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message 4401: by Boyd, Hunk of hunky burning passion (last edited Jun 19, 2013 01:53AM) (new)

Boyd (boydwalker) | 2304 comments I'm disgusted with myself for trying to shame you into helping out our former moderator Macky.

The moderator informed/reminded everyone that Macky (who was almost always the first to give cheer and good wishes to all who were hurting) needs lots of get well support from her fellow members now that she is ill.

He suggested posting in them in the Compassion and Hugs for People with Serious Complaints thread which you can reach at this link:
http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/1...

Not a single member posted a get well wish to her in the Compassion and Hugs for People with Serious Complaints thread.

As I said, I'm disgusted with myself for trying to shame you into helping out our former moderator Macky.


message 4402: by Wendy (new)

Wendy My apologies to Boyd, who had already been to visit Macky. I should look at links first, and usually do, but am on my kindle which makes switching around harder. Sorry, sweet one.


message 4403: by Kim (new)

Kim Alan (KimPossum) Goesta -- Regretfully, I must complain about addressing this yet again, because I spoke to you privately about it, but just to make it public -- the only part of my post meant for you, directly, was the initial comment. It's my mistake to assume that a paragraph break and *new* complaint were enough to delineate said change. Well, that, and the fact that nothing else I said was relevant to anything you had said or done anywhere else, and even I'm smart enough to know that.

I am thankful that you didn't read my comments to be directed at you, but it obviously wasn't immediately apparent. I've edited my initial post to clarify, btw. So, so sorry if it even momentarily caught you off guard, 'cause I adore you, even if I only understand about every 3rd word you write. :)


message 4404: by Goesta (new)

Goesta Kim wrote: "Goesta -- Regretfully, I must complain about addressing this yet again, because I spoke to you privately about it, but just to make it public -- the only part of my post meant for you, directly, wa..."

Hi Kim, no/yes, we were totally clear (and in any case I perceived no criticism from you) ;) , but since you got some flak for seeming to speak about others through addressing me, so it's probably good sorting it out.


message 4405: by Averin (new)

Averin | 1962 comments I am pissed that some weasel-butt has placed past Don't Read in the Closet, LIAW stories for sale at $2.99 each. It's not my dog in the fight but piracy should be stomped whenever it's found.


message 4406: by Lori S. (new)

Lori S. (fuzzipueo) | 2809 comments Averin wrote: "I am pissed that some weasel-butt has placed past Don't Read in the Closet, LIAW stories for sale at $2.99 each. It's not my dog in the fight but piracy should be stomped whenever it's found."

Now, that's just wrong.


message 4407: by Averin (new)

Averin | 1962 comments Yes, imagine being the person who buys one, only to see "this is free from the M/M Romance group."


message 4408: by Lori S. (new)

Lori S. (fuzzipueo) | 2809 comments Averin wrote: "Yes, imagine being the person who buys one, only to see "this is free from the M/M Romance group.""

This is the downside of electronic media - why some authors have been so hesitant to transfer their books to ebook format. With jerkazoids like the one mentioned above, I can't help but think those authors aren't far wrong.


message 4409: by Roger (new)

Roger Kean | 17278 comments I am besnickered by the DRM debate. Smashwords encourages not activating digital rights management because it's supposed to be an honorable world in which a purchaser of your book will not give it away to any friends, instead encouraging them to buy their own copies. Amazon's KDP offers similar advice, that rights-free books will reach a wider audience and the author will in the end receive more in the way of royalty payments than by being mean and opting to protect their interests with DRM.

Unfortunately, it's not a particularly honorable world. As we see, when unscrupulous rats actually foist copies of work that really is free on unsuspecting readers who pay said gutter dweller. And this also happens to authors who take the non-DRM route – one day they're horrified to see their book on sale from an entirely different source claiming authorship… and the money.


message 4410: by Preston, Moderator (new)

Preston | 20148 comments Grumpy great thanks to all who responded to Boyd's posting and sent their thoughts of support and caring to Macky.

Macky likes to keep things upbeat so outwardly keeps her good cheer and never complains even when she is in pain and feeling all discombobulated.

Macky we really need you so I hope that doctor put you on the road a quick return to your former stamina and level of almost bearable discomfort—obviously my wish is that you could dump that wheelchair and would instantly feel perfect and powerfully healthy but I'll be happy with any amount of improvement possible.

Hugs!


message 4411: by Lori S. (new)

Lori S. (fuzzipueo) | 2809 comments Grouchily, our loverly Moderator suggested I repost this here for your perusal:

Huffington Post is running a series of articles on Asexuality. Thought I'd post each of the links here, if anyone's interested in reading them. :o)

1. What is Asexuality?

2. Asexual Disorder? The Search For Ace Identity Is Part Recognition, Part Redefinition

3. Asexual Relationships

4. 6/20/13


message 4412: by [deleted user] (new)

I would complain about that again I have new outbreaks in the body that are running over the places on my body where arthritis has set itself. I am angry, sad, tired and my mood is just like shit. I've talked with a new doctor, fortunately, it seems that these doctors who have the same first name as my father is thorough and helpful, I will be thoroughly examined and tested each time and they listen to me and my symptoms.

I've got new arthritis outbreak in fingers, wrists, knees. There must be new X-ray images and all this adds up to a bio conference on next Friday. Both doctors I've talked to think clearly that my disease is morbus becterew and hips showing on MRI scan that there are changes and has been inflammation.

I am alarmed by the new outbreak in the body which has come after 2 months this knowing that every time I visit the hospital, my body is more damaged.

I have unbearable pain all the time and take more pain pills, I have no appetite and feel tired all the time.

I have over the last 6 months had colds with fever, no resilience and often no sleep. 

My only hope of getting better quality of life is that they give the green light for biological medicine, so I can be pain free the rest of my life. The pain will not stop until I am 70-80 years old and this is many years waiting for this.

About six weeks there is a new meeting with the doctor, but if given the green light for biological medicine I come in quickly.

This ex-doctor has destroyed much and the old medical oath to help his patients, he do not care, I would have ended my days as a cripple if I had not called. This can make me very bitter and hateful, a doctor who is more interested in research and titles than in his patients' well-being, is an idiot and malicious doctor. 

I have not written anything in here the last several weeks as I had hoped for something positive to tell, but both is this any better than in March / April. I have been too tired and not thinking as clearly, but this is probably the best so far.

@ I wrote on her wall, and hope the best for her, hugs and kisses <3

@Ijem I also wish all happiness and may your mother rest in peace and take care of you. My thoughts will be with you on Friday, hugs and kisses <3

@ Anil I am frightened by what is happening where you live and hope that you are ok, I am angry and sad about that this school can not be responsible enough to help you and so you can live in the UK. Good luck with the trial and give them battle, the truth will win. 

I will not talk about the rest when I find nothing compared to my health and Macky's what this new moderator will and do none of my business and if he wants to remain anonymous so this is it. 

I'm not out to get to argue with anyone but I feel like shit just like Macky and just wish someone would help us to become pain free.

I do not know how when I have the strength again to complain here and will follow as best I can, but the answer must not expect to get.

Now I'm tired and exhausted to write all this, see you next time in the future when my energy and mood is for this and the pain more bearable. 


message 4413: by Goesta (new)

Goesta Roger wrote: "I am besnickered by the DRM debate. Smashwords encourages not activating digital rights management because it's supposed to be an honorable world in which a purchaser of your book will not give it ..."

Couple of irritating problems with copy protection, though. Would I have bought music CDs (to wax nostalgically) that could only be played back on a Sony? Paper books that I could only read under light bulbs from Philips? I think not. Unless all publishers agree on a standard encryption, the whole thing is in my view untenable. Especially since it is so easily circumventable that it doesn't prevent piracy at all, so all it really serves is the publisher/manufacturer, i.e. to ensure brand loyalty. Or?


message 4414: by Lori S. (new)

Lori S. (fuzzipueo) | 2809 comments Helle wrote: "I would complain about that again I have new outbreaks in the body that are running over the places on my body where arthritis has set itself. I am angry, sad, tired and my mood is just like shit. ..."

Ah, Helle, I hope your new doctors can help and that they can ease the pain you are feeling. Take care of yourself.


message 4415: by Averin (new)

Averin | 1962 comments Roger wrote: "I am besnickered by the DRM debate. Smashwords encourages not activating digital rights management because it's supposed to be an honorable world in which a purchaser of your book will not give it ..."

I hope the joke is on them as one of the authors pirated is an attorney in RL.


message 4416: by Averin (new)

Averin | 1962 comments Helle wrote: "I would complain about that again I have new outbreaks in the body that are running over the places on my body where arthritis has set itself. I am angry, sad, tired and my mood is just like shit. ..."

I should like to trash and gnash this morbus becterew which Wikipedia says is ankylosing spondylitis, not that that makes it better. I wish you success in your battles and relief of pain.


message 4417: by Preston, Moderator (new)

Preston | 20148 comments Lori wrote: "Grouchily, our loverly Moderator suggested I repost this here for your perusal:

Huffington Post is running a series of articles on Asexuality. Thought I'd post each of the links here, if anyone's..."


Re: Message # 4572 (see message 4572 to get the links)

This series of articles is very educational and is excellent reading. I hope a lot of people read it and finally understand and embrace asexuals as part of our diversity as straight and gay and people of all other sexual orientations.


message 4418: by Preston, Moderator (last edited Jun 19, 2013 12:25PM) (new)

Preston | 20148 comments Things that are obvious:

Only Rodger Kean sent me a PM. Thanks Roger. Nice photo. So other than that I feel very unwelcome.

The idea that I don't exist, I am somebody in the group with a new name, I am Boyd or Preston or evenI am Lucas, and all the other conspiracy theories will never go away.

Though I am someone Lucas thought could handle the job, obviously I am not. Of the the people who even bothered to vote so far there is a small plurality in favor of me staying but not a majority.

My presence has caused a few people to post messages expressing animosity.

This group should be called the Cult of Lucas instead of the Complaint Department. Everyone wants Lucas back even knowing he won't be back since he left GR altogether. Everyone is angry that he just took off without saying goodbye and just assuming people would understand he was gone do what he's being saying all along he would do: graduate, plan wedding, get married, go on honeymoon, and get a job.

You will never be happy with anyone who is not Lucas whose life was like it leaped off the page of a M/M Romance book which most of you love to read.

Here is why I'm not using my photo and giving details about my life:



I hid behind a question mark because I am straight and I am married and I knew you would never accept a heterosexual male as moderator despite the statement that this group is for all sexual orientations including straight. I did put anything in my profile or books because I don't read gay romance books or M/M as I discovered they were called. I reads straight books with heterosexuals. As for my person life, my wife is my total personal life. We do everything together.

Too many people have stopped participating in the group already or said they were going to not come to Complaint Department with any frequency if at all.

I don't want to be the cause for this group to wither and die. It looks like with me it was inevitable the group would fall apart. In fact it is already a wreck. Only a small fraction of the members are actively participating here and more are about to jump ship. Lucas, wherever you are, if you were still around I'd punch you in the face you no good creep but appallingly charismatic dumb jock.


So there is no sense waiting until after Saturday for the results of the quick poll. But I am not Lucas so I will not just disappear and leave you without a moderator at all. I will say goodbye before stepping down rather than suddenly become [deleted user] without a word of warning.

Hey Lucas if you are lurking somewhere, sorry it didn't work man. I told you it was crazy to put a straight guy with wife in as mod but you live in a dream world where everything is always nice and pleasant. Give me your new email address when you get around to it.

Y'all love Goesta so much why do you put him in charge. Or just move yourselves move to his group "minemineminemine" at this link:
http://www.goodreads.com/group/show/9...


message 4419: by Preston, Moderator (new)

Preston | 20148 comments Wendy wrote: "have a beautiful wife, not to mention that you're pretty cute yourself..."

Preston told me you were beautiful and he was right! Giving you a wet sloppy pristine kiss. My wife lets me look at other women so I can say that. She is so darn smug about her complete hold on me she won't even mind my tongue down your throat my little peck on the forehead.

Hugs, Colter Vidor (or just Colt for short)


message 4420: by Preston, Moderator (last edited Jun 19, 2013 12:53PM) (new)

Preston | 20148 comments JustJen wrote: "...truly wish you had just "come out" to us from the beginning, wherein I have no doubt the welcome would have been much more favorable."

Consider this my Coming Out Party as I reveal my Straight Pride.

Still, the guys won't like me because I didn't have their experiences growing up straight I was never bullied (never was a bully though) or discriminated against in any way especially not by all the girls :)

The women won't like me because I'm not M/M romance material and don't even read those books. And being deliriously happily married to my pretty gal I have found is a liability because people aren't supposed to really love only their wife.

Hugs, Colt


message 4421: by Preston, Moderator (new)

Preston | 20148 comments Wendy wrote: "I've just been given my first assignment and it's a Regency Romance, just to warn everyone. "

Congrats on the editing job. And also congrats on your monogamous dashing and debonaire flirt-friend. :)

hugs & my wife sends a kiss, Colt


message 4422: by Preston, Moderator (last edited Jun 19, 2013 01:35PM) (new)

Preston | 20148 comments JustJen wrote: "I could care less if you were Scooby Doo..."

Oh but that would be fun. I wanna be Scooby! (He's straight too isn't he? :)

Now after coming out straight to a group of not particularly happy 160+ members I know why coming out feels so liberating. >< grin ><


message 4423: by Lori S. (new)

Lori S. (fuzzipueo) | 2809 comments ComplaintDepartment wrote: "Consider this my Coming Out Party as I reveal my Straight Pride.

Still, the guys won't like me because I didn't have their experiences growing up straight I was never bullied (never was a bully though) or discriminated against in any way especially not by all the girls :)

The women won't like me because I'm not M/M romance material and don't even read those books. And being deliriously happily married to my pretty gal I have found is a liability because people aren't supposed to really love only their wife.

Hugs, Colt"


It's nice to meet you Colt.

I would post a not so photogenic picture of myself, but I don't have one here right at the moment and Paul McGann is so much nicer to look at anyway. ;op


message 4424: by Kim (new)

Kim Alan (KimPossum) Aw, man, Colt. Now I'm all worried that you're using your real name and real picture and you're all young and adorable (as is your wife) and you're going to end up with some creepy internet stalker after you...

Sorry. Mom genes kick in now and then completely against my will.

Anyway -- welcome, and thank you.


message 4425: by Lori S. (new)

Lori S. (fuzzipueo) | 2809 comments Wendy wrote: "I've just been given my first assignment and it's a Regency Romance, just to warn everyone."

Congratulations on the job!


message 4426: by Preston, Moderator (new)

Preston | 20148 comments Kim wrote: "Aw, man, Colt. Now I'm all worried that you're using your real name and real picture and you're all young and adorable (as is your wife) and you're going to end up with some creepy internet stalker after you..."

Stalkers?!?! I guess we better not consider having a baby then huh?

Thanks Mom :)


message 4427: by Jerry (new)

Jerry I would like to complain that I don't think the Lucas that friended me would put a straight guy in charge of a group he started with online friends that like MM. Assuming there was a real Lucas in the first place, he was all about men writing stories about men who love men. How would a straight guy with no experience, nor it appears desire to gain experience, possibly be appropriate for a group of MM lovers?
Cute as you may be, what are you doing here? I don't hold a grudge against straight people, but aren't the members here all because we read and enjoy MM? If you don't have an interest in it, WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE and why weren't you honest from the start?
Are we being DUPED AGAIN?


Ije the Devourer of Books | 14524 comments ComplaintDepartment wrote: "Things that are obvious:

Only Rodger Kean sent me a PM. Thanks Roger. Nice photo. So other than that I feel very unwelcome.

The idea that I don't exist, I am somebody in the group with a new name..."


Hello Colt

It is nice to be able to put a name and face to the moderator. I dont think your sexuality or reading choices exclude you in any way. I might read gay romances but I also read graphic novels, theology, ethics, manga, urban fantasy, murder mysteries, African writers and lots of other genres.

I am straight and divorced, and I read books with straight people in them although I must say that most of the time these straight people are doing weird things like slaying vampires.

So I have no problems with you being our moderator, welcome to the group and thanks for agreeing to be the moderator.


message 4429: by Roger (new)

Roger Kean | 17278 comments Sorry, this is Zack speaking from Roger's I-pad.


message 4430: by Preston, Moderator (last edited Jun 19, 2013 02:08PM) (new)

Preston | 20148 comments Lori wrote: "I would post a not so photogenic picture of myself, but I don't have one here right at the moment and Paul McGann is so much nicer to look at anyway. ;op "

I read everything you wrote… on the Complaint Department messages and you sound very beautiful, smart and wise to me.

Sorry I'm not really into Paul McGann or any other males so your much more interesting than he is.
>< smiling ><


message 4431: by Goesta (last edited Jun 19, 2013 02:19PM) (new)

Goesta If that's put the finger on it, I'm with Roger/Zack. Truly.


message 4432: by Roger (new)

Roger Kean | 17278 comments I sit here listening to BBC Radio 2 playing The Smiths "I'm So Sorry…"

Song of my life, even though I'm so loved.


message 4433: by Gabbo (new)

Gabbo Parra (lordgabux) | 559 comments Damnit, now we are not gonna be able to call him Sweet Chunky Cheeks. (there's nothing chunky there).

Hoping that Colt has decided to stay and moderate us, I grumpily and bemoaningly welcome him to our humble complaining abode.

Now we don't care what you like in your bed, that is your business. I think with the departure of Saint Lucas of the WashboardAbs the key word was closure. Usually people only disappear like that when something terribly wrong happened to them. I feel that was the major concern. After that comes betrayal because one might feel like WTF he could have said --at least-- Die Complainers Die, and then put his mind (and statuesque body) somewhere else.

but now I'm gonna tell you the truth about Our little Lucas disappearance.

Monkey took them (after chloroform the hell out of them) to a paradise island where they will live forever beautiful and unable to age until the end of time or a meteorite hits Earth (whichever happens first) so we can all continue life happily and embracing Colt and his beautiful wife.


message 4434: by Roger (new)

Roger Kean | 17278 comments Sorry. I give up. Truly, deeply sorry.


message 4435: by Roger (new)

Roger Kean | 17278 comments And yet, as the person once called "a true gentleman," my email's always there, as ever. Resistance may be fewtle, but live long and prosper.


message 4436: by Zack (new)

Zack Zack | 117 comments The complaints go on and on and on… and the entire thing has lost all meaning. I wonder what B of the cute abs and pretty P are thinking now?


message 4437: by Preston, Moderator (new)

Preston | 20148 comments Gabbo wrote: "Monkey took them (after chloroform the hell out of them) to a paradise island where they will live forever beautiful and unable to age until the end of time or a meteorite hits Earth (whichever happens first) so we can all continue life happily and embracing Colt and his beautiful wife."

Thanks guy. You should write in the Everwending Stories postings. You're a master of that kind of perverse fairytale. Not that we want to interrupt your serious work as a writer but those Everwendings sagas need a few meteorites hitting Earth and monkeys with chloroform. Wild, fun stuff.

Appreciate your support Gabbo!
>< manly chest bump ><
Colt


message 4438: by Zack (new)

Zack Zack | 117 comments Colter Vidor, are you the grandson of the great King Vidor? Please tell…


message 4439: by Gabbo (new)

Gabbo Parra (lordgabux) | 559 comments I bemoan. As much as the purpose of CD is to complain, we need to stop grumbling about Departed Lucas. Done and Gone. Let's pursue other matters to complain, it's getting old and it's not funny anymore.

Monkey gave you your happy ending leave it like that and come back to the funny complaining realm that we used to have here.

@Zack. Thank you for your support, and I don't feel condescended (if that's even a word, but you know what I mean). Let's see the things the way they are: If that person who's not here and doesn't need to be named anymore (PWNHADNTBNA) said something like that it would have been all fun and games. Why feel different about Colt?

If he wants to step down, that's up to him but for the sake of the greater good (we're not supposed to swear here right?) leave the kid the hell alone.

In the words of the Great Evita: Move on, no one can go back to the past but we can always go forward.

Nah Evita didn't say that I read it somewhere else but it's absolutely applicable.

Thank you, Uncle Zack!


message 4440: by Preston, Moderator (new)

Preston | 20148 comments Zack wrote: "Temp Mod, that's condescending toward Gabbo…"

Why do you consider your civil partner Roger a lesser writer because he contributes to the two Everwending stories and "Story that Ends and Begins Again" almost every day and sometimes several times a day?

Why do you continue to flaunt the rules? They say you cannot criticize another member or the moderator.


message 4441: by Kim (new)

Kim Alan (KimPossum) Wendy wrote: "This is still the complaints department, correct? I would like to lament the fact that those once thought of as friends seem to be suffering from an egregious ailment somewhat akin to the hindermen..."

It pains me to admit that I'm not smart enough to figure out this comment... Goesta? Translation, please? *snort* I think I'm hilarious. (But I seriously don't get it.)


message 4442: by Gabbo (new)

Gabbo Parra (lordgabux) | 559 comments With bewailing hands in the air, I rise a stink because the one thanking Zack was Monkey. And I guess my little pet was thanking him for defending me, even though it wasn't necessary, Monkey appreciated the effort.

Let's all be cute complainers again and leave the last 48 hours behind us. *a wink and a pretty please*


message 4443: by Lori S. (last edited Jun 19, 2013 10:22PM) (new)

Lori S. (fuzzipueo) | 2809 comments Grumpily, I, after watching Larry the Cable Guy, wonder why anyone would want to blow up anvils! I mean really, is life that boring? >snerk<

[Edited to add]
Upon rewatching: it turns out what they're doing is shooting anvils - the higher the better. >shakes head - what people do to pass the time (like I should talk ... :oD)


message 4444: by Preston, Moderator (last edited Jun 20, 2013 04:39AM) (new)

Preston | 20148 comments


NEW POLL: WHAT SPICE APPEALS TO YOU BEST AT THE MOMENT". (It's qualified with "right at this moment" since most all them are appealing at other moments in time.) It is at this link:
http://www.goodreads.com/poll/list/95...




message 4445: by Lori S. (new)

Lori S. (fuzzipueo) | 2809 comments A picture of me - as I said, Paul McGann is much better looking. =op


message 4446: by Averin (new)

Averin | 1962 comments Colton wrote: "I am complaining that I finally competed my full profile and now nobody cares."

The first answer I tried for the challenge question was 'please.' Next came 'not,' as if, perhaps it was a secret fill in the blank, grammatically correct question. Lastly, I tried 'yes, ' not correct, but again, maybe this was an undercover op.


message 4447: by justanya (last edited Jun 19, 2013 09:33PM) (new)

justanya I'm saddened that I disappear for a week and everything is so different we have a new moderator (Hello Colton!) but I'm a bit worried about the things I'm reading while skimming this thread.
Hopefully next week everything will be calm down and sorted out :(


message 4448: by Preston, Moderator (new)

Preston | 20148 comments Lori wrote: "A picture of me - as I said, Paul McGann is much better looking. =op"

Not to me Lori! You look grand and glorious to me. McGann loses out any day in my choice of photos you win.


message 4449: by Averin (new)

Averin | 1962 comments Lori wrote: "A picture of me - as I said, Paul McGann is much better looking. =op"

You look fine; I however shall continue with my fruit.


Ije the Devourer of Books | 14524 comments Anya wrote: "I'm saddened that I disappear for a week and everything is so different we have a new moderator (Hello Colton!) but I'm a bit worried about the things I'm reading while skimming this thread.
Hopefu..."


Yes let's complain about something else. Maybe tennis? Or tennis players?

http://metro.co.uk/2013/06/17/gallery...


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