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S.D. Valyan has s..."
Oh wait! I think I have that one and you're right. Is it Promises to Keep or something like that?
Danielle,Thanks so much for your wonderful comment. I try to write books I hope everyone will enjoy reading. I think my heroes are just enough Alpha males to make them hot!
Arch wrote: "Thanks Marie. I will see if my library has interloan ebooks. "Arch, I hope you have luck getting the book.
Marie
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Gatadelafuente (Danielle) wrote: "I think writing books that you want to read, is the way to go, Marie. "I totally agree with you. I how I have fallen in love with each and everyone of my characters.
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Arch wrote: "Marie, I have will have to request your books from another library. My library doesn't even carry your books. I've checked last night."Arch: I hope that you're able to find some of my books through the library. Maybe you can speak to someone there have see if they can start finding a way to get them.
Marie
Rae wrote: "Justine wrote: "new_user wrote: "Well, one book with a sexy nerd was Sexy/Dangerous by Beverly Jenkins, and the heroine was his bodyguard, so you might like that one, Arch. :) It's AA though."S.D..."
It could be. I'm not sure I would have to read some of it over and I have two of her books. I'll get back to it one of these days
OK mods - I just realize we need to have another shelf There are heroes who are arabic or of the indian subcontinent ethnic group. so can we have this one. I don't quite know what to designator should be though
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Eugenia wrote: "I mean is it just me or is this getting way too complicated. LOL."It isn't only you Eugenia!!!!!!!!! It has taken on a life of its own, it seems :-)
Gatadelafuente (Danielle) wrote: "Well I don't think we can group East Indians and Arabics together. I'd probably group East Indians with Asian and have a shelf for Middle Eastern."I'm not sure I would group an Indian from the subcontinent as Asian. And what happens if that Indian is from America or the Caribbean area?
Ok then how about we call them other. So if the person is not bi-racial, white, Native America or Asian, he gets the other designator?
Well, I've been categorizing Indian/Pakistani as South Asian, since that is the usual designation. Danielle is right. Middle-Easterners are not in the same group. Technically, they're white, but since there is an ethnic difference, I was thinking of making an ethnic shelf, I'm not sure. @.@(See, you can tell race is an unnatural invention forced on people. Look at our awkward attempts to categorize, LOL. You should see the Census information on this, it's ridiculous.)
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Gatadelafuente (Danielle) wrote: "Yeah race is just a silly concept. But a pervasive one, unfortunately."sigh yeah true that
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If someone is Indian, no matter what kind, I think they should be listed under a shelf titled Indian.
I think that would help a person out, is if someone is going to note that they have read a book, review the book, give it a rating too. Only if you want to. I have noticed that a lot of books are under read, but there is no rating or reviews.
If a person has read an interracial book that has an Indian in it, then please share what kind of Indian the person was in your review or if you choose not to do a review, do a comment and inform people what kind of Indian is in the book.
I have a shelf for interracial books on my shelf. I will inform people as to what kind of interracial pairing is in a book either in my review or a comment.
Generally, people aren't referring to Indians when they say "Asians," but on official documents, that's the term.I'm not sure what you mean about all Indians being under one shelf? There are Native Americans and people from the Indies, etc. that are all referred to by this inadequate term, LOL. They don't have much in common.
I'll be sure to post the type of pairing in my reviews. The books on the shelf are all "read" because if we put them on another shelf I think it's listed as a "group read."
Arch wrote: "You learn something new everyday. I love learning new things. I didn't know that Indians from India were Asians. I would have never thought they were Asians. I call them Indians. If someone is ..."
OK ARCH- I've just gone back over the books on the shelf. The ones I could give the racial designator to that didn't have, I've done. Most books had them already. The ones I've left are books that I've not read and were placed there by other members.
I think we are doing quite well with this BTW. Kudos to all :-)
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If a black woman is a Jamacian and she's with a white man. Wouldn't that book be listed under BWWM? Or do we need a shelf JWWM?
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Native Americans don't like to be called Indians? If they aren't Indians, then what are they?
Thanks Justine.
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If a blac..."
Indian comes from stupid Christopher Columbus landing in the Caribbean islands and thinking he was in the East. He called the native peoples on the islands Indians. Native Americans are not Indians in any way. They are probably closer to Asians if you go way back to when the first Native American peoples crossed the Bering Strait from Asian to what we call Alaska. The only correct grouping for them is Native Americans because they all have different tribal names.
The term Indian should only be applied to people who originate from the subcontinent Indian landmass.
That's why New User is saying we shouldn't group Native Americans as Indians.
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To my understanding, some Native Americans classify themselves as Indians.
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How should I see Native Americans? I see them as Indians.
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I'm trying to understand what you are saying, in regards to the word Indian. Are you saying that the word Indian is an outdated word for every Indian or just for the Native Americans that don't classify themselves as Indian?
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I'm trying to understand what you are saying, in regards to the word Indian. Are you saying that the word Indian is an outdated word for every Indian or just for the Native Americans t..."
It is an inapplicable and outdated term for Native Americans. People who originate from the subcontinent of India are Indians.
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I know it was said that Columbus called Native Americans Indians.
Okay, so what is a Native American?
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People who originate from the subcontinent of India are Indians.
I have always called these people Indians, but a few weeks ago, I was told they are truly Asians, because India is in Asia.
To me, they would still be called Indians, just like a Chinese would be called a Chinese. China is in Asia too and Chinese fall in the group: Asian.
I am part Indian. I don't know what kind of Indian I am part of as of yet, but I do know that I am not part Indian from India.
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I try to look up things because I do believe in doing my research, so bear with me. Here is an article I found on wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigeno...
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Beside the Indians from India, do Indians exist and if so, what are they called?
Eugenia wrote: "Gatadelafuente (Danielle) wrote: "From what you are describing, you are part Native-American (which have been called Indians which is incorrect). Native Americans are the first peoples of the Nort..."well i'm part jewish i know that for a fact. my gran mama too loves her stuffed vine leaves and
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Arch wrote: "I have never met a black person that call themselves colored. How should I see Native Americans? I see them as Indians."
Eh Arch, in South Africa and in England - colored was the name used for black people.
Then in South Africa a colored person came to be known as someone black who was mixed.
Black people in the USA were also called colored, then we became negroes, then blacks, then AA. hmmmm wasn't darkies thrown in there somewhere as well???
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Now as for Indians. Some Native Americans probably don't classify themselves as Indians. From what I have read, it seems as if Native Americans didn't want to be confused with the Indians from India and that's why they call themselves American Indians or Native American. So that means that Native Americans are Indians.
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How should I see Native Americans? I see them as Indians."
Eh Arch, in South Africa and in England - colored was t..."
Justine,
I have never met anyone that calls themselves colored. Everyone that I have met, either calls themselves black or African American.
I am black American. I am not African American. I am not an African.
I know that a lot of people call themselves African American, because of slavery and they believe their ancestors came from Africa.
Everyone black person's ancestors didn't come from Africa.
Plus, if say my ancestors came from Africa, then where did my ancestors, ancestors come from? Surely, if I have ancestors, then my ancestors would have to have ancestors.
New_User. I've just finished a book about vampires that you must read. I've just placed it on the group shelf. It's called The Alpha Promise by Hayat AliStory is told from the perspective of both vamps and human. A different spin on vamps as well. It's one of the best ones I've read thus far. It's also sexy. With quite a bit of action
It has me drained.
Arch wrote: "Justine wrote: "Arch wrote: "I have never met a black person that call themselves colored. How should I see Native Americans? I see them as Indians."
Eh Arch, in South Africa and in England..."
Rght Arch. but it doesn't mean they don't exist though, just because you've never met one. I've met them in England.
Also if you google the images of the civil rights movement you will see there were signs that said "no coloreds allowed" water fountains etc were not to be used by coloreds. That was the term used for black people in this country in the 30s 40s and 50. As I said it's not used anymore.
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I've never been to England, so I can't say what they call themselves.
I wonder what Idris Elba refers to himself. He's from England. I know that he's British, but I wonder if he would say he's colored or black.
Arch wrote: "Justine, I know that the word colored was used to describe black people. I am talking about in my time. I have never met someone that calls themselves colored. They either go by black American or A..."He would say he's black. Black people have never called themselves colored. It was a designator given to us by others.
Do you know it's really only in America that we have all of these subdivisions. It's enough to hurt one's head.
Arch, I think what I said before is what confused you. South Asia includes India, Pakistan, Nepal, etc. So Indians are South Asians and so are people from the other countries in that region. People from the Indies are also referred to as Indian.
Native Americans are no longer referred to as Indian.
I would not discount history altogether. Most slaves in the US were from West Africa, and that's certainly nothing to be ashamed of, Eugenia. At the time, the countries of that region were quite powerful in Africa, perhaps most notably Mali, which was very wealthy and influential. I have a text about one of the princes who was captured and enslaved.
I agree that it's generally a good rule of thumb to call people as they want to be called. It's respectful. If they prefer to be identified a certain way, it's not just vanity; it's to do with culture and history. Eugenia was right when she said that US education generally neglects to differentiate disparate peoples and clumps them together based on arbitrary similarities noticed, like race.
Okay, I was just responding to your comment your ancestry.Justine, that Hayat Ali book looks very cool. I would definitely like to read it. It might be difficult to get my hands on though.
Something we know nothing about and don't really understand? Any rate, yes, I think we've already established there will be no more shelves, but I wanted to make sure no one was grouping Indians with Native Americans, LOL.
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It is said that Native Americans came from Asia. Some people don't believe this.
Anyway, one thing is for sure, they are indigenous people. So, if a shelf needs to be created for Native Americans, then it should be called Indigenous People. I know that you all know that Native Americans aren't the only people that falls under Indigenous People.
new_user wrote: "Okay, I was just responding to your comment your ancestry.Justine, that Hayat Ali book looks very cool. I would definitely like to read it. It might be difficult to get my hands on though. "
Not that difficult - i got mine thru the great amazon.com. i need to buy me some shares in that company for all da money i give em
OK no more shelves. we are agreed - for now - LOL
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OK New_user I'm about to start that Vamp book by Ms. viehl. Prepare to be bitten or not!!
LOL! I really hope you like it! (My health is riding on it, LOL.)And $15 is a little expensive. *whine* Oh, it's selling for $7.50 on Lulu!
I love the heat in your books, Marie. But they are also so romantic. Thanks for writing them!