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message 6351: by Roger (new)


message 6352: by Wren (last edited Nov 19, 2015 03:46AM) (new)

Wren  (wrenreaders) | 339 comments I wanna complain that I have a presentation in front of the class today and I have an anxiety disorder so through high school I was able to get an individual education plan outlining accommodations like doing presentations at lunch in front of the teacher and I would be able to get one here too but I wasn't able to get to the stupid doctor to get a note in time because apparently the fact I had one in high school isnt enough to make me a new one here.


message 6353: by Monika (new)

Monika | 3337 comments Oh God, how I hated presentations in school. I do not envy you *pat,pat*
What worked for me quite well:
-if it was strictly oral presentation then I looked at the teacher or at one of my friends and only at them
-if it was a presentation where I had things to show, e.g very popular now power point presentations, I looked at the screen and not at people

Good luck!:)


message 6354: by Roger (last edited Nov 19, 2015 06:53AM) (new)

Roger Kean | 17278 comments I was traumatized about presentations when I was only 9 years old. My school had a "serious" debate every term and every boy had to enter the debate with a For or Against argument on the chosen topic. I had no idea what that was and worried myself half sick as to what I should say when it came to my turn to stand up and orate. And then I had a brainwave (we had been allowed to watch the headmaster's TV to see the BBC documentary about Winston Churchill's war), so when it came to my turn, I stood up and hesitantly said: "I think the world would have been a much better place if Adolf Hitler had never existed."

There was a shocked silence as 70 pairs of incredulous eyes glared at me with that "who the heck is this stupid prick?" look.

As it turned out, the debate was about whether the school should vote for Nixon or Kennedy in the forthcoming US presidential election – so that dates me!


message 6355: by Lori S. (last edited Nov 19, 2015 07:15AM) (new)

Lori S. (fuzzipueo) | 2809 comments Wren wrote: "I wanna complain that I have a presentation in front of the class today and I have an anxiety disorder so through high school I was able to get an individual education plan outlining accommodations..."

You have my sympathies Wren. I hate giving presentations. Monika's idea for just looking at the teacher or a friend sounds like a good one. Just pretend it's just you and that person in the room.

@Roger: your point is valid! Even during the Nixon-Kennedy run off. LOL


message 6356: by Wren (new)

Wren  (wrenreaders) | 339 comments It went well, I just looked from the board where the slide show was to over the students head's when it was my turn to speak. Had a panic attack but I did well!


message 6357: by Monika (last edited Nov 19, 2015 02:18PM) (new)

Monika | 3337 comments That's great :D




message 6358: by Lori S. (new)

Lori S. (fuzzipueo) | 2809 comments Wren wrote: "It went well, I just looked from the board where the slide show was to over the students head's when it was my turn to speak. Had a panic attack but I did well!"

Yay! Glad to hear you survived. Give yourself a treat! :D


message 6359: by Rick (new)

Rick | 15794 comments Roger wrote: "... I stood up and hesitantly said: "I think the world would have been a much better place if Adolf Hitler had never existed." ... As it turned out, the debate was about whether the school should vote for Nixon or Kennedy in the forthcoming US presidential election – so that dates me!"

Clearly those idiots weren't smart enough to realize your clever way of comparing Nixon's administrative policies with the highly efficient, yet hopelessly inhumane policies of Nazi Germany. Oh, you clever, clever boy.
;)


message 6360: by Rick (new)

Rick | 15794 comments Wren wrote: "It went well, I just looked from the board where the slide show was to over the students head's when it was my turn to speak. Had a panic attack but I did well!"

Congratulations Wren! You're awesome! It takes huge amounts of courage to do something that gives you panic attacks. :D


message 6361: by Wren (new)

Wren  (wrenreaders) | 339 comments thanks


message 6362: by Wren (new)

Wren  (wrenreaders) | 339 comments the room i was gonna rent just got taken by someone else. now i am back scrambling for a room and panicking. i have 9 weeks at maximum left until i have to be gone


message 6363: by Roger (new)

Roger Kean | 17278 comments Rick wrote: "Clearly those idiots weren't smart enough to realize your clever way of comparing Nixon's administrative policies with the highly efficient, yet hopelessly inhumane policies of Nazi Germany. Oh, you clever, clever boy.
;) ..."


I never thought of it like that!


message 6364: by Rick (new)

Rick | 15794 comments Wren wrote: "the room i was gonna rent just got taken by someone else. now i am back scrambling for a room and panicking. i have 9 weeks at maximum left until i have to be gone"

Isn't it awful how life alway seems to want to throw us crap all at the same time? It's hard not to think that someone's out to get us. But it's just the random chaos of reality. All we can do is keep trying. Hang in there Wren. Xoxo


message 6365: by Monika (new)

Monika | 3337 comments Wren wrote: "the room i was gonna rent just got taken by someone else. now i am back scrambling for a room and panicking. i have 9 weeks at maximum left until i have to be gone"

Ehh, well that sucks. Try to not panic. Panic won't help hon. Take some deep breaths and focus on things you have to do now. Where to look now. Remember, there are others who may help you. Have you talked to someone who might be a bit area-oriented in some housing possibilities available for you? And darling it's nine weeks and not a couple of days. You have time to look for a place without panicking.


message 6366: by Monika (new)

Monika | 3337 comments Ugh, it pisses me off that I can't really help here. I'm more of "doing" and not just "talking" kind of person :/


message 6367: by Wren (new)

Wren  (wrenreaders) | 339 comments i found a place!!!!!!!!!!!!!! its very close to my current house too.

however, now i just have to hope and wait for the quebec government to stop being lazy and actually finalize my bursary and loan. i applied last year, they lost the documents, so they put me in rejection mode, we just re-sent the documents so i am hoping they process it quickly


message 6368: by Monika (last edited Nov 21, 2015 12:02PM) (new)

Monika | 3337 comments Yay! That's so great to hear! :D
I don't know how it is with clerks in Quebec but here you have to sometimes remind them about you and your case or they getting lazy :/ so, just in case, maybe check/ask how long normally it should take them and then go few days before the date and ask if maybe it's ready.


message 6369: by Wren (new)

Wren  (wrenreaders) | 339 comments Monika wrote: "Yay! That's so great to hear! :D
I don't know how it is with clerks in Quebec but here you have to sometimes remind them about you and your case or they getting lazy :/ so, just in case, maybe chec..."


yeah i have called them about it before, and I am going to have my financial advisor at school call them this time. im already really pissed that they made a mistake first of all, but now slacking off after making that mistake is just over the limit for me. i really hope they will get it going when i call them


message 6370: by Monika (last edited Nov 21, 2015 01:59PM) (new)

Monika | 3337 comments oooh, so you have a financial advisor you can sic on clerks, how lovely
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Well, from personal experience - I'm more focused when I'm pissed so, ummm... stay pissed until it's a done deal?


message 6371: by Wren (new)

Wren  (wrenreaders) | 339 comments Monika wrote: "oooh, so you have a financial advisor you can sic on clerks, how lovely


Well, from personal experience - I'm more focused when I'm pissed so, ummm... stay pissed until it's a done deal?"


hahaha i will. im pissed all the time now lol


message 6372: by Monika (new)

Monika | 3337 comments Good, keep it that way for a while. Also from personal experience (jeeez, I feel oooold) - being always nice unfortunately does not pay off


message 6373: by Rick (new)

Rick | 15794 comments Glad you found a place Wren!
I hope you have better luck with your Financial Aid department than I did. My stuff got so screwed up one year (because I was too polite and didn't confront the discrimination I was facing) that I had to pay for 1 semester out of pocket and couldn't take classes the following semester. This was after 4 previous years of no (major) problems. I finished up with 5 consecutive semesters (2 summer sessions) in order to get out with a degree as fast as I could.


message 6374: by Wren (new)

Wren  (wrenreaders) | 339 comments Rick wrote: "Glad you found a place Wren!
I hope you have better luck with your Financial Aid department than I did. My stuff got so screwed up one year (because I was too polite and didn't confront the discri..."


wow that must've sucked. discrimination? how, if you dont mind me asking? just out of curiosity?


message 6375: by Wren (new)

Wren  (wrenreaders) | 339 comments Monika wrote: "Good, keep it that way for a while. Also from personal experience (jeeez, I feel oooold) - being always nice unfortunately does not pay off"

yeah im done being all timid over this i am going to be a lot more assertive from now on


message 6376: by Rick (new)

Rick | 15794 comments Wren wrote: "yeah im done being all timid over this i am going to be a lot more assertive from now on"

Good for you! Go get 'em Tiger! ;)


message 6377: by Rick (last edited Nov 21, 2015 03:49PM) (new)

Rick | 15794 comments Wren wrote: "wow that must've sucked. discrimination? how, if you dont mind me asking? just out of curiosity?"

I had been typing this huge response and then stopped myself and just submitted the post that I did submit.

The whole thing was such a mess and I couldn't prove anything. It appears that what I went through was similar to what other non-traditional students often go through if the university feels they aren't getting through the system quickly enough, but there was also some issues with my racial self-identification (which is also hysterically complicated and insanely trivial in so many ways - but important none-the-less). Like I said it was a mess and there wasn't anyway to prove anything: well - here goes (in a nutshell):

One year, they decided I needed to submit all this extra paperwork that I'd never been asked for before. I emailed it to them per the instructions that were sent to me. About a month later they notified me that they were still waiting for those forms. I filled them out again and mailed them in by Post instead of email. About a month later I get another notification that they needed those forms turned in. Furious, I filled in the forms AGAIN and took them into the office and left them with the person at the counter who said that this happens all the time and that they knew who to give the documents to. About a month later I, you guessed it, got another notification that they still hadn't received the forms. By this time it was the week before Thanksgiving and I was swamped with classwork and I said FRACK it, I'll deal with it after the holiday. So I went in, made an appointment and tried to explain how I'd submitted those forms THREE times and then demanded to why I even needed to do this when over the last four years I'd never had to submit anything like these forms before. They apologized and said that this happens all the time and I just needed to submit the forms. I asked why. They smiled and apologized and said that this happens all the time and I just needed to submit the forms. I asked to speak with the person in charge of financial aid so I could get a better understanding of exactly WHY these forms were required and was told... hold on to your seat... (And this is an exact quote) "Oh, she doesn't meet with students.".
O.o
You're telling me the head of the department for Student Financial Aid doesn't meet with students!!!!!! Wow, I want THAT job!
By now I'd begun to realize something wasn't kosher and I left saying I'd fill out the forms and bring them in. Of course, when I got back it was now too late to get funding for that academic year or so it was explained to me. So I was unable to enroll for classes the next semester and had to pay for the semester that was just ending completely out of pocket. I even contacted the Dean of Arts & Sciences to see if he could do anything. He told me he'd look into it, but it as it was a financial issue it would probably be out of his sphere of influence. In the end I had to take the spring semester off. That five months was a nightmare. I also lost my part-time student job at the university bookstore. Although that was a blessing in disguise because that place was a cesspool of racism, homophobia and nepotism.
When I applied for financial aid for the next year, including the summer session to make up for the semester I'd just been missing. And you want to know what? When I turned in my application forms and such WITH the extra documents that had caused ALL the trouble the previous year. The highest person of authority of the Student Financial Aid department who I was allowed to meet with basically said: Oh, we don't need those, but I can put them in your file if you want.
O.o
Honestly, I just let it go in hopes that I could get through the next two years (turned into only 1 & a half since I took two summers with of classes to speed things up) without anymore hassles. And there were no other major hassles. I even got a BETTER job tutoring subjects like Popular Culture, Film Studies, Sociology, but mostly Astronomy. And then I got an additional job working in the classroom as a supplemental instructor for Astronomy. Had I know how things were going to turn around that last year and a half, I wouldn't have pushed to get out as quickly as I did. You never can tell. ;)


message 6378: by Wren (new)

Wren  (wrenreaders) | 339 comments Rick wrote: "Wren wrote: "wow that must've sucked. discrimination? how, if you dont mind me asking? just out of curiosity?"

I had been typing this huge response and then stopped myself and just submitted the p..."


wow that is intense. i can't believe you had to re-submit the forms so many times! I'm glad it got better in the end though.


message 6379: by Rick (new)

Rick | 15794 comments Wren wrote: "wow that is intense. i can't believe you had to re-submit the forms so many times! I'm glad it got better in the end though. "

It was pretty messed up. Looking back on it now, I think because completely worthless tool of a governor, John Kasich, had cut (and continues to cut) funding for education in Ohio, the financial aid department was trying to force out students that didn't really need the money. I got caught in net since I was a non-traditional student but when I was unable to pay off the current semester and couldn't take any classes that next semester they realized they'd gone too far. And maybe my stink with the Dean brought some heat on their heads. I also know that there were more than a few upset individuals in the administration when they heard that the Head of Student Financial Services didn't meet with students. I basically stopped pushing buttons when I realized I might be working my way out of getting the degree. And then the other years would have been a complete waste. If I had some definitive proof or evidence of wrong doing, other than just stupid bureaucracy, I might have followed through on it. But the whole thing was right out of a Kafkaesque nightmare. ;)


message 6380: by Roger (last edited Nov 22, 2015 02:25AM) (new)

Roger Kean | 17278 comments I want to protest, moan on about, and generally complain that no one apart from myself and Rick is now playing the Which Book game. I give you the original premise:

Enter the names of two books using the "add book/author" (but only enter a book not an author.) It is not required but it's considered more keen and adroit if the books are related in some way (subject matter, part of the title, name of the main character or another shared characteristic.) So your game posting should look something like is:

Something Like Summer or My Summer of Wes

The next player choses one of these two books and then posts a message containing two books to chose from.


So get playing fellow Complainers…


message 6381: by Monika (last edited Nov 22, 2015 08:42AM) (new)

Monika | 3337 comments Rick wrote: "Wren wrote: "wow that must've sucked. discrimination? how, if you dont mind me asking? just out of curiosity?"

I had been typing this huge response and then stopped myself and just submitted the p..."


I forgot to ask after reading the post:
Don't you people get a confirmation paper from your unis that, yes you did give them all papers you were supposed to, signed both by you and uni's clerk, and if there is something missing then it's not your fault?
If not, then I think I will appreciate paperwork at my uni more...


message 6382: by Rick (last edited Nov 22, 2015 08:50AM) (new)

Rick | 15794 comments Monika wrote: "I had been typing this huge response and then stopped myself and just su..."

No, nothing like that at BGSU. And I did have everything filled out and submitted properly from the beginning. The additional set of forms was something that I was being singled out for. And they NEVER adequately explained why I was singled out for these forms or why I had never had to fill out those forms in previous years or why the next year they didn't need them.

Please just let this drop. I really don't want to live through all this again and have it all running around through my brain again. I never should have even brought it up. My mistake. It's over. I survived.


message 6383: by Monika (last edited Nov 22, 2015 08:53AM) (new)

Monika | 3337 comments *pat, pat* okay, okay. relax. my head hurts enough for both of us.
But it's good to be older and wiser, right? ;)


message 6384: by Rick (new)

Rick | 15794 comments Yep. As I said it was like something right out of Kafka. Horrible. Over the Thanksgiving Break I had woken up in the middle of the night with my sheets soaked and just dripping with sweat. Sometime later I realized that a lot of my motivation and belief in the system through which I was getting my higher education had snapped. It literally felt like something inside me had irreparably broken. I had planned on going overseas and teaching English, after that I couldn't even imagine being part of that system anymore.
Hrm. I guess I'm saying it's still a raw wound. Great now I'm going to have to pick at the scab (so to speak). ;)


message 6385: by Monika (new)

Monika | 3337 comments *slaps his hands* Do not pick at the scab or you'll be left with a scar :s


message 6386: by Rick (new)

Rick | 15794 comments Will they be cool like the ones I've got on my forehead that are kinda lighting bolt shaped that Harry Potter's? ;)


message 6387: by Roger (new)

Roger Kean | 17278 comments You mean like these…?




message 6388: by Rick (last edited Nov 22, 2015 10:18AM) (new)

Rick | 15794 comments Roger wrote: "You mean like these…?"

NO!!!! Not he who shall not be named!!!

Oh, wait, I'm mixing my references again. Darn.


message 6389: by Monika (last edited Nov 22, 2015 09:55AM) (new)

Monika | 3337 comments Roger wrote: "You mean like these…?

"


Lol, I don't think he will like these ones xDD

EDIT:
Yep, I was right ...


message 6390: by Rick (new)

Rick | 15794 comments shutter

Someday I'll have someone take a picture, close-up, of my scars. They do look like Potter's but they are easy to miss. Particularly with my hair hanging over them. ;)


message 6391: by Monika (new)

Monika | 3337 comments oi, you can make a close-up yourself. Just say accio camera and do it ;)


message 6392: by Rick (new)

Rick | 15794 comments Just tried it. Didn't work.

La magia está muerto


message 6393: by Wren (new)

Wren  (wrenreaders) | 339 comments ugh, people who think their right to say merry christmas is being taken away from them because signs say happy holidays'

my aunt says its all because of muslims because "most of the people who work in stores are muslims"
um only like 3.2% of the canadian population is muslim....educate yourself
and your right to say merry christmas isnt being taken away from you just because some people want to be inclusive.

i hate the world so much
and im dysphoric
why does everything trigger me
i hate it


message 6394: by Rick (new)

Rick | 15794 comments Wren wrote: "... i hate the world so much
and im dysphoric
why does everything trigger me
i hate it "


One of the people I worked with at the BGSU Bookstore was convinced, I'm not kidding about this, that the entire state of Michigan was under Sharia law. She firmly believed that if she went to Michigan she'd be attacked and likely stoned for not being covered from head to toe. I'm not kidding. She actually believed this. The Michigan border is less than 30 minutes from BGSU. That's how prevalent xenophobia and Islamophobia is in the US. And the media just ramps up the paranoia another notch every night on the "news."

It sounds to me like you've just got a strong case of rational sanity. I got read of broadcast TV and Cable in the house because the conservative crazies on the "news" were driving me insane.


message 6395: by Monika (new)

Monika | 3337 comments Rick wrote: "Just tried it. Didn't work.

La magia está muerto"


Hmmm, weird... O.o
it always works when I call accio kitty, I got some chicken for ya!


message 6396: by Wren (new)

Wren  (wrenreaders) | 339 comments Rick wrote: "Wren wrote: "... i hate the world so much
and im dysphoric
why does everything trigger me
i hate it "

One of the people I worked with at the BGSU Bookstore was convinced, I'm not kidding about thi..."



Wow. ....I have no words for that paranoia. I mean you don't have to like (a) religion(s) but don't stay uninformed and ignorant and dont be an asshole


message 6397: by Wren (new)

Wren  (wrenreaders) | 339 comments Btw you are all awesome thanks for always listening and offering help


message 6398: by Wren (new)

Wren  (wrenreaders) | 339 comments I'd like to complain that I am so pale that when my cousin was doing my make up she had to use gray powder to contour my face haha


message 6399: by Monika (new)

Monika | 3337 comments Wren wrote: "ugh, people who think their right to say merry christmas is being taken away from them because signs say happy holidays' "

Ehhh, this "war" about political correctness became so ridiculous that I stopped commenting on it because it was impossible to explain things to "those who always know better".
Wren, world is a weird and fracked up place (yes, I borrowed 'frack' from Rick ;)), get used to it -.-'


message 6400: by Monika (new)

Monika | 3337 comments Wren wrote: "I'd like to complain that I am so pale that when my cousin was doing my make up she had to use gray powder to contour my face haha"

I once dyed my hair black. Luckily it was easily washable dye because people wanted to call ambulance for me couple of times when I went into town O.o


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