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message 3901: by Averin (new)

Averin | 1962 comments For Lori:




message 3902: by Goesta (new)

Goesta Not my cats, obviously.
This is how they would approach exercise:

Step 1.

Step 2.



message 3903: by George (new)

George Seaton (georgeseaton) Lucas wrote: "George wrote: "Lucas wrote: "I would post a pic of Sweet Sarah, but, alas, I know not how to do it here. Always, hugs, kisses."

Hello again George,

In order to post an image here it must be first..."



Certainly, Shy is a good deal more photogenic than I. Thank you, Lucas, for sharing this. I didn't expect to be exposed herein, albeit via an image I cherish. And the link to my little "problem horse" vid is appreciated. I hadn't watched it in a while, and it did bring back some wonderful memories. Let me try to insert a pic of Sarah Mae Seaton.


message 3904: by Tj (new)

Tj (bluesmokey) | 632 comments George, she is beautiful!


message 3905: by Goesta (new)

Goesta I am annoyingly moved by George's amazing and beautiful companions. Wretched old putty heart, this.


message 3906: by Averin (new)

Averin | 1962 comments Goesta wrote: "Averin wrote: "I can handle 20 pages of sex if you've actually got a story to go with it. "

It's not that you did something terrible and they're making you read O&W again for punishment, I hope. I..."


No it's not yours, that doesn't even describe Oil & Water. I'm putting it aside, for a bit. Sometimes they just strike me wrong; sometimes, they are.


message 3907: by Macky (new)

Macky (mactut) George wrote: "Lucas wrote: "George wrote: "Lucas wrote: "I would post a pic of Sweet Sarah, but, alas, I know not how to do it here. Always, hugs, kisses."

Hello again George,

In order to post an image here it..."


Oh George she is gorgeous and I'm grumpy because I want one exactly like her! I know you won't be giving her up! Shy is awesome as well . Lucky you. :)


message 3908: by [deleted user] (new)

She is beautiful and gorgeous George :-)


message 3909: by Wendy (new)

Wendy Danni wrote: "Lucas wrote: "Their position is now "The bill will now go into committee where bishops — who hold 26 seats in the upper chamber — will attempt to insert amendments to add protections for teachers o..."

One thing that's a little frightening here is how many parents object to the 'godless' curriculum and pull their children out of public school to homeschool. They don't have to use an approved curriculum--they can use curriculums designed entirely by christian publishing companies that fit their beliefs, so the children never learn another point of view. And it's all completely legal, as long as the children are being home schooled and are registered with their districts.


message 3910: by Wendy (new)

Wendy Macky wrote: "How can this pile of white... ' things' be classed as edible sustenance? Just wrong!
"


Popcorn is white...until you put all the butter on it. LOL


message 3911: by Goesta (new)

Goesta Wendy wrote: "Macky wrote: "How can this pile of white... ' things' be classed as edible sustenance? Just wrong!
"

Popcorn is white...until you put all the butter on it. LOL"


Popcorn is used as home insulation. Terry Pratchett has an apt way of retelling the invention thereof, which I am too lazy to cite.


message 3912: by Goesta (new)

Goesta ☃۝~Ebullient Damsel ~۝☃ wrote: "Periods are bitches."

See? The new members still talk about literature. I had a long discussion with some editors about commas v periods recently. I share Damsel's pain.


message 3913: by Jerry (new)

Jerry George wrote: "Lucas wrote: "George wrote: "Lucas wrote: "I would post a pic of Sweet Sarah, but, alas, I know not how to do it here. Always, hugs, kisses."

Hello again George,

In order to post an image here it..."

Beautiful!


message 3914: by Averin (new)

Averin | 1962 comments Wendy wrote: "Danni wrote: "Lucas wrote: "Their position is now "The bill will now go into committee where bishops — who hold 26 seats in the upper chamber — will attempt to insert amendments to add protections ..."

My community college's library was a joint venture with the county library, a surprisingly sensible idea. But every time I'd see (almost always mothers) 'homeschooling' their kids I'd think, yeah, this way they don't learn how to work with others, respect other people's ideas, value that other people have values.

And then there is the massive Bush-era taxpayer ripoff that are charter schools. Publicly-paid for, underperforming, private enclaves so some people's kids don't attend school with the 'wrong' sorts.


message 3915: by Averin (new)

Averin | 1962 comments Goesta wrote: "☃۝~Ebullient Damsel ~۝☃ wrote: "Periods are bitches."

See? The new members still talk about literature. I had a long discussion with some editors about commas v periods recently. I share Damsel's ..."


It Oil & Water looks much better, now, visually speaking.


message 3916: by Wendy (new)

Wendy Danni wrote: "In all honesty Goesta, I work with primary age children so for a lot of them the question of how many pencils they can fit up one nostril is probably a more interesting topic than the question of m..."

My question is, will it be on the test? Everything is driven by teaching to the test anymore. I was a 1:1 with a fourth grade girl once, in a regular ed class. They got to math, and had just had a test, which almost the whole class had failed. The teacher decided to take an extra day, a precious commodity these days, and have everyone redo the test together in the classroom. They did, and at the end, she asked how many students understood it better now. About four children raised their hands. She had a look of utter defeat in her eyes, but said they had to move on to keep on with the schedule or they wouldn't cover enough for the test.

By trying to make children reach a certain level at the end of each grade, more and more of them are being left behind, and parents already expect teachers to teach their children to behave, because apparently some parents aren't doing that anymore at home, or teaching values. Some parents seem to think it's the teacher's responsibility, in six or seven hours, to teach their children everything.

I wouldn't comment on this, except I've worked in public schools, and this is truly the conversations that go on in the staff lounge. Working in life skills, we got other equally impossible tasks. Teaching a child who wouldn't sit for longer than 3 seconds to read, for example. We'd spend the whole year trying to teach the child to sit still, and if we got up to six seconds by the end of the year, it was an accomplishment. Usually we could manage at least 30 seconds, more if distracted by something they were interested in.

Education is so impossibly messed up right now. I want to know how China, with its Tiger moms and absolute strictness, and Finland, with the completely opposite approach, have the two most successful groups of students and educational systems. Because we're doing something wrong here. And it's frustrating for people like Danni and, well, I used to, who work with these kiddos and they come to school hungry, tired, not at all prepared to learn and teachers are expected to work miracles. Then we see bumperstickers that say, "Those who can't teach," or articles in the editorial section complaining about how much teachers get paid. Yep, that's the reason people go into teaching, for the fame and glory. Ugh.

I have to ask, though, Danni, are they using the big primary pencils or the regularly sized pencils?


message 3917: by Tj (new)

Tj (bluesmokey) | 632 comments I must frustratingly agree with you Wendy. I have 3 siblings and two in-laws who work with the public school system. It's so frustrating for the teachers. They actually told my sister when she started teaching the average career for elementary school teachers was 5 years. It is a difficult and unrecognized career choice.


message 3918: by Goesta (new)

Goesta Well, I was going to write something touching and insightful about education, but instead I must huff about the fact that it is now 00:35 here and Gabbo's Immaterial by Gabbo De La Parra still costs around 4 Euro. Also, I can't stop staring at the cover of The Stallion & the Dragon (Spaniards # 2) by Gabbo De La Parra which is being recommended as an alternative. I'm not generally into voluptuously muscled, artfully trimmed hairy men. Usually. Something in the water, must be, happen to be writing about one (slightly more fleshy, but same general design) as well. So I guess really I'm complaining about suddenly annoyingly attractive butch men. And about having to wait, presumably, until the rest of the world catches up to June 9th.

June 9th, the day Gabbo de la Parra's Immaterial by Gabbo De La Parra , in case you missed the announcement, is available for free at amazon world-wide.

Harrumph.


message 3919: by Tj (new)

Tj (bluesmokey) | 632 comments My husband has gone around the bend. Ever since he found out about the grandbaby and daughter in law going with us, he has been super excited. I know doesn't sound so bad, but he keeps coming up with more he wants to do or see. Carlsbad Canyon, Royal Gorge, Yellowstone, Mount Rushmore and Dodge City are all on the list along with my grandmother's in Nebraska. 18 days is what we are working with and he wants to make sure we do lots. I think he is going to accomplish that!


message 3920: by Macky (last edited Jun 08, 2013 03:56PM) (new)

Macky (mactut) Oh no. How annoying that means we'll all have to download Gabbos amazeballs silly book. I say grab it quick don't bother. If you do you could read it and eat Wendy's white buttered popcorn which annoyingly is far better than yucky white butter beans! Tsk tsk I suppose I must drag myself over to Amazon now ... ( sigh ) grumpy thank you Mr G!


message 3921: by [deleted user] (new)

George wrote: "Lucas wrote: "George wrote: "Lucas wrote: "I would post a pic of Sweet Sarah, but, alas, I know not how to do it here...Let me try to insert a pic of Sarah Mae Seaton."

I must heartily irritatingly thank you my friend and highly acclaimed writer George Seaton author of the greatly admired and popular Big Diehl: The Road Home for posting a photo of the alluring eyed Sweet Sarah Seaton.

I'm so taken by Sarah Mae that I now long for stories and more photo's of the entrancing canine member of your family. She's a swell looking gal and I'm sure a great pal too.

Having been so entertained by your reading of the Short Story Audiobook of your horse Shy (see: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WunGhT...) I now long for lots of pics of the canine member of the family with some commentary by you. However just seeing the one photo of Sarah was a wondrous treat and I very much appreciate your generosity in sharing her with us here in the Complaint Department where hugs and kisses are mandatory and quite proper as well as sometimes sincere. —xxx ooo Lucas


message 3922: by [deleted user] (last edited Jun 09, 2013 11:25AM) (new)


Goesta wrote: "I'm discombobbled why everyone seems to be referring to this gentleman."

Goesta baby!

And well you should bediscombobbled at dawn by the lord high executioner for posting the pimply faced kid photo of Steve Guttenberg when he looks so much more cute um, er…distinguished today.




message 3923: by Wendy (new)

Wendy Macky wrote: "Roger wrote: "I'd hate to think I'd driven you to reading my delicious and entirely butter been free paltry tale of footballers, Macky. But if it's cricketers you're after, there is a match in A Li..."

Crickets are good luck. You shouldn't step on them.

(giggling)


message 3924: by Wendy (new)

Wendy George wrote: "Lucas wrote: "George wrote: "Lucas wrote: "I would post a pic of Sweet Sarah, but, alas, I know not how to do it here. Always, hugs, kisses."

Hello again George,

In order to post an image here it..."


She is beautiful. I have to complain about the fact that animals are so photogenic.


message 3925: by George (new)

George Seaton (georgeseaton) Tj wrote: "My husband has gone around the bend. Ever since he found out about the grandbaby and daughter in law going with us, he has been super excited. I know doesn't sound so bad, but he keeps coming up ..."

Oh, you all should go 'round the bend... Great Sand Dunes, Carlsbad, Royal Gorge, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, and on and on because there is a lot to go 'round the bend for, here upon and about this wonderful country bordered by the Rockies on one side and the Great Plains on the other...


message 3926: by Tj (new)

Tj (bluesmokey) | 632 comments Oh, George, if hubby had the time. Unfortunately we have to be at my grandmother's on the 22nd and stay there through the 25th so it narrows our time frame. Hubby says next time...so many more sites on his list;) You are so right though it is gorgeous country.


message 3927: by Wendy (new)

Wendy Goesta wrote: "Well, I was going to write something touching and insightful about education, but instead I must huff about the fact that it is now 00:35 here and Gabbo's Immaterial by Gabbo De La Parra still cost..."

Well, it's only two more hours east coast time. But I am shocked and horrified to find you distracted by fleshly delights when you are always such a paragon of philosophical insight! :-) Actually, this is the first time I think I've dared write anything to you because it is something I can participate in. I agree with you on the somewhat hairy, perfectly sculpted man. Do you think we can work the golden ratio into this somehow? Nah. Why bother.

I have to admit that don't have experience with chests like that in real life, but it seems like they would feel odd. Sort of...bumpy. I mean, definition is one thing. Okay, I take that back. After another look he isn't so bumpy after all. LOL.

I have to confess that I overuse commas and regularly abuse em-dashes.

In answer to Ebullient Damsel's post, I would have to agree, and wonder why it's a period, which goes at the end, when it's a period the whole way through. Unless you really are talking about periods, not periods, in which case once again I have filled my quota for the day of saying ridiculous things. If defined grammatically, it seems it would start with a quotation mark, an ellipses, some exclamation points, Advil, please, eventually more ellipses, then the period and another quotation mark just to tie things up. Okay. I like that even if it had nothing to do with your statement, E.D. And I have to add that I adore hate those little creatures around your name.


message 3928: by Averin (new)

Averin | 1962 comments Content warning: banking terminology may make eyeballs bleed

Looked at the group bookshelf for the first time, has anyone else? I have two successful complaints to report: I bought some Santitas Salzonadas, they were horrible, tasted like onion salt and nothing else and onion salt wasn't even listed as an ingredient. I called in a complaint to Frito-Lay and in less than a week, received a coupon for a free bag and another for $1 off.

The second one took much longer, indeed I fear typing it out as this might jinx my resolution. On May 16, DH deposited two checks from his previous employer, one for payroll, the other unused vacation. The bank, who shall remain nameless in Manhattan, reversed one of these deposits. We asked why (this took several phone calls, with varying unsatisfactory answers). The bank said they sent the check back. Well not the check but a legal copy. Last week, I was told they sent it to Texas. This week I was told it was sent to California. I said that I've got a current forwarding order that doesn't expire until Sept. Where is it? The girl told me she'd call back. Two days later, no call. Yesterday, I went through it all over again. This time, I was put through to someone who promised me a temporary credit within twelve hours. The deposit went through in three.

Persistence has its rewards.


message 3929: by Lori S. (new)

Lori S. (fuzzipueo) | 2809 comments Averin wrote: "Content warning: banking terminology may make eyeballs bleed

Looked at the group bookshelf for the first time, has anyone else?"


I just looked and LOL (the last time I looked, there wasn't anything there).


message 3930: by [deleted user] (new)

Averin wrote: "Looked at the group bookshelf for the first time, has anyone else? I have two successful complaints to report: I bought some Santitas S..."

Grudgingly and grumpily I opine I'm pretty sure you are the only person to look at the Complaint Department bookshelves or at least the only one to take them seriously.


message 3931: by [deleted user] (new)

I need to complain that I love Neil Plakcy's Mahu books and his first person POV character Kimo so much I am now reading number 5 this week and have busted the book budget. My eyes are weak and blurred, but happy.

Also, I love butter beans. If you cook them (or anything) with salt pork and onions they are delicious.


Ije the Devourer of Books | 14524 comments I don't like butter beans but I do love Kimo and I have the latest story Natural Predators mellowing away in my to be read pile, waiting for the perfect reading time. One of my favourite series :)


message 3933: by [deleted user] (new)

Ije the TweetAway Queen wrote: "I don't like butter beans but I do love Kimo and I have the latest story Natural Predators mellowing away in my to be read pile, waiting for the perfect reading time. One of my favourite series :)"

I'm about to start Zero Break!


Ije the Devourer of Books | 14524 comments Don't you just love the setting? I have been to Hawaii and the series takes me back there. I want to go back, maybe next year. I took my son there when I was going through my divorce. He was 10 and the sun, the sea and the beautiful scenery were really healing for both of us. I also love the family relationships that Kimo has with his brothers.
Such a great series


message 3935: by Macky (new)

Macky (mactut) Oh no how aggravating a series I haven't read but now will have to add to my list because it sounds so amazing boring!!! Sarah how can you make those white things sound appetising by just saying salt pork and onions? I'm in awe because you made my mouth water and I hate them! Wendy you little Giggler you! I now have some more information on Crickets I didn't have before. I shall amaze people with my new found knowledge and never step on one... Ever!


message 3936: by Goesta (new)

Goesta After a sleepless night of tossing etc. (which dear Gabbo is welcome to interpret as the impatient frustration of waiting) I've reluctantly and with an appropriately whingy lack of fanfare snagged Immaterial from amazon.de for free.


message 3937: by [deleted user] (last edited Jun 09, 2013 03:13AM) (new)

I am angry and annoyed that the last pain pill will be taken at 4 o'clock at night if I want to avoid the unbearable pain and now the clock is set to wake me at this miserable time. 

I really will be happy to begin biological medicin and take the needle with the painfree miracle, then I can sleep good again and get sleep without being awakened in the middle of the night *grumble*

I really wish to be painfree and have more energy the whole day.


message 3938: by Macky (last edited Jun 09, 2013 03:44AM) (new)

Macky (mactut) I'm very disgruntled this morning because as of yet Gabbos book isn't available on Amazon UK. Grrrrrr! Lucky Goesta.

@Helle... You need that biological medicine ASAP. I hope its soon sweetie. I don't like you being in Pain. Big hugs and more Grrrrrr's. :( <3xxx


message 3939: by Goesta (last edited Jun 09, 2013 04:05AM) (new)

Goesta Macky wrote: "I'm very disgruntled this morning because as of yet Gabbos book isn't available on Amazon UK. Grrrrrr! Lucky Goesta.

@Helle... You need that biological medicine ASAP. I hope its soon sweetie. I d..."


Dear Helle, I'm keeping fingers and toes crossed it happens real soon. I recently seem to have a sleepless hole between 3-4am, but of course nothing to do with pain & medication schedule, just wonky biorhythm. I can relate to how that screws up your day, though.

@Macky, heehee how frustrating for you. Hope you've hatched an evil plot to hold the warrior queen's other breast ransom until you get it. You could hide it in stuffed kitty.


message 3940: by [deleted user] (new)

Goesta wrote: "Macky wrote: "I'm very disgruntled this morning because as of yet Gabbos book isn't available on Amazon UK. Grrrrrr! Lucky Goesta.

@Helle... You need that biological medicine ASAP. I hope its soo..."


Macky wrote: "I'm very disgruntled this morning because as of yet Gabbos book isn't available on Amazon UK. Grrrrrr! Lucky Goesta.

@Helle... You need that biological medicine ASAP. I hope its soon sweetie. I d..."


Thank you Macky and Goesta for your sweet and kind words that means a lot to me, thank you for your support xxx <3 A lot of hugs and kisses

@Goesta it also annoying for you to wake up at this time, wonky biorhythm are not funny and can make one very tired :-(

@Macky good luck with Gabbo's book to been published in UK Amazon :-)


message 3941: by Roger (new)

Roger Kean | 17278 comments Macky wrote: "I'm very disgruntled this morning because as of yet Gabbos book isn't available on Amazon UK. Grrrrrr! Lucky Goesta...."

Tis now! Got it.


message 3942: by Macky (new)

Macky (mactut) Roger wrote: "Macky wrote: "I'm very disgruntled this morning because as of yet Gabbos book isn't available on Amazon UK. Grrrrrr! Lucky Goesta...."

Tis now! Got it."


Thank you kind grumpy sir.... So do I now.


message 3943: by Averin (new)

Averin | 1962 comments Me too, thanks!


message 3944: by Goesta (new)

Goesta I grumpily see a complaint dept. group read in the near future. Never been subjected to one of those. There are probably *grumble* rules and stuff.


message 3945: by Gabbo (new)

Gabbo Parra (lordgabux) | 559 comments Yay, I mean double harrumph to all complainers. I've been tweeting away, facebooking away, and everything else away. At 7:49 am (USA Central time) IMMATERIAL is free wherever Amazon Kindle is available. My favorite is Japan where it says ¥0, hahahahaha.


Ije the Devourer of Books | 14524 comments Gabbo wrote: "Yay, I mean double harrumph to all complainers. I've been tweeting away, facebooking away, and everything else away. At 7:49 am (USA Central time) IMMATERIAL is free wherever Amazon Kindle is avai..."

I have it too Gabbo thank you xxx


message 3948: by [deleted user] (new)

The Arizona Diamondbacks [baseball team] drafted Arizona State outfielder Cory Hahn in the 34th round, a classy move by the organization to honor the paralyzed former Sun Devils and Mater Dei High player who when still playing professionally wore the number 34 on his uniform.

Hahn, a member of USA Baseball’s 18U national team, is a C5 quadriplegic, becoming paralyzed from the chest down being injured in a slide at second base in a February 2011 game against New Mexico. He was just a week into his freshman season for the Sun Devils when he was injured.

Choosing Hahn as a Diamondback player makes him officially a professional baseball player again despite his paralysis. This was a very classy and touching move for the team and for Cory Hahn.


message 3949: by Averin (new)

Averin | 1962 comments Lucas wrote: "The Arizona Diamondbacks [baseball team] drafted Arizona State outfielder Cory Hahn in the 34th round, a classy move by the organization to honor the paralyzed former Sun Devils and Mater Dei High ..."

Very cool.


message 3950: by Goesta (last edited Jun 09, 2013 09:34AM) (new)

Goesta Averin wrote: "This is happening just north of me. "

Oh yeah, that's really going to make the neighbourhood safe. Brilliant. But brings home why there are so many fundamentalist religious nuts in America. If they took a more enlightened view to textual interpretation, they might have to reflect on the original purpose and context of the 2nd Amendment and re-amend it.


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