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Nov 03, 2022 07:16PM
The Noel Diary on Netflix will have interracial romance.
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Like her from Station 19. Was really ticked off when they killed off her fire captain fiancé.
Justine wrote: "Like her from Station 19. Was really ticked off when they killed off her fire captain fiancé."Ah, so that's why I thought the actress was familiar. She is in Station 19.
Also, Italian movie called Robbing Mussolini has interracial romance as well. Which reminds me, Summertime is considered to be interracial romance genre as well.
So is School of Good and Evil.
Under the Amalfi Sun also has interracial romance. Riches from Amazon Prime have dark-skinned BW as main character with interracial romance.
Just FYI that Kindred (by Octavia E Butler) on Hulu will air in Dec. The trailer looks great and terrifying. I can't wait to watch it.
Holiday Harmony on HBO MAX has interracial romance.
Mosaic wrote: "Just FYI that Kindred (by Octavia E Butler) on Hulu will air in Dec. The trailer looks great and terrifying. I can't wait to watch it."I am a fan of the author. Thanks for this notification. I look forward to watching the show.
I just finished Netflix Love in the Villa and it was pretty adorable. I'm a HUGE Tom Hopper fan and I always hated how they did poor Kat Graham/Bonnie in The Vampire Diaries so it was nice seeing both of them kind of shine outside of the supporting characters they normally play. I will say they kind of tanked on the actual physical interaction for me. Definitely wanted a bit more. But maybe that's just because that man weeks all my physical boxes (lawdamercy).
I'm stuck home with Covid so finally going thru some of the suggestions here.
Mosaic wrote: ".I remember Andrew Lincoln wanting to leave because he couldn't stand filming that show forever. Now he decides to come back to AMC for the moneybag. LOL"See, I never got that from anything I saw or read from him. Just that yeah, he wanted to leave at a time he could feel good about the work and enjoy some normalcy with his kids. He's one of the few that seems to have done that and still remained very positive about the show and always open to talk of a return. Georgia in the summer ain't no joke, so I can't fault him-I'd be tired of it too. And everyone knew the writing had lost its magic, so sad as I was, I never took him as ditching and never looking back.
PBS has upcoming show called Tom Jones based on The History of Tom Jones, and it has interracial romance. I could be wrong, but it looks like The Witcher: Blood Origin has interracial romance as well.
One thing that I'm glad about seeing: Riches from Amazon Prime actually have interracial romance between 2 POCs. The main character, Nina, has romantic relationship with Rishi. As I've mentioned before, Nina is played by Deborah Ayorinde.
Riches is a fun, sorta soapy, tv show. I recommend people to watch it.
Savannah- Quad Motherin' Book Readin' Diva wrote: "I just finished Netflix Love in the Villa and it was pretty adorable. I'm a HUGE Tom Hopper fan and I always hated how they did poor Kat Graham/Bonnie in The Vampire Diaries so it was nice seeing b..."Isn't this guy part of the Umbrella Academy on Netflix?
Justine wrote: "Savannah- Quad Motherin' Book Readin' Diva wrote: "I just finished Netflix Love in the Villa and it was pretty adorable. I'm a HUGE Tom Hopper fan and I always hated how they did poor Kat Graham/Bo..."Yes.
The Witcher: Blood Origin has interracial romance. I think this is just limited series.
I'm looking forward to watching Love in the Villa
Magali wrote: "Vampire Academy is absolutely killing it with Rose and Dimitri, and Sonya and Mikhail (won't spoil). Lissa and Christian are also an interracial couple on the show."Lawd lawd, Dimitri! WHY did they cancel yet another successful show? I'm so over getting into something and then its gone. But yea, that man has a future in these United States. Mark my words. His look, that accent-he's got it.
Vampire Academy isn’t cancelled. A renewal hasn’t been released yet but it hasn’t been officially cancelled either. Peacock should be making announcements in January.
I wish Shonda Rhimes focus on Lady Danbury spin off. The actress for Lady Danbury is so pretty.
Apparently, Vampire Academy is cancelled by Peacock.I knew it won't last because the producer, Julie Plec, is a terrible writer. The first episode was written terribly and the dialogues are so corny.
I'm praying for the success of Legendborn tv show. I really love the book.
PBS has upcoming tv show called Tom Jones, which is featuring interracial romance. It looks so good and romantic.The show will air on PBS around end April.
https://youtu.be/tBb4wdY7SLc
Mosaic wrote: "PBS has upcoming tv show called Tom Jones, which is featuring interracial romance. It looks so good and romantic.The show will air on PBS around end April.
https://youtu.be/tBb4wdY7SLc"
Yes, ma'am, I'm all in for that one! Thanks!
I'm watching Something New starring Sanaa Lathan. Sanaa Lathan is such a good and beautiful actress.The movie Something New is really good. It has its own social commentary of race in the society and white significant other's insensitivity toward POC struggle in white dominant society.
I wish interracial romance authors really pay attention to the social commentary as well. Like, it's okay to write fantastical and escapism type of romance involving interracial, but race also plays very important part in the world. By ignoring racial aspect, you are ignoring the characters' roots.
I mean, just look at Harry and Meghan irl. Race plays a huge factor in Meghan's marriage with Harry out in the public eyes just because her mother is black. Meghan gets racial threats from white supremacists online and offline.
Sometimes people just want to escape from the everyday realities. I welcome both aspects. What would adding more race issues have contributed to this movie? And there was a degree of race issue anyhow:the white business owner who wanted someone white on his account
Her wearing of hair extensions to look corporate
Her brother mentioning the guy she was seeing was white to their parents expecting it to get the heat off of him.
I'm a definite fan of 'Something New.' When I read to escape, I'm reading for pure pleasure and I don't want real life to interfere with the storyline. There are books that go there, but unless I'm in the mood for real, I don't read them very often. Happy Reading❣️
Justine wrote: "What would adding more race issues have contributed to this movie?"Rosie wrote: "When I read to escape, I'm reading for pure pleasure and I don't want real life to interfere with the storyline."
You can write escapism without ignoring racial aspect of the character. For example, you don't ignore the character's heritage or roots. If your character is Nigerian and marrying to white man whose family may have antagonizing element toward Nigerian culture, it's better to include that aspect into the plot rather than shove it under the carpet and pretends it's not there.
Use that as conflict. If your interracial romance doesn't have any aspect of conflict (whether it is racial or not) in the romance, it's not a romance. Romance can have conflict that makes love stronger, not weaker.
I mean, I don't mind reading some interracial romance books for fluff, but when I read books like Broken by Tia Sirrah that talks about black woman with white love interest being Republican senator from Texas. I LMAO so hard at it because imagining love interest Cancun Cruz, who has terrible reputation in Texas b/c he f**** left Texans to rot during winter storm, is no longer an escapism, but hella of delusion.
My point is there is a line to be drawn on escapism. Or perhaps I have encountered too many BS irl that I don't think borderline delusion in interracial romance books is good writing. *shrug*
Mosaic wrote: "Justine wrote: "What would adding more race issues have contributed to this movie?"Rosie wrote: "When I read to escape, I'm reading for pure pleasure and I don't want real life to interfere with ..."
And if his white family does not have any antagonizing issues towards the Nigerian family? What then? Should this story not be told? It seems to me that you are assuming it's always binary, i.e. all or nothing, when it isn't.
As a black woman, there are times, I do not want to read about nor see in a movie the harsh realities of bigotry and ignorance of race. There are times I just want to see or read about two people who love each other and the telling of feel good story that is not peppered with the racial aspect of life. There has to be room for these stories as well.
Justine wrote: "And if his white family does not have any antagonizing issues towards the Nigerian family? What then? Should this story not be told?"First of all, did I said the story shouldn't be told because there is no conflict? You assume, not me. And congrats to people who have never been in this type of cultural clash, good for them.
I said it is not good writing because you can't incorporate conflict (racial or not) and character's roots in the book. If you ignore the racial part of character, then you are writing a white character. It's absolutely ignorant to see the world as fantasy when the world doesn't see you.
It's not binary, it's called good writing.
I don't know about you, Justine, but I personally want the books to be well written. Every book should have a structure: beginning, conflict, climax, conclusion. With good characterization that stay true to the roots, and don't whitewash the characters.
Honestly most IR books I have read do include some issues about IR dating romance. It is a sliding scale though. Some simply acknowledge the racial/cultural difference. Some use it as a way to get the couple to learn more about each other. And others use it as the source of the conflict.
It is usually the outlier that doesn't touch on the racial difference at all.
I think race/cultural difference of the couple can still be part of the book without it being THE conflict. If it is a BWWM, the most common thing is that he can be ignorant about some things about black culture. There can also be a class differential in addition to the race differential that gets all wrapped in the story.
In the early days of IR romance almost every book had the IR aspect as the conflict. I understood why. But over time, For me it just got exhausting to read. It was a disservice, imo, because it limited the scope of the story. There are hundreds of thousands of real life IR relationships where the racial difference is just an aspect of the relationship bit it isn't the central or even most difficult part of the relationship. So it is nice to get past that as the conflict.
I do agree the difference can't and shouldn't be ignored. But I like some complexity about it. One recent one that I think used race well was Redemption by Susan Fanetti where the main couple's conflict romantic conflict isn't about race but about the hero's turbulent past and refusal to step up. But they have a son that the hero now wants to acknowledge him. The hero 'doesn't see race' and 'doesn't even think of her as black'. The heroine rolls her eyes at this and gives him a come to Jesus talk about what it will mean to be a white father or a black son. And the later hero now is able to recognize everyday microagressions that he never would have before.
Mosaic wrote: "Justine wrote: "And if his white family does not have any antagonizing issues towards the Nigerian family? What then? Should this story not be told?"First of all, did I said the story shouldn't b..."
You really should not use absolutisms when it's merely your opinion.
You have just stated that it is not good writing if it there is no racial conflict in the story of a H&H who are an interracial couple. Is this not binary? But anyhow I beg to differ. Some stories may have racial conflict as an integral part of the plot while some may not. Those that do not, can be just as good, as well written, a great telling of the tale as others on the other end of the spectrum. One of the first IR stories I ever read was Pleasure Seekers by Rochelle Alers. In it, there was n IR couple which did not have the racial conflict that you are purporting must exist. Yet it was a great telling of a tale to me.
When I read some stories for escapism, I read not to be reminded of daily lived experiences. To have a "fiction" where race is an issue is not fiction for most black people, It's more history more biography. Plus, racial conflict in an IR story is an obvious trope that does not speak to complexity in the telling of the tale of the relationship.
Tina wrote: "Honestly most IR books I have read do include some issues about IR dating romance. It is a sliding scale though. Some simply acknowledge the racial/cultural difference. Some use it as a way to ge..."
Right Tina, I agree. Those early books became exhausting after a while for me as well. I do understand why they were written, but after a while I had to stop reading them because of the exhaustion.
Just to bring this back to Something New... I agree it is an excellent movie that touches on a lot of complex issues about IR dating. Interestingly, the biggest barrier isn't them being an IR couple per se but Kenya's expectations for herself and out-dating not being a part of it were the big conflicts.There are a couple of things I really loved about this movie.
First - it made the point that I always make whenever the statistics about BW out-dating out-marrying are brought up. BW are the least likely demographic to out date/our-marry (along with Asian men) . Most people anecdotally seem to believe this is because BW are perceived as less desirable. And this might be the case up to a point. But a big element is that BW by and large don't really want to out date/out-marry. Like Kenya, a lot of BW wanted their checklist ready BM. Assuming that the statistics showing BW not out-dating/out-marrying as much is all due to factors that don't involve their own choice is bullshit. I have always maintained that the stats of BW out-marrying would go up if more BW decided THEY wanted to.
Second - I love that they included a class element. Kenya is well educated, her family is rich black and bougie. Whereas Brian isn't. he is blue collar, earth dude. This adds to their conflict, not just the IR stuff, but Kenya is low key ashamed to be dating beneath her.
So much of the conflict is internal wit Kenya and something she needs to grapple with.
Yeah, Brian is ignorant of the stuff she has to face and almost wilful about it, but that feeds into Kenya's own internal disquiet.
But just from a movie spectacle perspective, Sanaa and Simon Baker have smoking chemistry.
Tina wrote: "Just to bring this back to Something New... I agree it is an excellent movie that touches on a lot of complex issues about IR dating. Interestingly, the biggest barrier isn't them being an IR coupl..."Well said. I saw the movie in the cinema and went out and purchased the DVD. It is a refreshing change of a story. A welcome relief from stories where the couple do not end up together for whatever reason and where racial tensions beats you over the head and beat you down.
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When I first start reading interracial books, I read books where, the bwwm couple would break up, because someone in their family and/or a friend was a racist. I got tired of reading stories like that, because again, every white and black person isn’t a racist.
People can be of the same race and have culture differences. Just because people are different races, doesn’t mean they don’t have the same culture.
I don’t read to escape and I like to see reality in stories.
I write interracial stories and my characters will never break up behind someone being racist, because I don’t write those kinds of stories.
I totally agree. I would like to read your stories. What are the titles?
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I’m not an author. I am just a writer. I have a story that I’m still writing to, this year will make 13 years. It’s a writing challenge that I’m participating on another group. We are just writing for fun. I know my story has a lot of errors in them.
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If you want to read it, let me know by sending me a message. I don’t want to take this thread by hostage, talking about my story. I will tell you a little bit about my story. The challenge was to write a dangerous bad boy; Theme: Kidnap. My story is a bwwm story. My hero’s name is Cop (he’s bald by choice and is seen as Agent 47) and heroine’s name is Sanjar (she’s a virgin/some people don’t like to read about virgins, female or male: she has three best friends. Two guys and a female. One of the guys is her dance partner and business partner.)
Okay, no hostage. This thread will continue on track.
Mosaic wrote: "Justine wrote: "And if his white family does not have any antagonizing issues towards the Nigerian family? What then? Should this story not be told?"First of all, did I said the story shouldn't b..."
Hell, I'll say it.
I don't want to read even a romantic fiction book with absolutely no conflict.
Part of the escapism for me is that love conquers. Its got to have an obstacle, a mountain, a roadblock-something. I'm not spending hours at a time zippety do dah'ing with a couple no matter how much I like how they fall for each other. It doesn't have to be about race, BUT there are still instances where its glaringly obvious it hasn't even been acknowledged and sadly, in 2023 thats more of a miss than it was a decade ago lol. So acknowledge it and move on to something that really does present a problem, but no, I don't like it never being mentioned. I've read books where if it weren't for the cover, I was halfway through before I could even be sure a character was black. To me thats ignoring it too much, but to each their own.
Don't know if anyone watches General Hospital (I don't) but they have a front burner IR romance among their 'new adult' set. It is a major deal because it is being written like an old skool super couple.Trina Robinson and Spencer Cassadine or Sprina as they are known. Their fanbase on twitter (#Sprina) is large and vocal. And they made the cover of the last week's People magazine celebrating the 60th anniversary of General Hospital (right alongside Luke and Laura)
The show has been laying the foundation for them for the last year and a half and they finally had their first kiss this week.
Bonus, the current Trina is dark skinned!
Like I said, I don't watch GH but wanted to see what the fuss was about. They have a lot of on screen chemistry and you can actually watch their entire storyline with just their scenes. This channel on youtube has basically pulled just their scenes so you can just watch their storyline play out without watching the rest.
https://www.youtube.com/@lmmn1789
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I used to watch General Hospital in the 90’s for the bwwm interracial couple, Jason and Keisha. Of course their pairing didn’t last very long and I’ve moved on.
Tina wrote: "Don't know if anyone watches General Hospital (I don't) but they have a front burner IR romance among their 'new adult' set. It is a major deal because it is being written like an old skool super c..."Man, I was diehard GH from the time my mom and older sisters watched it back in the day..I'm talking late 70's. I had to disembark the train when the last storyline I cared about just got to be unbearable (Sam and Jason) about 6-7 years ago. Now you gon' make me go back into Cheese Land smh. Spencer was a BABY last time I watched. And its been long enough for him to not be in real time now lol
Oh well. Its cold, I'm home and my kids basketball season is newly over. Might as well!
Arch wrote: "Tina wrote: "Don't know if anyone watches General Hospital (I don't) but they have a front burner IR romance among their 'new adult' set. It is a major deal because it is being written like an old ..."Yeah, they did them dirty. He was so sweet to her. Then A.J...ugh.
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My grandmother and aunts were in to General Hospital, when I was growing up. That’s how I always knew who Luke and Laura were.
Jason and Keisha’s romance was sweet. I liked AJ (Sean played on Karate Kid III), but they shouldn’t have hooked Keisha up with AJ. I think it’s nasty when a woman has been with one man and then a kinfolk, just as I think it’s nasty when a man has been with a woman and then a kinfolk. Also, I think it’s nasty when a man moves on from a woman to her best friend or a woman moves on from a man to his best friend.
Arch wrote: "Savannah- Quad Motherin' Book Readin' Diva wrote: "Yeah, they did them dirty. He was so sweet to her. Then A.J...ugh. "they shouldn’t have hooked Keisha up with AJ."
ABSOLUTELY AGREE.
Tina wrote: "Don't know if anyone watches General Hospital (I don't) but they have a front burner IR romance among their 'new adult' set. It is a major deal because it is being written like an old skool super c..."You nailed it, as usual. I think we've arrived at a point in at least IR (not necessarily the world) where we need more than race as the conflict. If thats it, then it has to have some very specific reasons. I just finished The Way Forward by Eliana West (horrible cover, but highly recommend) and the back story and location give the racial conflict credence. And even with that, they didn't make it a problem for anyone other than a handful, not the actual leads.
I dipped into the YT pages for Sprina...and got disappointed. I'd forgotten how awful soap acting is and I don't like this Spencer. I watched enough to wish the girl went for the hot cop LOL!
Yeah, LOL soap acting ranges from awful to not bad. Not everyone can be Judith Light. Also it is sad to see how far they have fallen from the heyday of the 80s/90s with the production values. The sets and everything just look cheap. I happened to catch an episode of Days of Our Lives and it looked pretty bad.
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Jessie and Regardt. Black woman and white man/on the show he’s referred to as being white. - They are a cute couple.
Tannie Maria (white woman) and Khaya (black man)
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