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Why Gin let Clementain to beat her up!
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UM.......I have know idea why she did that but you kind of have a point But i still love these books!!!!!
Yes, these books are great, but the problem is Gin has been made more skilfull and much more powerfull then her oponents. I gues author is trying to make up for it by making her recles and folish, when she schould make those oponents more poverful.
yeahyou have a point that probaly why but i kind of like her a bit foolish !!!!
i think it was because she used her power over rock ans was too exhausted to use the other one
That doesn't make any sence, because she let go of her powers to move statue it would take far less time, power or effort to send raw ise power right to Clementain and kill her. Plus if you read previos books then you should know that she schould have far more power then is shoved in this book.
Only reason to do it this way is to show that Gin can use her power more precisely now, but author found sily way to show it.
By the way if stone magick make Jins skin like stone How is it that Clementains hands wasnt all bloody?
This is a bit off topic but I love these books and wanted to direct this to others who love them..If Gin wrote a cookbook wouldn't you totally buy it!? I don't know what it is but I get hungry every time I get to her descriptions of cooking or serving. Ms Estep has such a simple but vivid way of writing those scenes.
I may just need to make something new for dinner.
Sorry for that interuption.. PS. Gin has all the jewelry: a cuff and doesn't she have a ring or locket to store extra "power" in?
wow...I couldn't understand half of what was said here. Please use spell check or something.I would love a cookbook!
Lisa wrote: "This is a bit off topic but I love these books and wanted to direct this to others who love them..If Gin wrote a cookbook wouldn't you totally buy it!? I don't know what it is but I get hungry e..."
I would totally buy the cookbook
To be honest she was fighting giants, never an easy fight. she'd used up a lot of her powers by the time she got to the major fight, she was bloody and bruised with major injuries as well. She only had 2 of her knives to start with. And she took a major beating ti give Owen and Eva time to get away. While I agree it would have been easy to freeze her, the fight would have been over really quick, not much of a great read, and like I said she'd used a lot of stone magic early and was nearly out of juice.
Matteo wrote: "To be honest she was fighting giants, never an easy fight. she'd used up a lot of her powers by the time she got to the major fight, she was bloody and bruised with major injuries as well. She only..."Compered to what she usualy used she berely touched her povers - I mean have you read previos books! Not to mention what she did took much more energy than kiling one person even giant.
Agree it wouldnt have been good fight scene, but this way it wasnt good either, becouse it in no way fits with what we know from previos books.
Author made her weaker then before and continued story as if she had been that weak all along.
There were so many ways to make fight believable and interesting. Like giving Clementain some fire pover so she cant be frozen, but insted Jennifer Estep created this ridiculos scenario.
In previous books - events over a period of a few weeks to months. This book happened in a single night - maybe a total time of 8-12 hours. Which means that she didn't have time to recharge as she normally would.
Delilah wrote: "In previous books - events over a period of a few weeks to months. This book happened in a single night - maybe a total time of 8-12 hours. Which means that she didn't have time to recharge as she ..."I was speaking of her using her povers in any single batle not in hole book.
The most she used her powers in any one book was with the vampire - shoot can't remember the name - With Owen's ex - but she had stored energy in 5 knives and her staff as well as her ring. This time she only had 2 knives and her ring. I didn't find it unreasonable.
Delilah wrote: "The most she used her powers in any one book was with the vampire - shoot can't remember the name - With Owen's ex - but she had stored energy in 5 knives and her staff as well as her ring. This ti..."Actualy she didnt use her povers that much in that book- becouse they were taken from her.
She used alot of her magic fighting Mab Monro, or in that cristal cave or in eny serios fight against another elemental.
Even in the first book fighting air elemental she in couple of minutes used more pover than in this hole book and she became much stronger with each book.
Also even before that when she fought other robers she was injured even tho in previos books she defieted much more poverfull oponents with ease.
It just seams to me that Gin all of the suden became 2 -3 times weaker than before withaut any explanation to it.
Gin still doesn't trust her ice magic, it comes easier than it did when she was learning how to freeze a glass of water, but when you are in a situation where you are running on instinct you go with what you comfortable with. She may not have believed that she had enough juice to liquid nitrogen a giant. Plus she was trying to make Clem give up clues to her employer.
Stephanie wrote: "Gin still doesn't trust her ice magic, it comes easier than it did when she was learning how to freeze a glass of water, but when you are in a situation where you are running on instinct you go wit..."Finaly! Answer that actualy has some logic behind it! Gin realy doesnt rely on her povers alot especialy ice povers.
That said she schould have known. I mean how much pover it takes to freaze airways, or lungs, or heart or any other important organ.
And stone magic should have worked to. For example in one of previos books was mentioned that you can turn oponents heart to stone with it.
Stephanie wrote: "Gin still ..., but when you are in a situation where you are running on instinct you go with what you are comfortable with..."I didnt notice it before, but this actualy is argument in my favor. She shuldnt have been comfortable with what she did. She never done anything like that before. So no blind instinctual reaction here.
The only reasons for author to make Gin kill Clementain in this maner is:1)to make fight last longer
2)to show how much more precise Gin is with her power (with I honestly dont see she done things far more precise before). It is abiosly gona be important in future books.
However Author didnt give any halfway deasent reason for Gin to do it in such a complicated way. Such reason caul have easily been created - for example Clementain could have some weak elemental powers - not enough to fight Gin autright, but enough that Clementain would have time to kill her before her povers are exausted.
Also, why Clementain bothered in first plase? Stone magic doesnt protect fom sufocation!
Lisa wrote: "This is a bit off topic but I love these books and wanted to direct this to others who love them..If Gin wrote a cookbook wouldn't you totally buy it!? I don't know what it is but I get hungry e..."
I'd love a cookbook from Gin. I know most other readers, I've seen in some of the reviews not enjoy all the descriptions of what she is cooking. But I absolutely LOVE IT. Also there is less of a chip on her shoulder I think when she cooks than in other aspects of the book. I swear I like Gen but man, when she is in full assassin mode, she has a total chip on her shoulder and just expects EVERYONE to accept all her actions because she loves them so much and HAS to do what she HAS to do as the assassin to save the day.
Dhfan4life wrote: "...Also there is less of a chip on her shoulder I think when she cooks than in other aspects of the book. I swear I like Gen but man, when she is in full assassin mode, she has a total chip on her shoulder and just expects EVERYONE to accept all her actions because she loves them so much and HAS to do what she HAS to do as the assassin to save the day. "That is all true, but weard part abaut it all is that people araund her so easily accept it. I mean how many people she has told abaut what she does and how few of them had any misgivings abaut her profesion.
And those who did have such misgivings all came araund to her way of thinking preaty soon. I always thought that it doesnt make any sence.
Also, I must say I am a bit disapointed in this discusion. I started this discusion to see your responces people. There is sos much that could be expanded on the subject - like if you agree or disagree exactly why. Or abaut other inconsistencies in this or any other book in the series.Or what I personaly find most intriguing is your theories of how this or any other scene could be improved.
Ansis wrote: "Dhfan4life wrote: "...Also there is less of a chip on her shoulder I think when she cooks than in other aspects of the book. I swear I like Gen but man, when she is in full assassin mode, she has a..."True enough. And as for theories about what other stuff could be improved, to me we'd be here for a whole other year entirely discussing that sorta thing. Pretty much writing is on the wall a bit with this author in regards to what she needs to improve and how many peeps have mentioned it in their reviews. So if you want further discussion and thoughts I'd say check out the reviews. Kind of what I do after each book I read. Can be a bit of a hoot.
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For example she could have easy freazed Clementaine to death. I mean she bearly used ice magick that day, based on previos boks, she should have more then enough pover to turn Clementain in giant popsicle in half a second flat.
Instead she makes up this ridiculos plan with a spear.