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message 1: by Bronwen (new)

Bronwen Jones (bronwenjones) | 20 comments Please help me. What should I name my boy character? It is 1888. The boy's mother is Maori, timeslipped from the 1700s but lived years in Paris (had her baby in Paris); his father is part-Maori also living in Paris but passing himself off as Italian (never been to NZ) - his mother is English. The boy is aged 11, born in Paris, where he has lived so far. He is kind and sweet, but sensitive and hears the heartbeats of machines, and hears their murmurings. He is taken by his mother to NZ and, in 1888, is the hope for the future in the struggle against rampant colonialism. He will become a politician. So, given all these elements, what is his name?


message 2: by Tui (new)

Tui Allen (tuibird) | 283 comments What fantastic challenge! OMG!
I wonder if there is a name that could be somehow French/English/Maori. Is he also strong? wilful?


message 3: by Tui (new)

Tui Allen (tuibird) | 283 comments Bronwen
I immediately started thinking in terms of Maori words with suitable meanings as this is what I do when writing about my dolphins, some of whom have Maori names.I often go to the online Maori/english dictionary. It might be of use to you too. It's here:
http://www.maoridictionary.co.nz/

Wero is a Maori word meaning 'challenge.'

Owha (noun) relic, keepsake, gift, treasured bequest, inheritance. He owha nā ōku tūpuna (JPS 1959:265). / A treasured bequest from my ancestors.

I also found this:
Rangihau, John Te Rangiāniwaniwa (personal name) (1919-1987) Tūhoe; charismatic leader, academic, social welfare officer, gifted speaker in Māori and English and authority on Māori language and custom. Fought with the 28th New Zealand (Māori) Battalion in Worl War II. Completed a diploma in social science at Victoria University of Wellington. Awarded the British Empire Medal in 1975 for services to Māori. Worked at The University of Waikato in the Centre for Māori Studies and Research (1973-1982) and as an advisor for the Māori Affairs Department from 1982.
(Te Kōhure Textbook (Ed. 2): 82-88;)


message 4: by Bronwen (new)

Bronwen Jones (bronwenjones) | 20 comments Tui, thanks for inspiration. Yes, he is young but already a leader. (This isn't YA, tho). SEveral good suggestions in your post. Cheers.


message 5: by Sharlene (new)

Sharlene (sharlenehuriwai) | 595 comments Mod
Like Tui, I think of Maori names.

There is a french settlement in Akaroa of the Banks Peninsula. I haven't heard Akaroa as a name but could be usable. Maori for long harbour according to wikipedia. There is also a place called Little Akaloa. Maybe Akaloa, sounds Italianish...

What about a common Parisian name like Pierre?

there are too many things to consider!


message 6: by Angie (new)

Angie (seren-lucy) | 1147 comments Maybe Piripi (sp?) - Maori form of Philip and Philippe (sp?) is French is it not?


message 7: by Angie (new)

Angie (seren-lucy) | 1147 comments Hemi? Tamati?

Tama is nice too.


message 8: by Sweetp-1 (new)

Sweetp-1 | 402 comments Matai (or just Tai)
Rangi
Anaru (Andrew)


I also really love the sound of your book!


message 9: by Bronwen (new)

Bronwen Jones (bronwenjones) | 20 comments Thank you, Sharlene. Good thoughts here.

Sharlene wrote: "Like Tui, I think of Maori names.

There is a french settlement in Akaroa of the Banks Peninsula. I haven't heard Akaroa as a name but could be usable. Maori for long harbour according to wikipedi..."



message 10: by Bronwen (new)

Bronwen Jones (bronwenjones) | 20 comments Yes, that would transition nicely too.

Angie wrote: "Maybe Piripi (sp?) - Maori form of Philip and Philippe (sp?) is French is it not?"


message 11: by Bronwen (new)

Bronwen Jones (bronwenjones) | 20 comments Good point with the ending in "i", Kathleen. Thanks.

Kathleen wrote: "I'm thinking that Piripi (as Angie has suggested), or some other Maori word that ends in the "i" would work well as it has an Italian sound. That would fit with the father's passing himself off as..."


message 12: by Bronwen (new)

Bronwen Jones (bronwenjones) | 20 comments Angie, Sweetpi-1 - more good suggestions. Thanks so much. Thanks especially about the nice remark about my book, Sweetpi.

Sweetp-1 wrote: "Matai (or just Tai)
Rangi
Anaru (Andrew)


I also really love the sound of your book!"



message 13: by Sweetp-1 (new)

Sweetp-1 | 402 comments It sounds almost steampunkish with the time slip and hearing the machines?


message 14: by Tui (new)

Tui Allen (tuibird) | 283 comments Choose carefully Bron. Characters have a habit of taking on unexpected significance from their names, that you might not have expected.
I recently gave a character in my current story the name "Atarangi." It means "shadow"
I thought it suited the character because he followed his mother like a shadow. Then the story developed and he wound up becoming a dreadful shadow over his mother's life.


message 15: by Bronwen (new)

Bronwen Jones (bronwenjones) | 20 comments Sweetp-1, well spotted. Yes, there is a bit of steampunk. Not too heavy - I'm still learning about it. Love it, tho.

Tui, Love the way your character morphs - shadow into shadow. Can't wait to read your next novel.

Everyone, thanks so much for your input.


message 16: by Angie (new)

Angie (seren-lucy) | 1147 comments Have you decided?! Have you decided?! Have you decided?!


message 17: by Sweetp-1 (new)

Sweetp-1 | 402 comments Steampunk is great. I really enjoy reading it and have a pinterest board of pretty steampunk things, not into cosplay or anything but the genre really appeals.


message 18: by Tui (new)

Tui Allen (tuibird) | 283 comments This so cool. We get to feel we are helping with the new novel. You couldn't do this in Dickens' day.


message 19: by Bronwen (new)

Bronwen Jones (bronwenjones) | 20 comments At the mo, I'm going with Tobias-Toby-Topi. I'm still not settled with the name and when I write more of the boy's character, another name might pop up.

But in the meantime, Toby fits:
Tobias - from the Greek; plus Old Testament story of a man who banishes a demon (Toby banishes a "demon" from his recently found koro)
Topi - middle name of Capt George Toby Philpotts, who was killed fighting at Kororareka (Russell) in 1845, and whose scalp was brought to the tohunga for examination to ascertain the outcome of war. The boy's mother is from Kororareka.

So that's how it goes at the moment. But when I type Toby said this, that, it doesn't sit quite right, so we shall see.

Big thanks to all. I loved how you jumped in with suggestions. It made me feel all warm and cosy - not so alone in my writing.


message 20: by Sweetp-1 (new)

Sweetp-1 | 402 comments Im so intrigued by your premise. Would love to read it :)


message 21: by Bronwen (new)

Bronwen Jones (bronwenjones) | 20 comments Thank you, Sweetp. I hope to finish the manuscript this year. :)


message 22: by Tui (new)

Tui Allen (tuibird) | 283 comments Can't wait.


message 23: by Sharlene (new)

Sharlene (sharlenehuriwai) | 595 comments Mod
I'm looking forward to reading this one. Keep writing!


message 24: by Bronwen (new)

Bronwen Jones (bronwenjones) | 20 comments Thank you, Sharlene!


message 25: by Tui (new)

Tui Allen (tuibird) | 283 comments I like Toby.


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