?
I think it was symbolizing the journey and foretelling of bad things to come.
4. What was your impression of Evie O’Neill? What about after you learned of her “gift” and why she left town? Her attitude toward her mother and father’s grief over James? The lies she told the train conductor? Her need for attention? Regardless of her lack of knowledge about world current events, does she have the smarts to make it in New York City?
My initial impression of her was a flighty girl who is rebelling against her parents as most teenagers tend to do at some point. She is trying to be more mature than she is before she gets the life experiences that show her what maturity really is. She is selfish and wants her way all the time, but I did get the sense that she is trying too hard to fit in and be 'normal' and not figure out who she really is or wants to be.
5. What bit of poetry did Memphis Campbell write on that piece of paper? Do you think his dreams about an eye with a lightning bolt underneath are prophetic? And what of the crow following him? Eep!
To be honest, I think this part kind of skimmed past my brain the first time. I had to go back and reread that chapter after seeing this question. I definitely think there is foreshadowing of really bad things to come. I think he will be meeting up with Evie later in the story and they will have some trials to get through.
6. What did you think of Sam Lloyd? Is he a harmless charmer? Legit? Or something more sinister? Have we seen the last of him?
I don't think we've seen the last of him, but I can't decide whether I think he is going to bring comic relief to the story or become a major character.
7. What did you think of Uncle Will, curator of the Museum of American Folklore, Superstition, and the Occult? Did anything in particular standout? What the cabbie said? Jericho Jones? The items in the display case? Liberty Anne? ? The reveal of who – or what – “The Diviners” are? The clippings?
Uncle Will seemed nondescript and that he didn't really want Evie around. I thought it very interesting that Evie gets in trouble for not conforming to proper society standards at home and her punishment is to go live with her very independent, 'out there' uncle. There is something weird going on in that museum and I like the fact that is has a nickname. I also liked the items in the display case to give me a better idea of just what might actually be in the museum. The class Uncle Will was teaching is a nice way to explain some of the mystical aspects of future happenings in the book.
8. I have to admit, I thought Mabel Rose was going to be a factious person, did you? Do you like her? Pretty naïve compared to Evie, right? Can she be trusted with Evie’s secret? What about Evie’s plan for Mabel’s crush on Jericho Jones?
Unfortunately?, I thought Mabel reminded me a lot of myself as a teenager, very naïve but attracted to the charms of more outgoing personalities(due to her friendship with Evie). She waxes poetic over her hidden crushes but I don't think she really thinks she will ever have him. I think she is very trustworthy, but Evie is going to torment her with her plans dealing with Jericho Jones.
9. Impressions of Theta Knight, Ziegfeld girl? She comes across as much older than 17, at least on the audio. And her nickname for Evie?
She cam across as much older to me as well. Her nickname is another foreshadowing of things to come.
10. The Misses Procter, Miss Lillian and Miss Adelaide, gave a creepy telling of the Bennington’s history, though Evie and Mabel shrug it off. You just know this is going to come into play in the plot, right? What about Miss Addie’s pronouncement? “You’re one of them, aren’t you, dear?” Spooky, true?
Spooky, but I think she is one of them as well and Evie may be learning a lot from her later on. I think it is going to be a very spooky book and not one I would normally have picked to read, but I am enjoying so far.
11. Do you think there is more to Jericho Jones’ story about how he came to work for Evie’s uncle? Will he and Evie’s uncle go along with Evie’s idea about advertising?
Of course there is more to Jericho Jones' story (I can't wait to find out what it is) and I don't think they will go along with Evie's idea. I think they are hiding something. However, I do think Evie might just do it for them anyway.
Emily wrote: "I don’t have time to read all of them, but I do want to reply to some of the comments.@ Karen #7 Oh man I did not think about that. I sure do hope so!
@Kayla #2 Yeah I’m kind of a wimp too, but ..."
I actually had the thought of the Fates, too. I also thought of Kassandra - that Addie is prophetic but no one takes her seriously (writes her off as a crazy old lady with dementia or something).
My reply to some of the other comments:@Sandy #8: Yes, I think that could be a possibility as well.
@Reed #6: I hope that happens soon.
@Ashley Marie #3: I read that book not too long ago as well, and I totally see where you are coming from.
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When I started this book a few months ago I struggled with it, but I've found just from this BOM's first set of reading I have already gotten more out of it and I'm keener on it second time around. It does make a difference reading with people I think :D
1. Did you know this book was going to be set in the 1920’s? I haven’t read a lot of books recently that are set in this area, have you? Especially YA. Do you get a sense of era? Flappers, Prohibition, radio, the death of Rudolph Valentino and the heiress having mannerisms of Clara Bow (both silent film sex symbols of the 1920’s), Edison’s “modern marvel,” jazz music, speakeasies, and vaudeville theater?I recently read Maisie Dobbs which is set in 1920’s London. I like historical fiction and I like YA, so I was looking forward to the read. That being said, I feel that Bray is beating us over the head with the time period and language (mostly Evie). Maybe it’s because I have the voice of Katherine Hepburn (as Evie) in my head with all the “Mabesie” and “pos-i-tute-ly”s. Seems like I’m one of the only ones annoyed though :-D
2. Have you ever play with an Ouija board? I had no idea it was that old. I’m thinking it was a B.A.D. I.D.E.A. to not spell out G.O.O.D. B.Y.E. Right?
I was one of the younger kids in our neighborhood and the older kids thought Ouija boards and séances were cool. They decided to have one in my room and call up “Jack the Ripper” --- for the remainder of the summer, I was totally creeped out being in my room. (My remedy was reading under the covers). I liked the comment that someone made about not taking the advice of the wise old people spells trouble in any horror movie.
3. What did you think was the significant of the wind, the old mansion, and the furnace in the cellar?
The wind is often symbolic in creepy movies (of course, I can’t think of a good example). I was thinking that the house was home base --- sitting on a portal through the furnace – for some type of evil. (Either that, or they are going into John Malkovich’s head :-D)
4. 4. What was your impression of Evie O’Neill? What about after you learned of her “gift” and why she left town? Her attitude toward her mother and father’s grief over James? The lies she told the train conductor? Her need for attention? Regardless of her lack of knowledge about world current events, does she have the smarts to make it in New York City?
Again, I’m a bit in the minority because I find Evie a bit annoying. I do agree that she is also grieving over her brother – but by 1926, it has been at least 8 years since his death. I find it very strange that Evie’s “punishment” for being a “bad” girl, is to be sent to New York City --- a place where she could certainly get into a lot worse trouble AND something that she views as a fun.
5. What bit of poetry did Memphis Campbell write on that piece of paper? Do you think his dreams about an eye with a lightning bolt underneath are prophetic? And what of the crow following him? Eep!
I definitely think that Memphis as some type of gift as well --- not sure if it’s exactly like Evie’s though.
6. What did you think of Sam Lloyd? Is he a harmless charmer? Legit? Or something more sinister? Have we seen the last of him?
He seems like a harmless grafter --- not necessarily evil/sinister – but a guy who does prey on naïve woman coming to the big city.
7. What did you think of Uncle Will, curator of the Museum of American Folklore, Superstition, and the Occult? Did anything in particular standout? What the cabbie said? Jericho Jones? The items in the display case? Liberty Anne? ? The reveal of who – or what – “The Diviners” are? The clippings?
I was reading this chapter late at night and so I don’t recall anything in particular – maybe I need to go back to read it. Uncle Will seemed a bit normal given his job.
8. I have to admit, I thought Mabel Rose was going to be a factious person, did you? Do you like her? Pretty naïve compared to Evie, right? Can she be trusted with Evie’s secret? What about Evie’s plan for Mabel’s crush on Jericho Jones?
I never questioned Mabel’s existence and I think she is definitely more naïve yet a bit more mature than Evie. Interesting that the small town girl is more brash the New Yorker. I think she will keep Evie’s secrets, until perhaps the plan with Jericho backfires and he ends up liking Evie.
9. Impressions of Theta Knight, Ziegfeld girl? She comes across as much older than 17, at least on the audio. And her nickname for Evie?
For some reason, I liked Theta --- although the nickname is creepy. I'm not sure that she knows anything in particular, but the nickname is a way to needle Evie.
10. The Misses Procter, Miss Lillian and Miss Adelaide, gave a creepy telling of the Bennington’s history, though Evie and Mabel shrug it off. You just know this is going to come into play in the plot, right? What about Miss Addie’s pronouncement? “You’re one of them, aren’t you, dear?” Spooky, true?
Oh yeah ---- lots of foreshadowing there. Another horror trope -- you should always pay attention to the crazy old ladies.
11. Do you think there is more to Jericho Jones’ story about how he came to work for Evie’s uncle? Will he and Evie’s uncle go along with Evie’s idea about advertising?
There is obviously more to the story of Jericho --- but it’s a long book, so we have to assume that we will get backstory for most of them :-D
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12. “And upon her forehead was a name written in Mystery: Babylon the Great, the Harlot” - Wow! City of Dreams – what a chapter!! Did you suspect that John Hobbes was up to no good? What or who do you think he is ?
13. Do you think that Hobbes was looking for “loose girls” (like Jack the Ripper) ? He refers to this being the 5th offering as commanded by the Lord God, so this is obviously a ritual. What is he trying to do?
14. Any guesses as to who Naughty John is??? BTW, I don’t recommend googling the term because I didn’t find anything and you can only guess what type of sites came up :-D?
15. Memphis has the gift of healing, or at least had. Any ideas why he won’t heal the chorus girl?
16. What is the significance of Evie’s re-occurring dream about her brother. What is he trying to show her? Does this have anything to do with her gift of divining?
17. Evie wants to buy stockings with the $10 winnings from the bet with Theta (on if Mabel will cut her hair). I looked up the value of $10 --- it would be about $120 in today’s terms. That’s some pretty expensive stockings. Did anyone else notice that?
18. Do you think Sam will bring back the money? Have your impressions changed?
19. Did you think that Uncle Will should have let Evie come along? I was actually impressed that she was able to stay mostly composed --- until she had the flash of Ruta’s death. Jericho was there to comfort her – do you think he knows about her gift?
20. “The whore of Babylon” phrase is in the book of Revelations and is often a way to refer to false religions. How do we think this plays into the story? What about the pentacle?
21. Isaiah, Memphis’ brother, also has a gift. Were you surprised by that? What do was in the files that Sister Walker pulled out after her session with Isaiah?
12. “And upon her forehead was a name written in Mystery: Babylon the Great, the Harlot” - Wow! City of Dreams – what a chapter!! Did you suspect that John Hobbes was up to no good? What or who do you think he is ? Oh the second he approached her I knew this was going to turn bad very quickly. I am not sure how Naughty John materialized to be solid, maybe took over someone else’s body?
13. Do you think that Hobbes was looking for “loose girls” (like Jack the Ripper) ? He refers to this being the 5th offering as commanded by the Lord God, so this is obviously a ritual. What is he trying to do?
Hobbes definitely has a problem with “modern girls” and he kind of paused when he found out she wasn’t like that but he still had to go through with it because she already saw him and the house. I felt really bad for her at the moment.
14. Any guesses as to who Naughty John is??? BTW, I don’t recommend googling the term because I didn’t find anything and you can only guess what type of sites came up :-D?
LOL!!!! Thanks for the tip. I’m not sure if he is fictional or going to be a serial killer from this era that the author is playing with.
15. Memphis has the gift of healing, or at least had. Any ideas why he won’t heal the chorus girl?
I think Memphis can still heal but chooses not to and I feel it might have to do with his mother’s passing. Maybe she was sick and he tried to heal her and it just made it worse and now he feels like he’s cursed. He doesn’t want to end up hurting anyone else.
16. What is the significance of Evie’s re-occurring dream about her brother. What is he trying to show her? Does this have anything to do with her gift of divining?
I’m not sure what he’s trying to tell her but it’s definitely linked to the evil that is on the horizon that even Memphis feels.
17. Evie wants to buy stockings with the $10 winnings from the bet with Theta (on if Mabel will cut her hair). I looked up the value of $10 --- it would be about $120 in today’s terms. That’s some pretty expensive stockings. Did anyone else notice that?
Wow, those are pricey stockings! Maybe she would buy several pairs?
18. Do you think Sam will bring back the money? Have your impressions changed?
I think he will bring back the money but then take something else. It’s like a flirting game between these two now.
19. Did you think that Uncle Will should have let Evie come along? I was actually impressed that she was able to stay mostly composed --- until she had the flash of Ruta’s death. Jericho was there to comfort her – do you think he knows about her gift?
Uncle Will didn’t have a chance in hell getting Evie to stay put. He has no idea how to control a young woman. Something is up with Jericho and I look forward to finding out what he can truly do.
20. “The whore of Babylon” phrase is in the book of Revelations and is often a way to refer to false religions. How do we think this plays into the story? What about the pentacle?
I’m not too knowledgeable in the area of occult so am not sure what the symbolism of the pentacle is. As for the Whore of Babylon, I think Hobbes has a problem with the way people are living in the 20’s, that they aren’t taking religion as seriously and looking for fun in different places rather than church.
21. Isaiah, Memphis’ brother, also has a gift. Were you surprised by that? What do was in the files that Sister Walker pulled out after her session with Isaiah?
Yeah it was definitely surprising that Isaiah has a gift too and that scene reminded me of the Ghostbusters when Vakeman is shocking the guy guessing cards even if he got it right. And those files are probably of all the people who are Diviners, a mishmash of “heroes” that are going to save the world.
DQs for: A Late Summer Evening--It's Just the Bennington, Dear; submitted by Lisa Kay 1. Did you know this book was going to be set in the 1920’s? I haven’t read a lot of books recently that are set in this area, have you? Especially YA. Do you get a sense of era? Flappers, Prohibition, radio, the death of Rudolph Valentino and the heiress having mannerisms of Clara Bow (both silent film sex symbols of the 1920’s), Edison’s “modern marvel,” jazz music, speakeasies, and vaudeville theater?
I did know it was set in the 1920s. I haven't read a lot from this timeframe. I'm enjoying all the references; my mother was older when I was adopted and she was a little girl growing up in the 20s and 30s so I heard her reference many of these icons and settings in her memories (especially at the end of her life when she had Alzheimers ...sorry for the spelling)
2. Have you ever play with an Ouija board? I had no idea it was that old. I’m thinking it was a B.A.D. I.D.E.A. to not spell out G.O.O.D. B.Y.E. Right?
Yes I have played with a Ouija board. Not a cool thing to do (though everyone thinks it is)
3. What did you think was the significant of the wind, the old mansion, and the furnace in the cellar?
A spooky element of things to come?
4 What was your impression of Evie O’Neill? What about after you learned of her “gift” and why she left town? Her attitude toward her mother and father’s grief over James? The lies she told the train conductor? Her need for attention? Regardless of her lack of knowledge about world current events, does she have the smarts to make it in New York City?
I think she has the moxy of every teenage girl who thinks they are unbeatable and can do everything better than those that have lived longer! She certainly is full of how she is going to change the world and how the world is just waiting to find out how wonderful she is! lol. I think her personality stems from having lived a fairly sheltered life with no hardships on her directly. She seems oblivious to the pain the death of her brother has on her Mother or her actions and how they affect others lives. I have the feeling she will grown up a lot in this book. I can see a young Liza Minielli (again spelling) playing here from an old B&W movie. I am loving the language and ll the old music references; I grew up listening to many of the songs mentioned...yeah, I had a weird childhood and was definitely out of place in the 60s when I was growing up, lol)
5. What bit of poetry did Memphis Campbell write on that piece of paper? Do you think his dreams about an eye with a lightning bolt underneath are prophetic? And what of the crow following him? Eep!
A good bit of foreshadowing done here I think. Sets a subtle creepy tone. I like the character of Memphis Campbell and hope to hear a lot more of his background. I think he will figure into the plot significantly.
6. What did you think of Sam Lloyd? Is he a harmless charmer? Legit? Or something more sinister? Have we seen the last of him?
I don't think we have seen the last of Sam; too much emphasis on his full name. What a con!
7. What did you think of Uncle Will, curator of the Museum of American Folklore, Superstition, and the Occult? Did anything in particular standout? What the cabbie said? Jericho Jones? The items in the display case? Liberty Anne? ? The reveal of who – or what – “The Diviners” are? The clippings?
Whoa, way too many questions!! lol. I think Uncle Will is a quiet reserved type of man; he has probably seen a lot and isn't "shocked" easily. Too bad for Evie...I think she likes to shock people and feel like she has an impact. I'm interested in the story between Jericho and "Unc"! (lol). I think Uncle Will has a reverence for those things that can't be explained and a belief that all things are possible without being "supersticious" (again spelling, something is off today...sorry)
8. I have to admit, I thought Mabel Rose was going to be a factious person, did you? Do you like her? Pretty naïve compared to Evie, right? Can she be trusted with Evie’s secret? What about Evie’s plan for Mabel’s crush on Jericho Jones?
I have a "bad" feeling that Mabel is in over her head where Evie is concerned...although she may be the reasoning post that Evie needs to keep her out of more trouble than being completely on her own. I have the feeling that Mabel will be hurt or embarrassed by Evie's actions.
9. Impressions of Theta Knight, Ziegfeld girl? She comes across as much older than 17, at least on the audio. And her nickname for Evie?
I think Theta is "experienced" and jaded. She definitely has had to grow up fast. She reminds me of a more mature, but still very cynical Jodie Foster from Taxi Driver...I know, I have totally marked myself as ancient with that reference, lol.
10. The Misses Procter, Miss Lillian and Miss Adelaide, gave a creepy telling of the Bennington’s history, though Evie and Mabel shrug it off. You just know this is going to come into play in the plot, right? What about Miss Addie’s pronouncement? “You’re one of them, aren’t you, dear?” Spooky, true?
Definitely the foretelling of things to come. Every creepy story needs a couple of old spinsters inserted into it that know the history and have seen it all before. No one usually pays attention to them until vital information is needed.
Just as a very side note, I get the feeling this is like the Waltons visit New York...it's suppose to be edgy (at least I think that's what Bray is aiming for) but it just doesn't come off that way to me...maybe because it's YA? Although I have read some very edgy YA that would make Adult blush!
11. Do you think there is more to Jericho Jones’ story about how he came to work for Evie’s uncle? Will he and Evie’s uncle go along with Evie’s idea about advertising?
I think they think she is just too full of herself; they are definitely more reserved than Evie is. She has this "Like, you're so dumb attitude" towards everyone, and "Leave it to me, I'll fix everything because I'm just the cat's Meoooow ~ how's that for flapper talk (lol)!
Later-ski! :-)
@ Karen#1 – You’re welcome. I didn’t realize the Ziegfeld Girls were so scantily dresses. Of course, there was no rating system back then.
#4 – No, she doesn’t know what being grown up entails.
#7 – Oh! I hadn’t thought about whether or not he had any abilities.
#9 – Yes, it worries me that Evie will try and emulate Theta.
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