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Ikonopeiston
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Apr 08, 2009 08:00AM
Misfit, try Addall.com. They have a slew of these books ("Queen of Lions") for one dollar and up.
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With a little research I find that Alan Savage is one of many pseudonyms of Christopher Nichole. The guy is a truly prolific author (b 1930) and what his books seem to have in common is they are all historical. I can't say I've come across too many of them, and only the Savage ones look medievaly.
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Ooh, I like that word. I found one at Alibrus for $2+ change and shipping. The site Ikon mentioned when I searched by ISBN gave different results. I'll keep my fingers crossed until I get shipping confirmation.
This might be fun, I'm running out of material for Wall-Banger Wednesdays. Going to have to get some guest posters. Volunteers???
I haven't read any of the Savage books, but have read "The Other Bolelyn Girl" and was rather underwhelmed by it. I kept wondering--where's the beef?
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BTW, did you all hear about the new paranormal book set in Henry VIII's court? A believe there's a vampire twist to it, http://www.amazon.com/Royal-Blood-Ron...
Look at the cover images, and you can search inside and read some of the excerpts :0
For once I'm glad the library isn't getting this one, I might be tempted to get it out just for fun.
Sweet jeezus! And the title is the same as our current group book. If I am going to read of a vampire in historical settings, I think I shall stick to Saint-Germaine. Could it be that writers are running our of permutations on the Tudor story?
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And Harriet knows good literature when she comes across it. She can spot it from afar and bestow the tribute of her imprimatur without even slowing down. I took a look both at the first pages and the 'surprise me' bits. Michael seems to spend much of his time tilting and being surprised by blows to his helmet. Wouldn't you think he might get used to it after a while? I seems pretty standard medieval festival fare. I kept expecting one of the wenches to burst into a bout of twentieth century profanity when she dropped a tankard or something. Not my vial of blood, I fear.
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Misfit wrote: "Hee, she does "read" an eclectic assortment of books, doesn't she?"I added to my earlier comment to reflect my feeling after reading some excerpts. Dear Harriet ... whatever would Amazon be without her?
The National Archives has an online exhibit of some of Henry VIII's documents and illustration. You can find them here: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/he...
Misfit wrote: "Hee, she does "read" an eclectic assortment of books, doesn't she?"Misfit, is the vampires in Tudor Court a spin-off of the Twilight series (or maybe because of its popularity)? Or, does it stem from the Pride and Prejudice and Zombies book newly released (or to be released). I saw the Pride/Prejudice/Zombies at USA Today and it got me wondering. I probably won't read either one. But, thanks!
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Wanda, you're not kidding this time are you?
As for spin offs from Twighlight who knows? I guess vampire books have been popular for along time. Not my thing though.
While I'm not usually fond of the horror genre, I have enjoyed some vampire books and TV. I loved the first three vampire books by Anne Rice ("Interview with the Vampire", "The Vampire Lestat", and "The Queen of the Damned"). I've also enjoyed the HBO series, True Blood, but I think I'll pass on the Pride & Prejudice Zombies--it could be good, but my gut reaction is YUCK!
Misfit wrote: ""I saw the Pride/Prejudice/Zombies at USA Today"Wanda, you're not kidding this time are you?
As for spin offs from Twighlight who knows? I guess vampire books have been popular for along tim..."
Oh, no, Misfit - I am not kidding. Go to USAToday.com, Life Section, Books and you will see the cover of Pride and Prejudice with a zombie face superimposed over the young girl. It's very unattractive and kind of scary. The cover alone makes me say "No." I only really like the classic vampire - Dracula. (Maybe we could nominate him for the October Victorians read?) And, I don't want Pride & Prejudice bastardized with zombies and other weird nonsense. But, on the other hand, maybe it will inspire younger readers to read the real classics.
I'm back in town!Coming back from vacation today, I read Eleanor Fairburn's The Rose in Spring, the first of her four-part series of novels about Cecily, Duchess of York. It was interesting to read about Cecily's early years, though the book nearly hit the cabin wall when I came to the scene where Jacquetta Woodville hosts a dinner party for the Yorks and other nobles to celebrate the Greek Festival of the Dead. The room is decorated with stars and planets, wands, and pentacles, and is lit with black wax candles. Jacquetta treats the guests to a Tarot reading after the meal. Oh, yes, that's exactly how to make a good impression on the cream of the English nobility, especially not long after Joan of Arc has been burned at the stake--openly parade oneself as a witch. I've got the second and third books in the series but am not sure if I can struggle through them.
MAP, saw your post on the Richard III Yahoo group about Henry VII. Would you be in the market for a bulletproof vest?
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It can be nasty there for dissenters. One lady who wrote English as a second language posted some very polite anti-Richard sentiments on a Yahoo group, Sceptred Isle, where some of the Ricardians from that group hang out. It developed into a nasty exchange where some of the Ricardians ended up making fun of the woman's English (which was pretty good considering she wasn't a native speaker) and her name--calling her "Miss Anagram." I myself posted early in the exchange and was accused of being on a par with Fox News, which was quite laughable given my political persuasion. The end result was that the grown-ups gave up in disgust and left the discussion, leaving the Ricardians in question to declare victory.I should add that the Yahoo group isn't typical of the Richard III Society as a whole, which has many members with whom one can civilly debate.
So, we should not celebrate the death of that poltroon who hid behind his troops and watched a better man cut down by traitors? I echo the prevailing mood of the group.
Ikonopeiston wrote: "So, we should celebrate the birth of that poltroon who hid behind his troops and watched a better man cut down by traitors? I echo the prevailing mood of the group. "I'm not a fan of Henry VII, but I wouldn't call Richard III a better man, though of course I believe he killed the Princes in the Tower and I doubt that he had any legal justification for killing Hastings, Grey, Anthony Woodville, and Edward V's elderly chamberlain, Thomas Vaughn. As for Henry Tudor hiding behind his troops, since Richard III came very near to killing him, he couldn't have been all that well hidden.
He cowered behind his huge standard bearer. It was only Richard's courage and skill at arms which got him within striking range. Oh, that he had had just a little more time to reach the Welshman. *sigh*
All I said was "unpopular" didn't = "bad" and that he wasn't unpopular because he was "mean" but because he was stingy (which is a different def for the word "mean" of course).I feel that in a group that supposedly touts the importance of history, I have a right to point out that whoever the original poster was misattributed the reasons for his not being popular.
If that makes ME unpopular, then so be it. :)
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Henry VII was a deeply unpopular king; but having said that, who wasn't? Edward IV was regarded as a tyrant for much of his reign, raising taxes under false pretences and fiddling with the inheritance of land to suit his family. (I am trying to be neutral here, and not say 'the Woodvilles'.) Richard III was certainly popular in Yorkshire, but I'd be hard pressed to demonstrate he was a popular king in England generally - his team's presentational skills were poor. Henry VI was revered in a way for his piety, but his administration was not only unpopular, but grossly incompetent.I'm really struggling to think of a sovereign who was genuinely popular - as opposed to tolerated or feared.
Maybe Edward III in his heyday, but his reign turned to the solid stuff...
I'm not sure if this is the right place, but I just started reading Margaret Campbell Barnes's My Lady of Cleves (which covers a lot of the same ground as Philippa Gregory's Boleyn Inheritance but which is already about 500 times better!) Henry is selfish and whiny and petulant, but actually human and I really like her version of Hans Holbein.
Anne of Cleves (and Henry VII's tomb) also made an appearance on the newest episode of The Simpsons last night. She had a British accent, but otherwise...
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http://www.amazon.com/review/RPZRVHPU...
Click on old "Buckaroo's" profile and then click on the Wish List. Compare the name on the wish list to the name of the author who wrote the book.
I don't understand why books have trailers and commercials in the first place. Out of spite, I almost make it a practice to NOT buy or read any book that I've seen advertised via commercials.
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I must confess that sometimes a nice cover will suck me in :D (Like my paperback copy of Posession, which had a beautiful Edward Burne-Jones reproduction and which I purchased largely because of that. It turned out wonderfully because I loved the book, but sometimes I have been very annoyed by excellent cover designs!)I read a lot of book reviews and go by them and/or friends' recommendations.
You might enjoy these two covers. Royal Scandal actually has a Ricardian connection--the author wrote a pro-Richard nonfiction book, the name of which I can't remember. Royal Scandal is about Katherine Howard, Madame Serpent about Catherine de Medici. Pretty hot, or what? Haven't read the Plaidy yet, but the Lindsay book is quite staid in comparison to its cover.
Philip Lindsay's book on Richard is called 'The Duke is Served'. On the rare occasion I've located a copy it's been at a silly price, so I haven't bothered. The general feel of Lindsay's books (where they are WoTR era) is pro York, and pro Richard. Very!
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The one I was thinking of is The Tragic King. The title says it all.
Misfit wrote: "What covers! Does Tanzanite know about these?"I had them on my blog a long time ago. Don't know if she was stopping in back then!
Royal Scandal also has an advertisement in back for a Lindsay book called Merry Mistress, about Jane Shore "who became mistress to King Edward IV at the age of 16--and lived to rule all England from her boudoir."
That busty 25 year old blonde is supposed to be Catherine Howard? Wow! Catherine Howard WISHES.
MAP wrote: "That busty 25 year old blonde is supposed to be Catherine Howard? Wow! Catherine Howard WISHES."You do have to admire her initiative, though, in managing to find a hair stylist that would give her the first permanent wave in the Tudor court.
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Here's my entry into the Biggest and Pointiest Hennin cover contest. And then I promise, I'll lay off the covers. For a while, anyway. This one's about Margaret of Anjou.
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Susan wrote: "Here's my entry into the Biggest and Pointiest Hennin cover contest. And then I promise, I'll lay off the covers. For a while, anyway. This one's about Margaret of Anjou.She looks like a mix between Sleeping Beauty's Maleficent and Snow White's evil Queen.
She looks like she could make her way across the river without a boat in a good wind!
Barb wrote:"She looks like she could make her way across the river without a boat in a good wind!"
*LOL* I quite agree.
God I love cover snark.
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It is an amusing past time, no?
Credit for this goes to my friend Smeddley over at Live Journal. Go to Google, search for 'Do I have swine flu' and click on I'm feeling lucky.
Here's a fine one for you. Now you know where Katherine Parr hid her books when she heard Henry VIII coming!
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