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Buddenbrooks: The Decline of a Family
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Buddenbrooks Discussion Threads > Week 3 - Buddenbrooks: May 27 - June 2. Until Part VI, chapter 4.

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Jan-Maat (janmaatlandlubber) Kalliope wrote: "I think that was part of the North-South cultural divide.. "

I'm not sure, some of the other families in Luebeck have leading men who spend their time down the club and at the theatre. The Buddenbrooks have a particular work ethic I feel (even by Northern standards).


Gary  the Bookworm (garmct) | 71 comments Tony is complicated but her most consistent trait is that she thrives on the luxurious life style which befits the status of her family. She was never going to be satisfied being ordinary and getting by. Tom is her brother and he is also the person who comes closest to sharing her ideals. Although he says she should have stayed in Munich, he goes along with her decision because he is as lonely as she is. They compliment each other in a way that is both beneficial and destructive.


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Diane Barnes Gary, I think you hit the nail on the head with the last sentence of your post. Beneficial and destructive indeed! They feed on each other.


Kalliope | 411 comments Mod
Jan-Maat wrote: "Kalliope wrote: "Yes, I think this is completely right. Religion brings outward respectability and also internal reassurance that their values and way of life were blessed by god. "

Hmm I just che..."


Jan-Maat, reading Mr. Happy's book
Savage Reprisals: Bleak House, Madame Bovary, Buddenbrooks, I come upon this:

"(Thomas Mann) calim that his representation of the Buddenbrooks had anticipated scholarly sociologists like Max Weber and others and offered a collective portrait of the modern Bügertum" (p 145)


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Jan-Maat (janmaatlandlubber) Thanks Kalliope! I suppose sociologists might be readers too :)


Kalliope | 411 comments Mod
Jan-Maat wrote: "Thanks Kalliope! I suppose sociologists might be readers too :)"

That's right. We will let them read as well.

I am glad you saw this post. I was not sure you would see one in an older thread.


ReemK10 (Paper Pills) | 20 comments Kalliope wrote: "Jan-Maat wrote: "Thanks Kalliope! I suppose sociologists might be readers too :)"

That's right. We will let them read as well.

lol@ you two.



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