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Tamara wrote: "I'm still shocked they even did Jumping Jack Flash back then because even in 2014 a movie like that, with that premise, and that casting, would not make it to the big screens. "This was a huge deal at the time, I remember. An AA woman getting a multi-picture deal with a major motion picture studio. The first of it's kind since the old days of the studio system where the individual studios pretty much controlled their own stable of stars and Lena Horne was the first AA movie star to sign exclusively with MGM.
Tina wrote: "Paganalexandria **wicked juices bubbling over** wrote: "Tina, maybe because most my television revolves around reality shows, it sometimes makes for easier viewing if there are no people of color o..."Tina I love Drag Race too. Bianca Del Rio is my spirit animal. lol
Tamara wrote: "THANKYOU, Tina!! That's exactly me right now. Now that I have choices, I refuse to go back to white only cast. If there's a WOC on it, I'm already sold by 40% towards liking it. I don't care if its..."I do the same thing. Also, I openly criticize lack of POC in the cast. When I was younger, I didn't have the guts to do that, because I was more worried about how people would perceive me.
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Tina, we can't forget Diahanne Carroll! sometimes I think we went backwards on WOC in the media than forwards. atleast until about 4 years ago, now we're in fashion!
Michelle wrote: "When does Flash start?!"Supposedly tomorrow, 10/7.
I hope they do right by Iris. It is the CW after all and their track record on WOC on their shows is abysmal (yes, I am looking at you Vampire Diaries, The Originals, Emily Owens, Supernatural... )
Michelle wrote: "When does Flash start?!"Tue Oct. 07 7:00 PM on CW. Tuesday is such a great and busy tv night I hope it does well. They are going up against NCIS.
Someone needs to start a Flash Thread like the Sleepy Hollow one for us to chat about it! (if its any good that is, because you know CW...)
I know this is late as hell, but if anyone wants to chat about Carter/Reese on Person of INterest. I have alot of feelings (and Rants) to share. It was such a slept on fandom AND show, but its really good and since I'm trying to avoid spoilers for now, how they dealt with the fall out from the midseason cliff hanger, just sealed it for me.
I love Person of Interest. I wish they'd bring Carter back for a few flashbacks so that we can see deeper into the relationship she and Reese shared. There must have been times he showed up at her apartment to discuss things or when she looked out the window and he was outside. We knew already he loved her.
Tamara wrote: "Someone needs to start a Flash Thread like the Sleepy Hollow one for us to chat about it! (if its any good that is, because you know CW...)"Well based on the comics, The Flash and Iris will end up together.
Kim wrote: "I love Person of Interest. I wish they'd bring Carter back for a few flashbacks so that we can see deeper into the relationship she and Reese shared. There must have been times he showed up at her ..."I'm with you, Kim!!! I liked how they handled her death though, well the after effects on him about her death. He's been quiet and more reserved and just plain sad since she'd been dead. he only came back to work with them because Finch and the machine pretty much begged him to come back but he's been in total mourning and that's what I wanted to see. He doesn't smile anymore, or look excited, he just plods along.
Tamara wrote: "Kim wrote: "I love Person of Interest. I wish they'd bring Carter back for a few flashbacks so that we can see deeper into the relationship she and Reese shared. There must have been times he showe..."And you know...he promised her he'd make sure her son was safe, but we haven't seen any scenes with him actually doing that. Or maybe he is afraid of putting her son in danger because of his current situation...
Exactly. they're pretty much hunted and living in hiding. The best way to keep her son safe is to keep far away from him. but maybe they'll have an episode that shows what he does on his downtime is check up on Carter's son from a safe distance especially now that he's a police detective!Has anyone been watching Chicago Fire on NBC?? because the hot australian dude from House is engaged to a black chick (who is the lead female) on that show, and its a pretty diverse main cast?? atleast as of season 3?? I might have to put it on my watch list.
http://www.tvfanatic.com/2014/11/chic...
Kim wrote: "I love Person of Interest. I wish they'd bring Carter back for a few flashbacks so that we can see deeper into the relationship she and Reese shared. There must have been times he showed up at her ..."That could never happen because in reality they had no romantic plans for Carter. She was always to be a temporary character. The actress said the actor Jim, is the one that kept it a surprise to everyone including her to kiss her and add the romantic element to make the loss of her character have more impact because viewers will be left feeling regretful for all the possibilities that was taken away from them. I think they could at least show his character checking in on her son from time to time to give his character that continued human element, but his character is suppose to have a before Carter personality and an after Carter personality.
Shiree, there is definitely an After Carter grimness to him. and I for one truly appreciate it. I don't know how they could say there were no romantic plans for Carter and Reese. Did the showrunners even WATCH the first season??? because it was always there. and Jim was so on the ball for surprising us all with that kiss. Her death would have been very hollow without it, or them just having that heart to heart since she was mostly involved with that group because of John Reese.
I remember watching the first episode going "Shipping it so hard already" then I kept on watching and yeah my entire family were Carter/Reese supporters.
Tamara wrote: "Shiree, there is definitely an After Carter grimness to him. and I for one truly appreciate it. I don't know how they could say there were no romantic plans for Carter and Reese. Did the showrun..."
Tamara it's funny because I wanted so badly in my head the romantic connection to happen between Carter and Reese, I saw romantic elements in all their scenes just like I do in Sleep Hallow which I think they are trying to discourage it by making more romantic scenes with Katrina this season because they too are saying their is no romantic elements intended for Crane and Abby. But my best friend watches the both show to and she's White, she don't see the romantic elements.
She said it surprised her when they had the romantic kiss between Carter and Reese, because they hadn't even hinted at a romance, so she knew right then when he kissed her they was going to kill her off. lol
That made me wonder if I was so hungry for more romantic IR entanglements I will create one from the dynamic of the possibility just because one main character is a Black woman and the other a White man. Would I assume they were a hookup if they both had been white, or if he was black and she was white?
I think now that the networks notice that most number one shows now are shows that have a Black woman coupling with another race of man has a viewership there will be more of it even if they have to tease us enough to draw us in and never give us the big pay off.
Shonda has proven it's a popular concept and Black women make up a huge powerful viewership for networks. I think this is why Sleep Hallow ratings dropped this season. They take away are romantic hookup every time they emphasize the love between Katrina and Crane and that is not the relationship the viewers have invested themselves in.
Shiree, I think you could be on to something there. especially about sleepy hollow losing ratings by trying to remove the Crane/Mills possiblity. HOWEVER, the majority of people watching the show are Ichabbie shippers white black and everything in between. they're now trying to brace themselves in case it doesn't happen by trying to not hate Katrina which is very hard for them for some reason.
My mother in law who is very white english lady who only knows black people who are related to me, screams at the tv everytime they're on screen going "just kiss already!" because Nicole and Tom's chemistry is the stuff of legend.
I'll admit that I am a chronic Bw/wm shipper but I've been right like 99% of the time, even Jim Cavieziel proved me correct with the Carter kiss because even his Reese mindset realized that there was a connection between the two of them.
Go and rewatch the show all over again and try to not to be biased and you'll still be like "omg now he's just showing off because Carter's there or why is he making that much effort for her alone and why are they making flirty eyes at each other?? I know I tried but I couldn't ignore it. Reese was very into Carter. Just like Crane is into Abby, Sam is into Mercedes and Fitz is into Olivia... well maybe not THAT much because damn!
Shiree wrote: "Kim wrote: "I love Person of Interest. I wish they'd bring Carter back for a few flashbacks so that we can see deeper into the relationship she and Reese shared. There must have been times he showe..."When Taraji Hansson first left Person of Interest, the producers initially said she would be coming back for a few flashbacks, which is why a lot of people began to hope for more insight into their relationship. I never expected to see them flirt. What I was interested in seeing was when Reese realised he was in love with her. I don't need to see them flirting with one another. But a moment of recognition on his side and actually seeing it as a viewer would have been interesting.
p.s I'm actually certifiable so don't mind me LOL
I agree, Kim that would have been really interesting since I honestly felt like Reese was more invested in creating the connection between Carter and their merry band of crime fighters, than Finch even realized. It would have been nice to have seen some extra insight into the dynamics of their friendship.
Tamara wrote: "I agree, Kim that would have been really interesting since I honestly felt like Reese was more invested in creating the connection between Carter and their merry band of crime fighters, than Finch ..."I had these same sentiments with Prison Break when in the 'Killing your number' episode Mahone ended op with Felicia Lang as his love interest. I did not see that one coming and felt cheated that there was no build up to that relationship. (Then again: all the relationships in PB were so unbelievable clinical and so chemistry-less. I never even saw Michael and Sarah kissing). But Alex and Felicia was a relationship I would have loved to see blossoming.
Tamara wrote: "Shiree, there is definitely an After Carter grimness to him. and I for one truly appreciate it. I don't know how they could say there were no romantic plans for Carter and Reese. Did the showrun..."
You have to remember that until Scandal, black characters were not created to have a love interest on TV by and large unless it was with another black character and unless it was in a comedy by and large. It has always looked to me that they were developing romantic feelings for each other. I betcha if Carter was not black the writers would have them falling in love even if she was still later killed off.
I enjoyed the Carter character. Tara killed it every episode.
Wasn't sure where to put this exactly but thought it interesting, cute, and wanted to share with the group.Tracee Ellis Ross on Having Diana Ross For a Mom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhb5...
Justine wrote: "Tamara wrote: "Shiree, there is definitely an After Carter grimness to him. and I for one truly appreciate it. I don't know how they could say there were no romantic plans for Carter and Reese. ..."
Exactly Justine! that's why they kept trying to push the Zoe angle who actually had less chemistry with Reese than Carter ever did. (I mean even via phone calls he was trying to flirt with her!!) so I honestly think that was the only thing stopping Carter/Reese and after Scandal all of a sudden Bwwm pairings were acceptable on tv and a ratings draw!!
Gisele, thats so true! I always wondered about them on Prison Break!
I've been watching a lot of International tv shows lately because I'm fed up with American Tv shows, and I've found two shows I love!Love/Hate - Irish, and has an IR relationship with Rosie and Darren, played by Robert Sheehan and Ruth Negga
Some Girls - British, and has the adorable relationship between Rocky and Viva. This show is off, but season 1-3 were good.
Misfits - the UK version is much better than the U.S version.
I hope nobody mentioned these yet, or else this would be useless.
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You're welcome! Yes, their shows are great because they have much more freedom. You can watch Some Girls on Hulu for free and the first three seasons of Love/Hate on Hulu too. Some Girls is great because it's not just Rocky and Viva that's awesome but the other characters too.
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Here are the links in case anyone else needs them:
Some Girls
http://www.hulu.com/some-girls-tv
Love/Hate (also has a link to Misfits down below)
http://www.hulu.com/lovehate
I so agree though. That's also why I love int'l shows. They don't have very many hangups with showing IR couples and the writing is engaging. I'm looking forward to checking these out.
★ Codie wrote: "I've been watching a lot of International tv shows lately because I'm fed up with American Tv shows, and I've found two shows I love!Love/Hate - Irish, and has an IR relationship with Rosie and D..."
Rosie plays Raina on Agent of Shield.
Justine wrote: "★ Codie wrote: "I've been watching a lot of International tv shows lately because I'm fed up with American Tv shows, and I've found two shows I love!Love/Hate - Irish, and has an IR relationship ..."
Oh that's cool I've never seen that show, but Ruth Negga is awesome (ever since I saw her in Misfits) so I'd love to see that!
CaliGirlRae wrote: "Excellent! I completely forgot to check Hulu for those. Thanks for the heads up. :-)
Here are the links in case anyone else needs them:
Some Girls
http://www.hulu.com/some-girls-tv
Love/Hate (a..."
No problem! Hulu has a lot of international shows (that isn't on hulu plus) which is awesome! I'm glad that I'm not the only one enjoying international shows. If you find any other cool ones I'd love to see them.
Wait... there is a US version of Misfits? Ewww. Why? There is no way they could reproduce the fantastic chemistry of that original 5. I can't even watch the Brit version after Season 3 because I loved the original cast so much.I binge watched Some Girls a few months ago. The eps are all on Youtube too. So fun!
I totally agree Tina! After Robert Sheehan left the show kinda went wrong to me. The US version is horrid like most shows converted (Skins, Being Human, The Inbetweeners, etc.). Oh great! I though YouTube only had season 3, I'm about to add that now! Thanks
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Love/Hate - Irish, and has an ..."
Codie, if you can get your hands on a 2003 tv show called Burn It, that was pretty good and one of the main guys were one-half of an IR couple that unites during the show (the ending is kinda sad though).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burn_It
Looks like someone posted a few eps on YT. Some were blocked for me but hopefully they work for you. The first vid on that playlist is one I made for a buddy years ago featuring the couple, Jon and Tina.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWx3K...
Rutina Wesley has been cast as Reba McClane in NBC's Hannibal series. She is the love interest of Richard Armitage's Francis Dolarhyde.This is a nice case of color-blind casting as in the books and in the two other movies that featured Reba, she was white.
She is set to show up as a recurring character this summer as the show kicks off its third season.
He's 6ft2 and played a dwarf in the Hobbit. I guess dwarf doesn't mean dwarf huh?He looks like that guy from the show the Blacklist
CaliGirlRae wrote: "★ Codie wrote: "Justine wrote: "★ Codie wrote: "I've been watching a lot of International tv shows lately because I'm fed up with American Tv shows, and I've found two shows I love!Love/Hate - Ir..."
Thank you! I saw the video and it looks good. I hope it's not going to end like a Liberty and JT situation like on Degrassi.
Another show to check out is The Mindy Project. Mindy dates (mostly) white guys and it's actually funny. There's also the office romance between Morgan and Tamra (who I hate as a character).
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Yw! Sadly, it kinda does. :-( (I'm still salty about how Liberty and JT ended).
In the related vids, I saw there was an IR couple on Rookie Blue. Great chemistry and I was sucked into the story just by the clips. Another one that ended in tragedy. Sigh. I wish tv writers wouldn't resort to ending interesting couples like that.
Tina wrote: "Rutina Wesley has been cast as Reba McClane in NBC's Hannibal series. She is the love interest of Richard Armitage's Francis Dolarhyde."Welp, looks like I'm gonna have to start watching Hannibal!
CaliGirlRae wrote: "★ Codie wrote: "Thank you! I saw the video and it looks good. I hope it's not going to end like a Liberty and JT situation like on Degrassi."Yw! Sadly, it kinda does. :-( (I'm still salty about h..."
Oh no, I hate those endings (JT & Liberty, Jal & Chris, when will it end!)
Yeah I heard about the couple on Rookie Blue and I was so excited about another black female cop (fighting "real crime" although I do like Sleepy Hollow) ever since The Wire I haven't seen many. Thanks for the heads up on Rookie Blue.
IKR! I told my sister that my tv shows kept killing my favorite characters or they left. I want good shows that don't end or kill good couples but Shameless proved that can't work.
Tracy on Rookie Blue gets another love interest. Steve, Gail's brother.Sadly though it feels like she gets less and less screen time as the series goes on. I pretty much gave up on the show because it became all about Andi's love life. And even some of the other characters felt sacrificed to her.
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Such a bummer because I almost started watching.
Chicago Fire is chock full of IR relationshipsThere is the Fire Chief who is black married to a white woman and just had a kid
There is Dawson (Afro-Latina) who is the main female lead, she had been in love with Casey (white male) for all of the series. They finally got together last season but they broke up this season and are still kinda orbiting each other
There is Mills (biracial) who has all sorts of relationships. Single for the moment
Cruz (Latino male) this season he was with the white female paramedic but they just broke up because she likes to go out to dinner and he likes to stay home and watch tv.
And just last week & this week YaYa DaCosta has been recurring as a possible love interest to Severide (the very hot Taylor Kinney who is sorta the bad-boy head of Squad). They went to high school together and he is reconnecting with her. Apparently she'll be a lead in a new spin off, Chicago Med.
Plus I just like the firefighter camaraderie they all have.
Okay, this isn't in English it's a Portuguese show, however Duas Caras has this beautiful couple on there. He's just sooooo..... Another show would be Hit The Floor, with Zero dating everybody and he's absolutely gorgeous.
Both can be watched on Youtube
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Codie, I'll definitely check those out on Youtube as well.
Lots of goodies to hunt down. :-)
One to keep an eye open for. The CW has just cast Jaime Lee Kirchner (she kinda looks like Condola Rashad a little) as the female lead opposite Andrew J West in a new fall show called 'Dead People' created by JJ Abrams. From the description sounds like Ghost Whisperer with a dash of Sleepy Hollow.
Here's the link:
http://deadline.com/2015/03/jaime-lee...
Oo, I'll have to give that a try, though my husband says the CW site is a pain to watch on the internet. We'll see, I guess.
"Empire" Trai Byers, Kaitlin Doubleday (BM/WW)."Elementary" Lucy Liu, Raza Jaffrey (ChineseW/IndianM).
"Sleepy Hollow" Tom Mison, Nicole Behaire (WM/BW).
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Oh, see, now, reality shows are a whole different kettle of fish for me. I tend to shy away from reality shows, esp. non competition reality shows and esp if there are POC on them.
I remember watching the very first Real World even back then they were trying to make Kevin Powell into some angry black man. Kevin Powell! He was this super cerebral righteous brother who, yes, was angry but he had a right to be. We were just coming out the Reagan years, black folks had a right to be angry about all sorts of stuff coming out the of Reagan years. Still he was more along the lines of a Toure angry rather than a Mike Tyson angry. Of course I had no idea what was in store when in came to reality shows in the future, but even then....smh.
My only real reality show that I love is RuPaul's Drag Race because those queens have a self awareness that makes me feel like it is less exploitative than most reality.