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In all his years of supernatural sleuthing, Harry Dresden has never faced anything like this: the spirit world's gone postal. These ghosts are tormented, violent, and deadly. Someone-or something-is purposely stirring them up to wreak unearthly havoc. But why? If Harry doesn't figure it out soon, he could wind up a ghost himself.

Please join us for book 3 in The Dresden Files. EXPECT SPOILERS


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Oleander  | 188 comments I'm in for this one after I finish Fool Moon


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ShoSho  (shoshost) | 12263 comments I'm in :)Can't wait


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Gisela (chicadorlando) | 4022 comments I posted in the other thread that for me this is where the series took off.


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ShoSho  (shoshost) | 12263 comments I saw that :)


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 20787 comments I should really re-read this one. At least, I think this is the one I should. A lot of important events happen in this one.


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ShoSho  (shoshost) | 12263 comments Yaay yess you should read with us!


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ShoSho  (shoshost) | 12263 comments How's your headache? Better?


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 20787 comments It is better. Thanks, ShoSho.


Lauren (laurenjberman) Sorry to hear about your headache, Lisa Kay. Hope it gets better soon.

I finished Fool Moon yesterday and enjoyed it overall. Will try to get to Grave Peril by the end of the month but I have some other audios I want to listen to first. Listening to Iron Kissed (Mercy Thompson, #3) by Patricia Briggs now.


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 20787 comments Thanks, Lauren.


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 20787 comments Bob also tells Harry about the “loup garou.”

“Loup-garou,” Bob said. “Or that was the name Etienne the Enchanter used for them, before he got burned at the stake. The loup-garou are the major monsters, Harry. Someone has cursed them to become a wolflike demon, and usually at the full moon. That someone’s got to be really powerful, too, like a major heavyweight sorcerer or a demon lord or one of the Faerie Queens. When the full moon comes, they transform into a monster, go on a killing spree, and slaughter everything they come across until the moon sets or the sun rises.”
Is that what you were looking for, ShoSho?
Fool Moon (The Dresden Files, #2) by Jim Butcher


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ShoSho  (shoshost) | 12263 comments No I remember this part, what I couldn't remember was the part about the other type, the ones that weren't like animals in animal forms.like the alphas. I think Lauren found it posted it in the other thread.
Thanks:)


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 20787 comments Sure thing, ShoSho.


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ShoSho  (shoshost) | 12263 comments I'm going to start in the morning and will do the first set of questions.


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ShoSho  (shoshost) | 12263 comments I got Q's for chapter 1-11 ready but I have a feeling that I'm the only one reading:D


Lauren (laurenjberman) I may be able to start this one by the end of the month.


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Gisela (chicadorlando) | 4022 comments ShoSho wrote: "I got Q's for chapter 1-11 ready but I have a feeling that I'm the only one reading:D"

I'm skimming along. Post your Q's and I'll do my best to answer.


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ShoSho  (shoshost) | 12263 comments Here we go

Questions for chapters 1-12


1-Michael is one of Knights of the sword, huh! I’m sure we hadn't met him in the previous books .I like to know how Harry and Michael met , Did he know Elaine ?What do you think of him and his wife ? He is too faithful for my taste, with all the you can’t lie even for the greater good and stuff!

2-Do you have any theories about the chaos in the spirit realm and why the ghosts are going crazy?

3-I'm thinking there will be one person at the end who is responsible for all the stuff that has happened in the first 2 books and the ghost chaos and it is the same person who called Harry on the phone. The question is who? Any ideas?

4-Do you think Lydia was a genuine person in need or was she acting? Did he made a mistake in giving her his talisman? I LOLed at” nipple erection on command”! The incident at the church makes ma trust Lydia a bit more but still I don’t trust her completely !

5-Hmm a fairy godmother, that was a new way to see a fairy godmother. Did I get that right? They have a contract and Harry has to give his life to her? Does it mean she wants to kill him or want him to spend his life serving her?

6-Lea found him really fast, do you think the same person is responsible and somehow helped her to find him?

7-Do you think he really loves Susan? I don’t think so. I get his reason for not being able to say it but I don’t think he really does!

8- Will he end up taking Susan to the vampire gathering?


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Gisela (chicadorlando) | 4022 comments For those of you like me read this already and need a little refresher, Tor.com has done a Dresden Files Reread and have summaries for each book.

Book #1
Book #2
Book #3


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 20787 comments Man-oh-man! I really need to re-listen to this one. A ton of stuff happens. Just reading the recap is exhausting. LOL! Thanks, Gisela!


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 20787 comments BTW, I am listening to this book again, since it is such a vital part of the series. As soon as I get to the end of Chapter 12, I'll answer the questions, ShoSho.

I also bought the paperbacks for the next couple in the series, so I'm set.

Off topic/Info for ShoSho: I went to a different library to get Scent to Her Grave, the first in the Bath and Body Mystery series for "II" of the Double Decker challenge. I just couldn't start out of order. LOL!

My regular library was closed, so I could NOT get Tangle of Need - but it is still available, so I plan to get it on Monday.


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ShoSho  (shoshost) | 12263 comments Lisa Kay wrote: "BTW, I am listening to this book again, since it is such a vital part of the series. As soon as I get to the end of Chapter 12, I'll answer the questions, ShoSho.

I also bought the paperbacks f..."


Totally understand about not being able to read out of order.
Yaay that buddy read is going be great. I've started to count days


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ShoSho  (shoshost) | 12263 comments I started chapter 24 this morning . Chapter 23 was so intense and scary that I had to stop in the middle of it ,I didn't listen for a full day!


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 20787 comments I just finished. It is very scary. I'm working on your DQs.


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ShoSho  (shoshost) | 12263 comments I'm going to finish today ,only 2 hours left .


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 20787 comments Sorry, I'm working on the Sunday Update for NBRC. I'll get back to the DQs later.


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 20787 comments Are you listening to the audiobook, ShoSho?


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ShoSho  (shoshost) | 12263 comments yep my library only has them on audio so that's what I have.


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 20787 comments Are you liking the narrator?


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 20787 comments Sorry, I'm just finishing up some left over stuff from The TT Sunday Update. I don't think I'll get to the DQs tonight. Getting tired.


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ShoSho  (shoshost) | 12263 comments I've gotten used to him and he's getting better I think , I listened to a couple of minutes of one the later books and the saliva sounds weren't in there ! so I'm going with the audio for now.


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ShoSho  (shoshost) | 12263 comments Lisa Kay wrote: "Sorry, I'm just finishing up some left over stuff from The TT Sunday Update. I don't think I'll get to the DQs tonight. Getting tired."

:)That's ok by the time you get to them I've finished my book and we can talk about it!


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 20787 comments Yes, he reads a bit "wet." LOL!

Thanks, ShoSho. I think I'm going to go veg in front of the TV and eat my dinner. A big "no-no" - I know. But it is that kind of night.


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ShoSho  (shoshost) | 12263 comments lol why is it a big no-no?
when it's the 2 of us we always eat on our kitchen bar and watch TV. are we doing something wrong healthwise?


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 20787 comments Well, you are at the table. But studies show that people who to sit on the couch and eat "mindlessly" while they watch TV, usually don't watch their intake of food, let alone appreciate it aesthetically. Plus, they usually consume junk food. Some people refer to the TV as their "binge buddy."


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 20787 comments I'm calling it a night. I might check in one more time before I go to sleep, but I'm AFK for now.

**waves**


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ShoSho  (shoshost) | 12263 comments Lisa Kay wrote: "Well, you are at the table. But studies show that people who to sit on the couch and eat "mindlessly" while they watch TV, usually don't watch their intake of food, let alone appreciate it aesthet..."
Huh that definitely is not us!


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ShoSho  (shoshost) | 12263 comments Lisa Kay wrote: "I'm calling it a night. I might check in one more time before I go to sleep, but I'm AFK for now.

**waves**"


Have happy dreams:)


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ShoSho  (shoshost) | 12263 comments When I said I have 2 hours left, I was wrong! ¡ had more than 4 hours left. I have 44 minutes to go


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ShoSho  (shoshost) | 12263 comments I'm done and I'm not going to try and predict one of Harry Dresden books, I wasn't off that much but there was no way I could have seen what was what.


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 20787 comments BIG SPOILERS for the WHOLE BOOK follow!




So, don't read further...



... if you don't want to have things spoiled.



ShoSho’s Questions for Chapters 1-12, as Answered by Lisa Kay


1-Michael is one of Knights of the Sword, huh! I’m sure we hadn't met him in the previous books. I like to know how Harry and Michael met. Did he know Elaine? What do you think of him and his wife? He is too faithful for my taste, with all the you can’t lie even for the greater good and stuff!
Too faithful? LOL! Okay. I think some of Harry’s best scenes in the book are the ones with Michael. I love the….well, contrast, if you will, between their characters. I think Harry is a good person, but he doesn’t see himself a “good.” To me, it shows that there can be various kinds of good instead of just degrees. Just like his character juxtaposed to Murphy does, it shines a different light upon him.

But, you’re right, I’d like to know how he and Michael met, etc. A little background. Maybe we’ll get it in another book. I loved that Charity does particularly like Harry. LOL!


2-Do you have any theories about the chaos in the spirit realm and why the ghosts are going crazy?
No, I hadn’t a clue when I read it the first time. It helped to read it the second time, as I really picked up more clues that JB gave out.

3-I'm thinking there will be one person at the end who is responsible for all the stuff that has happened in the first 2 books and the ghost chaos and it is the same person who called Harry on the phone. The question is who? Any ideas?
Ah! You are so clever. I didn’t get that the first time I listened to it. I didn’t see that there in a thread tightly woven between these books. Some people felt that Murphy should have told Harry that Kravos was dead, that that was a hole in the plot; however, I agree with the people who think that she was about to tell him when Harry found her and his “double” at her office. Plus, it was a “hush-hush” incident before then.

4-Do you think Lydia was a genuine person in need or was she acting? Did he made a mistake in giving her his talisman? I LOLed at” nipple erection on command”! The incident at the church makes me trust Lydia a bit more but still I don’t trust her completely!
I’m one of those people who always go 50/50 on a person, until a little ways into the story. So, the first time I read this book, I didn’t trust Lydia completely, and was partly concerned it was a set-up. Even after the church, but maybe I was 75/25 then. LOL!

5-Hmm a fairy godmother, that was a new way to see a fairy godmother. Did I get that right? They have a contract and Harry has to give his life to her? Does it mean she wants to kill him or want him to spend his life serving her?
Well, I can’t remember what chapter it came out that she wanted him as one of her faithful hounds. But, you are right, that is a very different twist on a fairy godmother. Or should I say “twisted.” She a bit bi-polar, in my book. We still need to know exactly the back-story of her and Harry’s mother.

6-Lea found him really fast, do you think the same person is responsible and somehow helped her to find him?
Hmm… that is a good question. Even after reading the book for the second time. She has some way to keep tabs on Harry, but I’m not exactly sure how she does it. Nor what she really wants with him, because she was really upset that he took poison mushrooms to evade her. More disappointed that him just not being one of her faithful hounds. I’m betting she wants some so far undisclosed magical ability of his.

7-Do you think he really loves Susan? I don’t think so. I get his reason for not being able to say it but I don’t think he really does!
Well, at the beginning of the book, I didn’t think so, but I do now. What he said about the ability of those three little words really broke me up, both the first and second time. Very eloquently said, and I believe, very true.

8- Will he end up taking Susan to the vampire gathering?
I was pretty sure he wouldn’t, because he knows how very dangerous they are. I’m so naïve, I didn’t even think of her crashing neither the party, nor the consequences of her doing so. BTW, that Bianca is one scary, evil bitch, right? I was surprised she had so much to do with Kravos’ resurrection.


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 20787 comments ShoSho wrote: "I'm done and I'm not going to try and predict one of Harry Dresden books, I wasn't off that much but there was no way I could have seen what was what."

Yes it is a much more entwined, convoluted plot that the first two books. See why I re-read it? LOL!


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ShoSho  (shoshost) | 12263 comments Spoiler Alert

@ Lisa Kay

#1 . I like that he doesn't see himself as good but he's really a good person , it shows how he always wants to do the right thing.
Hopefully there will be some background info in the future books.

#3. when that cop gave him the book but didn't tell him what was going on I though that Kravos had escaped !

#6 how she found him so fast wasn't reveled even at the end . Did I miss that or Lea was working with Bianca ? Why was she all of a sudden so close to Bianca and vampires , and did we find out what was the gift Bianca gave her?

#7 . I could see at the end that he really loved her , he even asked her to marry him , poor Harry!

#8 . I was surprised too but Didn't she die?


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Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 20787 comments Spoiler Alert


Response to ShoSho...


#6 - No, we weren't told. I don't think she was "working-working" with Bianca. But, I've been wrong before. LOL! She could have given her the gift - whatever it was - to butter her up, so she didn't save Harry. However, Lea did intervene - in her own sneaky, indirect way - so, I'm thinking Bianca didn't realize how badly Lea want Harry.

#8 - I think we've learned no body is ever completely gone in this series. LOL!


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ShoSho  (shoshost) | 12263 comments Gisela wrote: "How do you feel about [spoilers removed]"

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