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Shera (Book Whispers) (sherabookwhispers) | 2569 comments Joanna wrote: "But Shelfari joined Amazon too LOL theyre all family now"

Yeah, and a I loathe it.


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Joanna Marie (joannacapats) I didnt like it either just like what Carla said :'(


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Amyiw | 177 comments Shera (Book Whispers) wrote: "Yeah, that's why I love Goodreads is because you have the freedom to review as you want! Amazon has blocked so many of my 1 to 2 star reviews. Even though they were well thought out and were withi..."

They also block links. I love that you can link to smashwords and other books sites and point to freebees. At Amazon that is not possible. Also the blocking of the poor reviews for those books they promote.

I also think that using the Goodreads apps for Android, iPhone, or Facebook to promote their agenda is not what I signed up for.

Library Thing is 40% owned by Amazon. It was 40% bought by Abe Books but guess what? Amazon bought out Abe Book too. Amazon has cornered the book market and is forcing the competition down. Book Depository was one of my favorite competitors to Amazon, now there is no competitive prices. I don't even bother going there. Abe Books was a great used site. Alibris is still independent but I suspect they would like buy them too.

Amazon took over my favorite one sale a day site Woot. After going every day for 3 years and buying things once or twice a month, the great deals ended. I still went every day for at least 3 months and then realized that I hadn't bought anything since it was taken over. I continued for 6 months. Their deals are just the regular Amazon Gold Box and nothing incredibly special.

So far Amazon has ruined two of my favorite sites, and a few of my not so favorite but sometimes used sites. I don't have a lot of hope that they will not put their heave handiness in here to make it less friendly. Still Goodreads isn't about selling so maybe it won't be so bad and just targeted advertising. I really hope that is all.

I love Amazon right now but only as Amazon. I don't want them to take over all the competition, that is called monopoly. I hate that they are killing the competitions. I want competition in my book's prices.


Shera (Book Whispers) (sherabookwhispers) | 2569 comments Yeah, Woot is just not the same anymore.


Shera (Book Whispers) (sherabookwhispers) | 2569 comments Amyiw wrote: "Shera (Book Whispers) wrote: "Yeah, that's why I love Goodreads is because you have the freedom to review as you want! Amazon has blocked so many of my 1 to 2 star reviews. Even though they were w..."

Oh, and I've noticed that Amazon has been having pretty low prices on their paperback books now, but the Kindle copies cost more. It's so strange.


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Amyiw | 177 comments Shera (Book Whispers) wrote: "Oh, and I've noticed that Amazon has been having pretty low prices on their paperback books now, but the Kindle copies cost more. It's so strange. "

I buy the cheapest version, in fact the paperback is better because it can be loaned for a lot of reads vs the one loan Kindle book. I'm a big used book fan. Yes, I also have a Kindle. It is such a love/hate relationship. I think a lot of people feel the same way.


Shera (Book Whispers) (sherabookwhispers) | 2569 comments Yeah, I agree. Kindle actually took back one of the books that I had purchased . . . than gave me a tamer version of the book . . .

Ya can't do that with printed copies. At the same time I love all the free classics and other books . . . it is definitely a love/hate relationship.

Though I will confess I use my Sony more.


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Cozen | 42 comments Kristen wrote: "Like those before me I am very upset about this. I have been a member since 2010. I love the fact that I am not required to have a link to FB or any other place to be able to come here. I have been..."

The FB link up is true to an extent. If you have Goodreads on you ipad for an app, you are asked to link up with Fb and/or one other like twitter or e-mail (can't recall off the top of my head right now).


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Cozen | 42 comments Wattpad I also think has some connection here. I like that site.


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Cozen | 42 comments Amyiw wrote: "Shera (Book Whispers) wrote: "Yeah, that's why I love Goodreads is because you have the freedom to review as you want! Amazon has blocked so many of my 1 to 2 star reviews. Even though they were w..."

One thing to note here though, self published books are flooding the gates as e-book. I am particularly irratated with them for several reason (for a later time) and there currently is no way to tell which ones are before you purchase a book and find all sorts of miss spelled words and grammar issues in them.

What has it to do with this comment? Well self published works set their own price for their books and set that price the same everywhere like at, Amazon, and Lulu for a few. They just standardize the books so there can't be a competitive market for them.

It's like a whole bunch of B-rated movies being passed as blockbuster hits, just no one knows until the monster is caught wearing a zipped up suite and it's subtilted in portegesse.


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Natasha (Natashaaarose) | 3 comments I'm kind of okay with it but I just hope that they do not change the way goodreads is set out as it functions really well for all of its members


Erin *Proud Book Hoarder* (erinpaperbackstash) Shera (Book Whispers) wrote: "Yeah, I agree. Kindle actually took back one of the books that I had purchased . . . than gave me a tamer version of the book . . .

Ya can't do that with printed copies. At the same time I love a..."


I dont buy ebooks on Amazon but I do get some of the free ones :)

I noticed the opposite. I placed an order this month and the prices on the paperbacks seem suddenly higher than before :(


Shera (Book Whispers) (sherabookwhispers) | 2569 comments Really. Right now they should be going even lower, Overstock and Amazon are having a price war right now. (Personally Overstock is winning, but hey!)


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Anne Berkeley (aberkeley) Like Facebook, I'm afraid of all the ads that'll start popping up.


Shera (Book Whispers) (sherabookwhispers) | 2569 comments Too late for that Anne. GR has a massive amount of adds and cookies. Boy do they have cookies.


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Nancy Bout (nancybout) | 96 comments my guess is amazon wants to know exactly what each of us are trading or want to read and promote their books.I happen to live hostages as is, but I maybe be surprised and like a revamped version lol
however...why does amazon NEED good reads? I'm skeptical


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Blue Bates I like buy books off of Amazon, and I like to read reviews off of GoodReads. I think the thing I fear the most is not seeing negative reviews. Everything on Amazon is highly rated. The reviews promoting the book are highlighted. I'm fearful that a merge between the two will take away some of the honesty of the reviewers and make it look like the Amazon reviewers page.


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Piper Should the unthinkable happen!!! - there are many other websites that review different genres of books, especially Paranormal.


Shera (Book Whispers) (sherabookwhispers) | 2569 comments Blue wrote: "I like buy books off of Amazon, and I like to read reviews off of GoodReads. I think the thing I fear the most is not seeing negative reviews. Everything on Amazon is highly rated. The reviews prom..."

That's one of my biggest fears as well. Goodreads has really spoiled me, and it's saved me from many a bad book.


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Dianne Duvall (dianne_duvall) | 23 comments Shera (Book Whispers) wrote: "Yeah, I agree. Kindle actually took back one of the books that I had purchased . . . than gave me a tamer version of the book . . .

That is so weird. I've never heard of this. Although I did get an email from Amazon once, letting met know that an author had revised a book I had purchased on Kindle and removed some of the erotic scenes readers had found to be too much (or something along those lines). Whether or not I updated to the new version of the book, however, was left up to me.


Shera (Book Whispers) (sherabookwhispers) | 2569 comments You can turn off updates for books. But I deleted my copy of my kindle and when I re-downloaded it the "revised" version was downloaded.

If you don't have autmatic updates for books you don't have to worry. Unless you have to re-download.


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Dianne Duvall (dianne_duvall) | 23 comments Ah. I must not have automatic updates turned on. Good.

Does anyone know when whatever changes Amazon intends to make to Goodreads might begin to take effect? (If this has already been addressed, I apologize. I've been trying to keep up with this topic, but have about 40 promo deadlines I need to meet before my next book hits shelves on October 1st, so I haven't been able to lurk as often.)


Shera (Book Whispers) (sherabookwhispers) | 2569 comments They haven't officially posted anything. I did notice the ampt up ads, that's about it.

Hopefully they'll do an official post for major changes. The GD feature on Kindle is the only true official thing I know about, for the new kindle white.


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Maria Schneider (bearmountainbooks) The new ads I'm seeing on my Home feed are saying:

Based on your DNF shelf, you might like...

So much for automating ads. The thing isn't smart enough to figure out that DNF is Did Not Finish. I see that "recommendation" more often than any of my other shelves!


Shera (Book Whispers) (sherabookwhispers) | 2569 comments That's epic!!! That recommends thing is driving me crazy!


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Maria Schneider (bearmountainbooks) Shera (Book Whispers) wrote: "That's epic!!! That recommends thing is driving me crazy!"

I laugh every time it picks a book from my DNF and says, 'Because this book was on your shelf..."

Or it just picks the "maybe later" or "dnf" shelf. I giggled myself silly the first few times.


Shera (Book Whispers) (sherabookwhispers) | 2569 comments No. What i love is when my werewolf shelf pops up . . . and it's recomending vampire reads. Or better yet murder mysteries.


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Robin (robinpickell) | 1138 comments May I ask a Q re: recommending shelves?

If so, what do I do when I clicked no recommendations for a specific shelf, but when I go looking, those shelves are there? If anyone can help me, I'd be thankful.

& I agree some of the recs don't match what's on the shelves. Maybe I am not specific enough?


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Maria Schneider (bearmountainbooks) Robin, I haven't got a clue. I just laugh at the things. I have clicked on some of the recs, but none of them have been anything I want to read so far.

Shera, come ON. It KNOWS that secretly you are into dead guys. Because you love taking out the trash yourself. You know the dead guy won't do it. He's back in his coffin when it's time for breakfast and jobs and chores and such!!


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