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message 1001: by Carolyn, The God of Angel Armies (new)

Carolyn (caroheartsbooks) | 9968 comments Mod
esther! and rahab! oh theres too many thank goodness heaven is forever


message 1002: by Jennah (new)

Jennah (strawberryblonde) Cartle wrote: "I've always loved the story of Naomi and Ruth. I could ask them so many questions. :)"

Very good story! Any woman can learn something from Ruth.


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Jennah (strawberryblonde) Rachel wrote: "Jennah wrote: "Rachel wrote: "Jennah wrote: "okkk moving on :)...Ice Breaker: Pick one person out of the Bible and what would be the one question you would love to ask them? You can have several qu..."

Ok, my memory of the that is starting to come back.


message 1004: by Jennah (new)

Jennah (strawberryblonde) ♥Caro♥ wrote: "esther! and rahab! oh theres too many thank goodness heaven is forever"

I actually can't wait to get to heaven! Every day I see something terrible happen, especially, when you get on the internet.


message 1005: by Carolyn, The God of Angel Armies (new)

Carolyn (caroheartsbooks) | 9968 comments Mod
Jennah wrote: "♥Caro♥ wrote: "esther! and rahab! oh theres too many thank goodness heaven is forever"

I actually can't wait to get to heaven! Every day I see something terrible happen, especially, when you get o..."


:( sad things horrible things...until theres so many it piles up and u dont feel anything


message 1006: by Jennah (new)

Jennah (strawberryblonde) yup. Until then, we will just have to deal what God tosses our way!


message 1007: by Carolyn, The God of Angel Armies (last edited May 28, 2013 06:50PM) (new)

Carolyn (caroheartsbooks) | 9968 comments Mod
yup ttyl gtg tomorrow


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♥Caro♥ wrote: "Jennah wrote: "♥Caro♥ wrote: "esther! and rahab! oh theres too many thank goodness heaven is forever"

I actually can't wait to get to heaven! Every day I see something terrible happen, especially,..."


ikr? It seems like I just get more and more numbed to death and stuff.


message 1009: by Ashley (new)

Ashley | 1541 comments I'd ask the disciples, Peter specifically, what some of the other miracles are that weren't recorded in the Bible. I remember there being this verse that said how Jesus had done countless other miracles that would fill thousands of books.


message 1010: by Carolyn, The God of Angel Armies (new)

Carolyn (caroheartsbooks) | 9968 comments Mod
ikr crazy! and u wonder if its u or the world..


message 1011: by Elizabeth, He Satisfies My Soul (new)

Elizabeth (elizabethnovak) | 1575 comments Mod
♥Caro♥ wrote: "esther! and rahab! oh theres too many thank goodness heaven is forever"

I'm with you. I'd love to meet these girls and ask them how they kept up the courage to do what they did.


message 1012: by Jennah (last edited May 31, 2013 06:04PM) (new)

Jennah (strawberryblonde) #21 Ice Breaker: If you were president what's one thing you would change?

I know most of us would have a TON of things we would change, but please pick one :).


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I would make abortion illegal. That would be my number one priority.


message 1014: by Rachel (new)

Rachel (hopeless-wanderer) Christal wrote: "I would make abortion illegal. That would be my number one priority."

same here. that or alcohol.


message 1015: by [deleted user] (new)

Oh yes. Alcohol. It causes so much pain and suffering in my neighborhood.


message 1016: by Ashley (new)

Ashley | 1541 comments I'd make gay marriage illegal


message 1017: by Rachel (new)

Rachel (hopeless-wanderer) Ashley wrote: "I'd make gay marriage illegal"

so would I


message 1018: by Ashley (new)

Ashley | 1541 comments It's just so.....sick, yah know?


message 1019: by Rachel (new)

Rachel (hopeless-wanderer) yes, I know!


message 1020: by Carolyn, The God of Angel Armies (new)

Carolyn (caroheartsbooks) | 9968 comments Mod
i'd do abortion first. bc it'd save lives


message 1021: by Carolyn, The God of Angel Armies (new)

Carolyn (caroheartsbooks) | 9968 comments Mod
yuuup and then crack down on backstreet abortion clinics


message 1022: by [deleted user] (new)

First allow God back in schools.


message 1023: by Carolyn, The God of Angel Armies (new)

Carolyn (caroheartsbooks) | 9968 comments Mod
thats important too :P


message 1024: by Sam (new)

Sam (Readlovelaughlive) | 4404 comments Above all, yes. Allow God back into schools.


message 1025: by Rachel (new)

Rachel Christal wrote: "Oh yes. Alcohol. It causes so much pain and suffering in my neighborhood."

The US tried that already! Prohibition. They had to repeal that amendment because so many people began to drink in secret and crime rose at the same time. Banning a substance like alcohol doesn't work because there will always be people who drink, and more people will drink just because it's illegal just like the first time. And more people got sick because the alcohol was poorly made. And there is nothing wrong with alcohol merely the abuse of it, and being in a sinful world, you can't legislate whether or not people abuse it. That's not the job of Christians anyway--to control what other people are allowed to do. We are responsible for our own actions and that's all...we can't pretend to be God; we aren't Judge; we aren't perfect. I understand your intent, but Christians made prohibition in the first place, and it failed horribly.


message 1026: by Rachel (new)

Rachel Jennah wrote: "#21 Ice Breaker: If you were president what's one thing you would change?

I know most of us would have a TON of things we would change, but please pick one :)."


It is evident that morality can't be policed or legislated against. For instance, there will always be people trying to abort babies and while I vastly disapprove of it, I don't think that would be a good goal because when it was used to be illegal, so many women died trying to get themselves out of "trouble." And since all licensing is legally set by the state and not the federal government, it'd be difficult to take away gay marriage either at this point. I think the more doable thing would be to allow Bibles and God back in schools officially so that studies wouldn't have to be student-started, student-led. Teachers of faith should be allowed to at least mention that fact to their students. You don't have to be irritating and in-your-face proselytizing, but if your students knew you were a person of faith, it would be easier for them to come to you with questions that might arise just because God was permitted to be mentioned at all.


message 1027: by [deleted user] (new)

Amen, Rachel.


message 1028: by Sam (new)

Sam (Readlovelaughlive) | 4404 comments That's exactly what I was thinking, Rachel, which is why I chose allowing God back into school as the only plausible option. Very good arguments made. It's really quite ironic, because my best friend is a public speaker and activist against abortion, speaking at the White House and Parliament, etc., and while I support her work and admire her zeal, I, frankly, would not make abortion illegal for reasons stated above.


message 1029: by Rose (new)

Rose (seekeroftruth) | 2966 comments Jennah wrote: "#21 Ice Breaker: If you were president what's one thing you would change?

I know most of us would have a TON of things we would change, but please pick one :)."


Either bring God back into schools or make abortion illegal.


message 1030: by Rose (new)

Rose (seekeroftruth) | 2966 comments Christal wrote: "Oh yes. Alcohol. It causes so much pain and suffering in my neighborhood."

People would still drink though, it would just be harder for them to get it.


message 1031: by Rachel (new)

Rachel Oh good, Cari and Sam, at least some people understand that. I studied a great deal about prohibition and about the development of successful, safe birth control methods and the eventual legalization of abortion and why it had to be done in high school. I don't like it, but the alternative is worse. I was afraid I would immediately be shouted down for saying what I have.


message 1032: by [deleted user] (new)

Rachel wrote: "Oh good, Cari and Sam, at least some people understand that. I studied a great deal about prohibition and about the development of successful, safe birth control methods and the eventual legalizati..."

What you said was only true, though. I completely understand your reasoning behind it.


message 1033: by Sam (new)

Sam (Readlovelaughlive) | 4404 comments Well, I am saying that abortion should stay legal, logically.


message 1034: by Rachel (new)

Rachel Abbey wrote: "So, Rachel, are you saying that abortion should be legal?"

I think it has to stay legal. To make it illegal would only make it less safe for the women would seek them out anyway. We would be repeating the days when women bled to death because of mangled back-alley abortions. Women have been aborting or attempting to abort babies for centuries, and legalizing abortion has saved the lives of many women. I do believe abortion is the murder of innocent children. I do find it very sad that it exists. But it wouldn't change the hearts and sinful desires of women to make abortion illegal again, and it would only put women in needless danger. Unfortunately, this is one of those issues where you have to decide for the lesser of two evils. A woman who has an abortion murders that life, but that innocent child goes back to God while if a woman tries to have an abortion and dies, there is a much higher likelihood that that woman will spend eternity in hell because she is responsible for her sins.


message 1035: by Sam (new)

Sam (Readlovelaughlive) | 4404 comments Rachel has stolen all my words ;)


message 1036: by Rachel (new)

Rachel (hopeless-wanderer) ugh! I wish we didn't have to deal with abortion at all! :'(


message 1037: by [deleted user] (new)

Abortion dates back to ancient times. It's always been around. Legal or illegal, people are not going to stop aborting babies.


message 1038: by [deleted user] (new)

Those are good reasons, Rachel. :) But making abortion legal just incourages women to have an abortion. Very few women try to kill their baby themselves, so very few babies would die if abortion was illegal.

Also, legalizing alcohol incourages people too, although banning it would have a lot of disadvantages.


message 1039: by [deleted user] (new)

If people can be so easily encouraged to commit acts of cruelty, then you have to question if they even had stable moral values to begin with.


message 1040: by [deleted user] (new)

Right. Less than half the people in the world have been taught good morals at all. I guess we shall have to try a lot harder to bring the Light into this world. :)


message 1041: by Carolyn, The God of Angel Armies (new)

Carolyn (caroheartsbooks) | 9968 comments Mod
makes sense. val had that arguement too. my only problem with that is that murder is the same as abortion and its not legal. murder being illegal doesn't stop it but it does punish ppl who do it.


message 1042: by Carolyn, The God of Angel Armies (new)

Carolyn (caroheartsbooks) | 9968 comments Mod
correct me go ahead that just popped into my head


message 1043: by Rose (new)

Rose (seekeroftruth) | 2966 comments ♥Caro♥ wrote: "makes sense. val had that arguement too. my only problem with that is that murder is the same as abortion and its not legal. murder being illegal doesn't stop it but it does punish ppl who do it."

That's what I think as well. If you make it illegal, then less people would have an abortion. Why not save as many as you can.


message 1044: by [deleted user] (new)

Rose wrote: "♥Caro♥ wrote: "makes sense. val had that arguement too. my only problem with that is that murder is the same as abortion and its not legal. murder being illegal doesn't stop it but it does punish p..."

Exactly!


message 1045: by Carson (new)

Carson Jennah wrote: "#21 Ice Breaker: If you were president what's one thing you would change?

I know most of us would have a TON of things we would change, but please pick one :)."


I would make it easier for people to become US citizens and work to defend our borders better. Defiantly something I would do.


message 1046: by [deleted user] (new)

Good choice, Cartle.


message 1047: by Carolyn, The God of Angel Armies (new)

Carolyn (caroheartsbooks) | 9968 comments Mod
Rose wrote: "♥Caro♥ wrote: "makes sense. val had that arguement too. my only problem with that is that murder is the same as abortion and its not legal. murder being illegal doesn't stop it but it does punish p..."

yeah. i think making abortion illegal is also a moral statement. telling God we will not allow people to kill our babies. even if ppl do illegally. abortion being legal is sorta saying oh its okay..


message 1048: by [deleted user] (new)

Jennah wrote: "#21 Ice Breaker: If you were president what's one thing you would change?

I know most of us would have a TON of things we would change, but please pick one :)."


I have no idea what I would change. There are so many things to change, so how can I choose one? I think that I would start taking control of the illegal immigration. It's just so out of hand, you know?


message 1049: by Carolyn, The God of Angel Armies (new)

Carolyn (caroheartsbooks) | 9968 comments Mod
i havent given much thought to illegal immigration..


message 1050: by [deleted user] (new)

Never mind. I totally and utterly agree with what Rachel said. I can't even believe that the thought of allowing God back into the schools didn't even cross my mind.


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