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Tom Clancy:http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/...
I have these two books that don't show the series information:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/93...
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/11...
Again a comma problem?
Michael Cobley:http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/...
I have this book that don't show the series information:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12...
David Eddings:http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/...
Humm, I'll write about him in another thread. Something is really fishy here...
Raymond E. Feist:http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/...
These ones are wrong:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/82...
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/10...
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/92...
Gary Gibson:http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/...
The one book I have doesn't show the series info:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12...
William Gibson:http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/...
I only have one of his books registered:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/85...
On the shelf view it show up as Bigend, #3.
According to Wikipedia, the series name should not be Bigend, but Blue Ant Trilogy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_...
Helen Lowe:http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/...
The one book I have doesn't show the series info:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/98...
Michael G. Manning:http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/...
The three books show with series info, but is missing the comma before the #:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/11...
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12...
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13...
Steve McHugh:http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/...
One of them is missing the comma:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17...
John Meaney:http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/...
No series is shown for this one:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/77...
Karen Miller:http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/...
Missing commas in these ones:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31...
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/11...
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12...
Garth Nix:http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/...
Two of them show up as The Old Kingdom in my shelf:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/47...
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/47...
According to Wikipedia, it should be Abhorsen:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garth_Ni...
Hannu Rajaniemi:http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/...
On the shelf view it says The Quantum Thief Trilogy, but the book says something else:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/93...
Wikipedia think it should be The Jean le Flambeur series:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannu_Ra...
Matthew Reilly:http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/...
This one is wrong:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/97...
Alastair Reynolds:http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/...
All three are missing a comma:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/89...
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/53...
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/89...
Patrick Rothfuss:http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/...
This one has something wrong on my shelf:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/29...
This one doesn't show a series on my shelf:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/24...
Wikipedia calls the series The Kingkiller Chronicles:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_...
Nick Sagan:http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/...
Doesn't show a series on the shelf:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/11...
Charles Stross:http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/...
According to Wikipedia, the four books below should be in a series called The Laundry Files:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_...
According to the book cover, Laundry Files is probably more correct.
Nevertheless, there is problem with missing commas and different series names:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/64...
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/65...
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/86...
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12...
Brent Weeks:http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/...
This one is missing a comma:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58...
And that conclude the simple ones for now.Thanks for listening :-)
Henrik wrote: "Garth Nix:http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/...
Two of them show up as The Old Kingdom in my shelf:
http://www.goodrea..."
The Old Kingdom, or Abhorsen in North America, is a fantasy fiction series written for young adults by Australian author Garth Nix. It originated in 1995 with the novel Sabriel and has continued in novels Lirael (2001) and Abhorsen (2003), ...
It seems that it has a different title series dependent on where you live. I'm not sure which we should use.
Revelation Space seems to be part of two series but both are the same series and dependant on whether you look at a series as in release order or story time order one of the books is either #3 or #4 although I'm not sure how it could be #4 , it would be number 0.5 or .33 ! so need advice on that.
I can help with the editing, because it seems a lot, but i'll be home later today.
Henrik, commas aren't needed anymore. Though I do add them myself when creating books from force of habit.Jozef, As to the country dependent names of series, keep the existing name and put the 2nd one in the description field with an explanation.
It says to put them in in the guide Sandra, so i do. I noticed yesterday on someones books who was having an edit war didn't bother. Who ever it was kept deleting the series on each book entry so that they didn't show on the shelf. She kept adding them back but without commas. I notice the group series title on most dont have a comma. that leads to a difference in each view. I wish they'd just have one policy and stick to it, either with or without.
any thoughts on a the prequel that was released mid trilogy ? book 1
prequal
book 2
book 3
one lists book after the prequel as book 2,another series lists it as book 3
book 1
prequel 2
book 3
book 4
Sandra wrote: "Henrik, commas aren't needed anymore. Though I do add them myself when creating books from force of habit."But they do have a tremendous effect on the shelf view. If they are not there, sometimes the series isn't displayed.
A case from my shelf:
http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/...
Mod
No, that's not the cause. None of those have series information on the title line (it is considered optional at this point). I use commas when adding series to the title line (which I do sometimes but not always), but I wouldn't bother to edit it if someone else did not.
Mod
What does the author's website say?
If there's nothing contradictory there, the usual GR practice is to number full-length prequels as book 0, and put them first in the list. (Novella-length prequels are numbered .5, but also go before book 1.)
Thank you for all the editing done already :-)The ones that still looks fishy is the ones that Jozef has questions about:
Garth Nix:
http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/...
Number 3 still show up without the comma on the shlef view?
Alastair Reynolds:
http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/...
As to Jozef's question about the series, I found this reading guide about the chronological order together with a suggested reading order:
http://thewertzone.blogspot.dk/2009/0...
Then there is the authors own homepage:
http://www.alastairreynolds.com/novel...
Here he suggest to read the three main books in the series together and suggest any order for the rest.
rivka wrote: "No, that's not the cause. None of those have series information..."Could you explain then what the problem is?
Just so I know what to ask for for some of the other authors on my shelf :-)
Mod
Ahh, I see, I think... :-)So, like this one:
http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/...
My copy of the book is the one with ISBN=1906735646, the second one on this list:
http://www.goodreads.com/work/edition...
So, because it has a listed title of "The Noise Within (Paperback)" on the editions list, it doesn't show series information on the shelf view.
So, why does it have "(Paperback)" in its title on the edition list?
Trying to grasp it. If this is already described somewhere, then just shake a stick at me and tell me to RTFM! ;-)
When a book is added the title is put in and then if its part of a series it should but as Rivka says, it is optional, have the series written in brackets after the title. Then the whole book is added to a series list and numbered. This list ads the series after the title when you view the book but wont add it to the shelf view. To get the shelf view to be correct it needs adding to each book.
I like it to be there. I like to use a comma between the series title and series number too.
So you need to ask for the series info to be added to the individual book entry.
I'll have a look later as i've got to go out now.
Mod
That page shows formats that way. They are not on the title line.
Thanks for the explanation.As for the series numbering of the Alastair Reynolds books, perhaps message 17,25 in this thread can be used:
http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/4...
So, one series in chronological order and one in preferred reading order (for example as described on The Wertzone site). And perhaps one using publication order...
Personally, I would prefer the main series order to be the one described by The Wertzone, but would also accept chronological order as well.
Argh, glad I'm not a Librarian ;-)
rivka wrote: That page shows formats that way. They are not on the title line."Unless it has series information in its title, or what?
I have spotted multiple series in my shelf with messy seires information in the title that results in non-optimal descriptions in the shelf view.
To start:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/15...
It does not contain the series in the shelf view:
http://www.goodreads.com/review/list/...
I think there is a comma missing before the #.
Regards,
/Henrik