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Darn it! Just bought myself a cup of coffee that tastes like manky dishwater.This is an outrage. Hmpf.
I hate stores displaying with an open sign permanently whether they are open or closed. I think they mean open as in not yet gone out of business.
Averin wrote: "Colton wrote: "I am quite discouraged in looking at the Spice poll at:
http://www.goodreads.com/poll/list/95...
that cinnamon fans are one vote behind vanilla vot..."
Rats "spice poll sounds" so much more exciting than s"pice and herb poll"
Thank you Averin, The poll has been renamed.
Boyd wrote: "Lori and anyone who wants to comment I'm wondering if LGBTQ would work.I wish instead of LBG then LGBT now LGBTQ the acronym would have been GSM for "gender and sexual minorities" or something like that was used so we don't have to deal with adding letters for Curious, Questioning, Transvestites, Intersexed, Asexual and others. Obviously the public has started to recognize LGBT and I don't think LGBTQ would be hard to accept but the idea of adding many other differing sexual minorities LGBTTQQCIA would not get much acceptance with anyone.
GSM would be so much easier and more inclusive but since LGBT has caught on it would be hard to change now.
Bill Serpe, the executive director of Senior Action in a Gay Environment (SAGE), has defined "queer" is a catchall word for anyone who is outside the societal norm, not just those who identify themselves as part of the gay community.
So would LGBTQ satisfy the majority of people are who are asexual and in the other gender and sexual minorities?"
Recently, on another forum, I encountered someone who likes the term QUILTBAG - talk about a mouthful. (I had to look the word up [Urban Dictionary] =
Q - Queer and Questioning
U - Unidentified
I - Intersex
L - Lesbian
T - Transgender, Transexual
B - Bisexual
A - Asexual
G - Gay, Genderqueer)
I have encountered people, who, though they identify as asexual, definitely do not consider themselves queer (they come across as being quite offended by the idea). Labels are almost a contradiction in terms, being freeing, while at the same time being confining, helpful to placing oneself in context to others, while also possibly being opened up to possible ridicule.
While I agree that GSM would a good deal simpler to deal with, it's a very recent term and does not seem to be gathering much in the way of acceptance. Plus, there's a weight of 43 years+/- of hard work on the part of the LGBT community to gain acceptance and to throw that out right now would cause more harm than good.
I can see why some have such a hard time with having to deal with a whole new group of people whose orientation doesn't include sex (or, at the very least, don't see sex as the major part of having intimate relations with other people), because it really seems to throw all those arguments for acceptance of difference from the "norm" into the air. By the same token, part of its strength is acceptance of the much wider complexity of human experience.
The older I get, the more I notice how complicated and wider the variation of reality. The accepted simple binary heteronormative really doesn't exist.
Any way, I'm not sure what I'm discussing any more. It's been an extremely long week, I'm exhausted and my brain is mush.
Just a thought though:
Neo: Do you always look at it encoded?
Cypher: Well, you have to. The image translators work for the construct program, but there's way too much information to decode the Matrix. You get used to it. I — I don't even see the code. All I see is blonde, brunette, redhead...
Lori wrote: "I have encountered people, who, though they identify as asexual, definitely do not consider themselves queer."complaining nothing is simple.
deleted user wrote: "The flogging will continue until morale improves."Totally stunned, but what is this !!?? And its relevance to the chain of posts?
Who is [ deleted user ] ?
SueC wrote: "Darn it! Just bought myself a cup of coffee that tastes like manky dishwater.This is an outrage. Hmpf."
Ugh! There are few things worse than buying a manky cup of coffee.
I am marginally disturbed that many people would enjoy listening to this young man talking about Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) as a different way of thinking but just don't know about the video or don't have time due to the bad coffee :-)Why should kid be forced chemically fit into the same mold? I found this new way of looking at ADHD fascinating and the speaker is very engaging.
Edited add-on: Roger said it better (below) calling this TED Talk "Brilliant… witty, definitely engaging, and a great proselytist for altering the standard medical mindset on ADHD."
Link is here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU6o2...
I grumpily grouch that
THIS CONTEST HAS BEEN CANCELLED BECAUSE OF LACK OF INTERESTThe Complaint Department is holding a Caption Contest. To enter make up a funny caption for this cartoon:
The captions will be put in a poll for members to vote to determine thewhinerwinner.
Thewienerwinner will receive an ebook of A Life Apart by author and Complaint Department member Roger Kean which was a Book of the Month in both the M/M Romance Group and Queerreaders. ($4.99 value)
The contest will run from now until the Fourth of July or 07/04/13 or this coming USA Independence Day which ever comes first.
All members are eligible to enter this contest including Roger Kean.
To enter post 1 to 5 (no more than 5) funny captions in the comment section of the CAPTION CONTEST in the GAMES section. Do post any comments except contest entries. Again, post CONTEST ENTRY CAPTIONS ONLY. All other comments in the Caption Contest thread will be deleted.
Any questions should be send as a message (PM) to one of the three co-moderators.
To quickly get to the contest click on this link:
http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/1...
I'm crumpily bad at captioning pictures, but this one has the potential for commentary of the furrious kind.
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Preston wrote: "I am marginally disturbed that many people would enjoy listening to this young man talking about Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) as a different way of thinking but just don't know a..."I'm disturbed to have spent 13+ minutes of my valuable time with Stephen Tonti at his TED Talk and been beguiled by his glib presentation < is that enough of a complaint?… >
Brilliant… witty, definitely engaging, and a great proselytist for altering the standard medical mindset on ADHD. I'm often guilty of
http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotati...
He was the launch editor of our Commodore 64 games magazine ZZAP!64 in 1985. Here is is then, celebrating at the launch party held at a restaurant in Ludlow, cutting the Zzap Cake.
And with some of the team: Denise Roberts, Bob Wade, Matthew Uffindell, and Oliver Frey.
Colton wrote: "I grumpily grouch that
The Complaint Department is holding a Caption Contest. To enter make up a funny caption for this cartoon:
The captions will be put in a poll for members to vote to deter..."
How very flibberty-busting. I'm useless at picture captions… ;-)
Roger wrote: "How very flibberty-busting. I'm useless at picture captions… ;-) "
Sadly it doesn't matter. There were no entries so the Caption Contest was cancelled due to lack of interest.
Roger wrote: "I'm often guilty of enjoying wasting my time with TED Talks, perhaps it's a bias in having known the principal founder-director Chris Anderson...He was the launch editor of our Commodore 64 games magazine ZZAP!64 in 1985. Here is is then, celebrating at the launch party held at a restaurant in Ludlow, cutting the Zzap Cake."For those who are not up to speed yet on the UK's best selling Commodore 64 magazine Zzap!64 was one of several Newsfield publications back when the old 8 bit home computer market had just begun to flourish. Roger, his partner Oliver Frey and Oliver's brother Franco operated Newfield.
For an inside look back to those times in the 1980's and to see Roger with a mustache, check out the Youtube video, The Newsfield Years at this link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCWjGv...
Averin wrote: "[image of 'Complaint Translator']"Very cool machine, Averin. I need one. Where do I send my $5.95?
I'm disgusted at my own It's a 3,700 word section from Re-Felixitations called Hieronymous, which I wrote last year. It's waiting for fellow Felix bits to catch up sometime to become a full-scale novel!
I can deliver in .mobi (Kindle) .epub (most other readers) or Word.doc or .pdf
You want to get your hands on it, PM me with an email to deliver to.
Groan, grouse, gripe, grump, but enormous fun, although not from a happy source – Anil's Face Book postings of the events in Istanbul and Turkey-wide when miss-translated by Bing can be hilarious.
Upsetting to say, the content when corrected by Anil wipes out the humor all too often.
Roger wrote: "I'm disgusted at my own generosity meanness, but frankly I think every Complainer deserves to be thrilled bored stiff by reading this freebie offer to all members, although as I don't have an auto ..."Inner history geek loves: the Brabant, just desert, carillon, okay none of that probably helps anyone else. I loved it.
Lori wrote: "I'm crumpily bad at captioning pictures, but this one has the potential for commentary of the furrious kind."Hi Lori,
Annoying I note nobody has entered contest so maybe you could win by default
>< smiling ><
We have a new member Akhil Kang who is also a member of Queerreaders and I am complaining that he is far too handsome (super hot!) to be a member of this group. Akhil makes the rest of guys look ordinary in comparison to his ultra hunkiness.
I am totally disintended by the shocking news of the arrests of British tourists having a nice game of Bingo in Portugal!http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/world...
And they were only playing for biscuits (cookies, you Americans). The proprietor was fined as well. Mind, owning a bar on the south coast of Portugal called the Yorkshire Tavern can't have helped. That's a bit like going to Spain's Costa del Sol for the local culture and finding nothing but British fish n chips.
I'm desperately sorry Ahem!
Check out the Victorian ramblings of that great diarist and serial writer Charles 'Cock' Dockins, created by (view spoiler). Wear something old, it's very smutty in the olde cobbled streets…
I should also bitterly complain (or is that nialpmoc in Boyd's backward world?) that my name has been taken in vain by the despicable author(s), and not only mine.
Boyd wrote: "We have a new member Akhil Kang who is also a member of Queerreaders and I am complaining that he is far too handsome (super hot!) to be a member of this group. Akhil makes the rest of guys look o..."I'm terribly worried as to what the super-hot Akhil Kang did to lose the mind he's so clearly missing. Answers on a postcard to Uncle Mac's Kiddie Korner, BBC, Wood Lane, London W14 7AJ, United Kingdom of Great Britain (at least until Scotland pulls out).
More a moan than a complaint: Why can't we have more bands like Echo and the Bunnymen? There are moments on "The Cutter" when Ian McCulloch sounds like Jim Morrison, the "King of Orgasmic Rock" (probably why Echo did "People Are Strange" on the Lost Boys soundtrack).https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...
Who's on the seventh floor
Brewing alternatives?
What's in the bottom drawer
Waiting for things to give?
Spare us the cutter.
Spare us the cutter.
Couldn't cut the
Mustard.
Roger wrote: "... Mind, owning a bar on the south coast of Portugal called the Yorkshire Tavern can't have helped. That's a bit like going to Spain's Costa del Sol for the local culture and finding nothing but British fish n chips."Or going to London and eating at McDonald's rather than a pub*.
__________
*My sister refused to eat anywhere else unless I forced her to.
I went once to Rome with Oliver on July 31 and dined at a small restaurant not far from Termini main station. They were all but closed down for the traditional August holiday month. In some alarm, having confirmed that all sensible Italian joints would be shut for the month, we asked where we were going to eat. The waiter gave an eloquent shrug and said, "McDonna's."
Roger wrote: "More a moan than a complaint: Why can't we have more bands like Echo and the Bunnymen? There are moments on "The Cutter" when Ian McCulloch sounds like Jim Morrison, the "King of Orgasmic Rock" (pr..."I'd like to complain that I can't really complain about The song ' people are Strange' because I love that song so if I love it I can't really complain!
Dash it Roger why did you mention it!
:::sigh:::I am complaining that I am not in the least surprised that other than co-moderators only two members posted messages since yesterday.
No body has entered the Caption Contest so it has been cancelled due to lack of interest.
Hardly anyone is even playing games.
Sadly I think the days of the Complaint Department are numbered.
Would the last person to leave please turn off the lights.
I grumpily grouch that
THIS CONTEST HAS BEEN CANCELLED BECAUSE OF LACK OF INTERESTThe Complaint Department is holding a Caption Contest. To enter make up a funny caption for this cartoon:
The captions will be put in a poll for members to vote to determine thewhinerwinner.
Thewienerwinner will receive an ebook of A Life Apart by author and Complaint Department member Roger Kean which was a Book of the Month in both the M/M Romance Group and Queerreaders. ($4.99 value)
The contest will run from now until the Fourth of July or 07/04/13 or this coming USA Independence Day which ever comes first.
All members are eligible to enter this contest including Roger Kean.
To enter post 1 to 5 (no more than 5) funny captions in the comment section of the CAPTION CONTEST in the GAMES section. Do post any comments except contest entries. Again, post CONTEST ENTRY CAPTIONS ONLY. All other comments in the Caption Contest thread will be deleted.
Any questions should be send as a message (PM) to one of the three co-moderators.
To quickly get to the contest click on this link:
http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/1...
Grrr..Many thanks to our most spectacular member Lori and and smartest member and creative genius Roger for your heroic efforts to try to keep the Complaint Department alive but...
Well there is always hope. Not much though.
Hello again from vacationland! The last several days I've been in Nebraska where my wireless carrier sucks! I have to be with it, since hubby's job is "out in the brush" and there isn't any other carrier to go to out there:( The park I stayed in had no wifi. I was really in the boonies. So I'm in South Dakota at a park with wifi:) FINALLY!!!!
It was fun Colton, thanks. I managed to get a 5 generation picture and get a copy of the one I had done when my son was born. My Daughter in law also got a copy of that one:) Soooo, many people though! Glad as I am to see everyone I'm happy they don't happen often. Exhausting.
1. I not any good at that kind of thing2. Ugly-ass bear from ugly place.
Here's what a worthy mascot looks like:
Tj wrote: "I managed to get a 5 generation picture and get a copy of the one I had done when my son was born...."\Grrrrrr(eat!) Grumbling that Five generations is a very remarkable family. Congratulations!
I grumpily announce that I have posted in M/M Romance WIP the prologue for the fifth Boys of…
Boy of the West End
, which is slated for a spring release.http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/9...
How dreadful, a 5.0 out of 5 stars Hot and horny. 24 Jun 2013
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On my screen it says "Boys of the Fast lane: A Gay Erotic Novel". They're not wrong. Mike and Gil, the hottest and cutest gay boys in contemporary fiction, are back together. After an enforced separation will love triumph? Lust certainly does as the two lovers make up for lost time. In Roger Kean's brilliantly evocative script, not only do Mike and Gil have joyously uninhibited sex together, it seems that all their mates consider a blow job the only polite way to renew old friendships. But it's not all fun. The tensions between Gil and Mike grow darker when Mike is set to mentor pop idol Nathan Cliffe as he stars in his first movie. The spoiled brat is used to getting everything he wants, in this case his hand and more in Mike's pants. But Nathan himself has fallen prey to arch-villain Mundy. Can Mike, and a jealous Gil, rescue Nathan from disaster? Turns out the kid isn't so bad, especially once he and Mike and then he, Mike and Gil have sealed their friendship in what they all do best: ball-busting sex.
Just in case your imagination is not up to the task, Zack's stunningly sexy drawings will fill in the gaps.
Mike and Gil are, in this book, a bit older and a lot savvier. And as sexy as ever.
I wish to
Averin wrote: "Prop 8 too!"I complain with great anger that the Supreme Court had the opportunity to declare all state bans on gay marriage unconstitutional but instead chose the safe and slow way by only saying California cannot discriminate against gays marrying under Prop 8.
Had the court made the ruling apply to all states, this would have made gay marriage legal in all 50 states. But the
That makes Independence Day 2013 a real letdown. There'll be no sparklers and flags for me this July 4th.
The grumpstunting politicians will always find the slow ("and steady, my friend") way to avoid real truths. It needs another Stonewall, only a countrywide one.
Preston wrote: "Averin wrote: "Prop 8 too!"I complain with great anger that the Supreme Court had the opportunity to declare all state bans on gay marriage unconstitutional but instead chose the safe and slow wa..."
Respectfully, Preston, you're wrong. On the Prop 8 case (and I admit I'm basing this on news reports, but from what I know of the case itself, I'm reasonably sure the reports are accurate) the Court would have been violating hundreds of years of precedent to do anything other than what it did.
Every case in every state and federal court in the country has to be filed or pursued by someone with "standing," that is, a person or entity who has a valid legal stake in the outcome, someone who will suffer actual damage regardless of who wins. (If the plaintiff wins, the defendant is damaged and vice versa.)
That was true in California at the Federal District Court level. The plaintiffs who wanted to get married would suffer damage if they lost (no right to marry) and the State of California chose to defend Prop 8. Once a trial court renders a judgment, the side that's upset by the judgment (sometimes both sides) has a right to go the court of appeals and ask to have the trial court's decision reversed or modified.
But that's a right reserved for the *parties* to the suit, not persons or entities who have an interest in the outcome but who were never participants in the case. California decided not to appeal the outcome, which it had the absolute right to do, just as a doctor who loses a medical malpractice case has a right to decide not to appeal and let the judgment stand.
For whatever reason, the Ninth Circuit (the Federal appeals court that basically includes the West Coast and Hawai'i) let the supporters of Prop 8 (never parties, never made any attempt to intervene and become parties) pursue an appeal. I personally suspect that they allowed it rather than take the public heat for doing what the Supreme Court did, and tell the Prop 8 folks, "the State is the only one with standing, you don't have it, appeal dismissed."
The Prop 8 supporters had no *personal* stake in whether the plaintiffs could or could not be married; their lives would not be affected one way or the other. So the Supreme Court had to do what the Ninth Circuit should have.
Should the issue of a fundamental right for gays to marry under the United States Constitution be decided (favorably to us of course)? Absolutely. But to do that will require new litigation in a state which bans gay marriage, filed by gays who want to get married there, with a state government willing to fight to the bitter end (the Supreme Court), in order to get that issue to our highest court.
Do I wish the world and legal realities were other than they are? Yep. But I regretfully agree that the 5 who voted to find no standing made the correct decision.
[Ka-thump!] [The sound of me getting off ye olde soapbox.]
And my apologies if any offense was taken, as none was intended.
Eric
The court went the right route for the decisions. They're the Judicial Branch of the government, not Legislative. It'll be up to each state now to make the decisions on these issues.
Lori wrote: "The court went the right route for the decisions. They're the Judicial Branch of the government, not Legislative. It'll be up to each state now to make the decisions on these issues."There were no African Americans who benefited from civil rights through broader decisions of state level issues? Hmmm. Someone should check that.
For another view on Prop 8 and US wide implications see this excerpt from a Huffing Post Article by By MARK SHERMAN 06/23/13 (before the decision.)
Q. What if the court strikes down Proposition 8?
A. A ruling in favor of the two same-sex couples who sued to invalidate the gay marriage ban could produce one of three possibilities. The broadest would apply across the country, in effect invalidating constitutional provisions or statutes against gay marriage everywhere.
Or a majority of the justices could agree on a middle option that applies only to California as well as Colorado, Hawaii, Illinois, Nevada, New Jersey and Oregon. Those states already treat gay and straight couples the same in almost every respect through civil unions or domestic partnerships. The only difference is that gay couples there are not allowed to marry.
This so-called seven-state solution would say that the Constitution forbids states to withhold marriage from same-sex couples while giving them all the basic rights of married people. But this ruling would not implicate marriage bans in other states and would leave open the question of whether states could deprive gay couples of any rights at all.
The narrowest of these potential outcomes would apply to California only. The justices essentially would adopt the rationale of the federal appeals court that found that California could not take away the right to marry that had been granted by the state Supreme Court in 2008, before Proposition 8 passed.
In addition, if the Supreme Court were to rule that gays and lesbians deserve special protection from discriminatory laws, it is unlikely that any state ban on same-sex marriage could survive long, even if the justices don't issue an especially broad ruling in this case.
SOURCE:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06...
I do agree that broader decisions would have been wonderful and it's disappointing they went the more (ahem) conservative way, but change is a process and though the polls support same-sex marriage, there are still people who need to be convinced and those who will fight tooth and claw to stop the inevitable to the very end. Those are the people who need to be either won over or slowly displaced by those who share similar ideals with the rest.Vote! Go to the polls for people who will fight for those changes. Be active.
Sudden, rapid change isn't always a good thing. Slow is annoying, true, but it gives time for adjustment, education, people to learn new ways and thoughts.
OK, ramble over. Hope that made some sense.
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