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The Assassination of Adolf Hitler
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message 51: by John, Moderator in Memory (new)

John | 834 comments Mod
Yvonne wrote: "... couldn't I just kidnap him instead? :-) ..."

Yes you may. If you look at the original question, it says who would you most want to "eliminate." No killing is necessary. There are other ways to take them out of the equation.


message 52: by Lance (new)

Lance Greenfield (lancegreenfieldmitchell) | 156 comments Good on ya, Harv! I like that one. You are a man of culture!


message 53: by Vickie (new)

Vickie | 63 comments Oh dear. I'm not at all sure whether or not I would assassinate anyone from the past. I am a firm believer in both the Law of Unintended Consequences and Be Careful What You Wish For. As bad as Mao or Stalin or Pol Pot were, I'm still somewhat reluctant to take a chance on eliminating them in case my actions led to something even worse.

I'm one of those people who would probably tell the genie from the magic lamp "No thank you" when he offered me 3 wishes. :-)


message 54: by Harv (new)

Harv Griffin | 83 comments Piero wrote: "I would travel a couple of years ago and kill the other 'me', to see if I would still exist after ;)"

Hey, Piero!

The Russians have Russian Roulette. And now us Time Travelers have your plan: Time Traveler Roulette. I'd be too afraid to try to kill my earlier self, and would be more inclined to pass along sexual tips for pleasing the ladies. @hg47


message 55: by Yvonne (last edited Apr 03, 2013 03:14PM) (new)

Yvonne Jocks | 26 comments Tej wrote:
Nope im only assassinating (well stopping, assassinate is last resort) other time travellers from changing the past :) time travel to observe or to protect history is not punishable methinks

Thank goodness -- Phineas and Jeffrey are safe!


message 56: by Harv (new)

Harv Griffin | 83 comments Vickie wrote: "Oh dear. I'm not at all sure whether or not I would assassinate anyone from the past. I am a firm believer in both the Law of Unintended Consequences and Be Careful What You Wish For. As bad as Mao..."

I sympathize with your view, Vickie. Kill a past Bad Guy, and yes, it is possible that a worse evil doer might move in to fill the vacuum. Even if a time traveler like you or me were inclined to eliminate a Hitler or a Stalin, actually killing the Bad Guy at the peak of his power would be the wrong move, in my opinion. Far better to make a subtle move to crush them politically early on in their careers, through insider knowledge of key historical events. Cheers! @hg47


message 57: by Amy, Queen of Time (new) - rated it 5 stars

Amy | 2208 comments Mod
Harv wrote: "Pass me a toga. I'm going back in time to kill the guy who burned down the Library of Alexandria. Should I set him on fire instead? @hg47"

Hmm ... I think we should ask one of the Pauls since he's solve this problem by unburning Alexandria.


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Debbie | 84 comments I would go back and assinate my great, great grandfather and then wait and see what happens....
No, I would actually like to assassinate Hitler, but he is the subject of the book.
So, I will choose Hitler's mother, before she gives birth to any children.


message 59: by Amy, Queen of Time (new) - rated it 5 stars

Amy | 2208 comments Mod
Debbie wrote: "I would go back and assinate my great, great grandfather and then wait and see what happens....
No, I would actually like to assassinate Hitler, but he is the subject of the book.
So, I will choose..."


While we're on the subject of preventing Hitler ... I keep thinking that the easiest way would be to keep Hitler's parents from ever getting together in the first place ... or be the boyfriend/girlfriend thief themselves.


message 60: by Howard (new)

Howard Loring (howardloringgoodreadscom) | 1177 comments Sorry for the delay in this, been otherwise occudied.

Amy wrote: ‘Why in the world would you oppose…’

Amy, I think you’re confusing two different mindsets.

All humans must follow a MANDATE, an unchanging foundation found at the roots of any society & so citizens, regardless of Timeframe live by an already in place, set order, the ‘norms’ of their lives, the truisms that dictate the ‘way thinks are’ that then become the very ideals by which they live during their span.

Yet, at the SAME TIME, all humans also have a personal QUEST, a singular journey they must take regardless of, yet still within the set Mandate & here the choices are not dictated but unique, in that everyone must make their own decisions & they must do this by interpreting their own dimensions to the set norm.

Operating within these two concepts is what humans do, always making personal choices defined by some function of the two.

As I see it, your QUEST is justice regardless of MANDATE, but her QUEST is to protect her MANDATE’s narrow definition of justice.

Two different things really, once you establish the Jargon.


message 61: by Todd (new)

Todd (footnotes) | 2 comments I'd go back in time and irradiate Jack Ruby so that he'd die of cancer before everyone figured out what really happened with JFK.


message 62: by Todd (new)

Todd (footnotes) | 2 comments Ignore my previous post.


message 63: by John, Moderator in Memory (new)

John | 834 comments Mod
Okay, so it is time to pick a winner. Let me put everyone's name in a hat and draw a winner. I will be back in a few minutes to announce the results.


message 64: by John, Moderator in Memory (new)

John | 834 comments Mod
And the winner is...


message 65: by John, Moderator in Memory (new)

John | 834 comments Mod
Linda D.

Congratulations Linda. I will send M.R. a message and ask him to contact you to arrange for delivery of your free book. Feel free to contact him yourself to help expedite the process.

Thank you to everyone who participated in this month's giveaway. Be sure to tune in on May 1 for our next one. The featured book for our next scheduled giveaway will be The Time Portal by Joe Corso and Deborah McCarthy.


message 66: by chvang (new) - added it

chvang | 14 comments I think I love you, Harv.

Go for Caesar, because it was his siege of Alexandria that burned down the royal library, the one with all the good stuff.

As for me, Kim Il Sung. No Korean War means the US never remobilizes, no giant defense-industrial complex, the US isn't so threatened that it backs away from its proposal to place all nuclear weapons under the control of an international body, and other grand things down the line.

Or, the Dutch traders who first brought slavery over to the United States, the navigator who first brought the colonists from Barbados to Charleston (which means a United States without the Deep South), Lloyd George before replaces Asquith (buying time for Wilson, who has just won his reelection, to negotiate a peace with the Germans, which Chancellor Bethmann-Hollweg dearly wanted).

An aside: There was no need to assassinate Hitler; all that was needed is to convince the conservatives the stupidity of giving the Nazis the Chancellorship.

Also, relevant


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chvang | 14 comments Damn, missed it.


message 68: by Amy, Queen of Time (new) - rated it 5 stars

Amy | 2208 comments Mod
Chang wrote: "Also, relevant "

Hartler. Ha. Oops. I guess someone already screwed us over with their time travel meddling.


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Tej (theycallmemrglass) | 1731 comments Mod
Congratulations Linda!!! Enjoy the book, look forward to your thoughts/review :)

This was another fun competion, despite the fact my existence was nesrly erased. I enjoyed reading who everyone wanted to kill...what a dark and sinister group we are!

Still cant get over with Lincolm wanting to assassinate George Lucas, i challenge you to a lightsabre duel...and i warn you, my one is a double balde....


message 70: by M.R. (new)

M.R. Dowsing | 13 comments It seems we have a winner! Thanks to everybody who joined in - I greatly enjoyed reading all the different responses.


message 71: by Lincoln, Temporal Jester (new)

Lincoln | 1290 comments Mod
Tej wrote:

Still cant get over with Lincolm wanting to assassinate George Lucas, i challenge you to a lightsabre duel...and i warn you, my one is a double balde....

Tej I accept your challenge and defend my honor. We will meet at noon at the flag pole and my double bladed sabre will take on your double balde sabre.

However, I must also point out it was Alex who wanted to assassinate George Lucas, I simply said I would like it if Qui-Gon Jinn would of killed Anakin Skywalker.

Also I feel cheated by the system here...its random drawing from a hat? I thought it was going to be the best answer as determined by M.R.


message 72: by Amy, Queen of Time (new) - rated it 5 stars

Amy | 2208 comments Mod
Lincoln wrote: "Also I feel cheated by the system here...its random drawing from a hat? I thought it was going to be the best answer as determined by M.R. "

Yes, apparently, creativity doesn't count, but it does make for fun discussion.

When I asked John the exact method he uses to determine the winner, this was his answer (no hat involved):
"In order to pick a giveaway winner, I make a list of everyone who has posted a response (unless they ask to be excluded). I then number the list and use an online random number generator (www.random.org) to pick a number from one to whatever the top number is for the number of entries that month. To make it even more random, I click the "generate" button 10 times and go with whatever number it gives me on the tenth try."


message 73: by Lincoln, Temporal Jester (new)

Lincoln | 1290 comments Mod
The discussion got dangerously political...I did my best to bring in fictional characters...I was going to resolve the grandfather paradox once and for all...We were going to stop Lincoln and Kennedy from being assassinated, we were going to stop the Great War from ever happening, we were going to unburn Alexandria....But yeah "I want that book" will suffice next time huh?

Love the discussion everyone and please disregard my soap box rant.


message 74: by Amy, Queen of Time (new) - rated it 5 stars

Amy | 2208 comments Mod
Lincoln wrote: "But yeah "I want that book" will suffice next time huh?

Oh, but what's the fun in that? You do actually have to answer the discussion question to get your name of the list, so we do make you earn your keep.


message 75: by Lincoln, Temporal Jester (new)

Lincoln | 1290 comments Mod
Thanks Amy!! I will bring my "A" game and I apologize if my whine-o attitude has offended anyone. I really do enjoy the group discussions.


message 76: by Amy, Queen of Time (last edited Apr 09, 2013 04:06PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Amy | 2208 comments Mod
Lincoln wrote: "Thanks Amy!! I will bring my "A" game and I apologize if my whine-o attitude has offended anyone. I really do enjoy the group discussions."

We'll just be sure to keep you out of the time machine ... (too much mischief)


message 77: by Harv (new)

Harv Griffin | 83 comments Chang wrote: "I think I love you, Harv.

Go for Caesar, because it was his siege of Alexandria that burned down the royal library, the one with all the good stuff.

As for me, Kim Il Sung. No Korean War means th..."


Hey, Chang!

Thanks for the interesting links. Good point about The Royal Library versus the Library of Alexandria. But if I can save either library, I'll be thrilled.

Having some problems, though. Made 21 time travel trips so far, but every time I save the royal library or the general Library of Alexandria from destruction, or both, I run up against Vickie's Law of Unintended Consequences. If I save the royal library, I don't seem to exist in 2013, because I keep flickering and fading from view. It is scary! (Oh, and Steve Jobs is President, a meat-eater, and never got cancer!) So I keep going back to try again. When I save the general Library of Alexandria and then come back to 2013, GoodReads does not exist on the Internet. I ask you: Is that a fair exchange?

@hg47


message 78: by chvang (last edited Apr 11, 2013 06:53PM) (new) - added it

chvang | 14 comments For all those Greeco-Roman porn? Yep.

But I'm biased. That's what I get for my parents using the library as daycare. :)


Grumpus | 28 comments I don't write poems especially in reviews but as I read this book, I could not get this famous one out of my head. So, I adapted it to my review. I hope you like it!

http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/...


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