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message 6151: by Roger (new)

Roger Kean | 17278 comments I'm unsure of exactly how to complain about this… perhaps some one else can?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-O80...


message 6152: by Lori S. (new)

Lori S. (fuzzipueo) | 2809 comments Well- lets start with that song ...


message 6153: by Rick (new)

Rick | 15794 comments I ... Wtf ... Roger ...

First thing in the morning, I ...

A little warning ...

Wtf?


message 6154: by Lori S. (new)

Lori S. (fuzzipueo) | 2809 comments >chuckles< Yeah, it is a bit much that early in the morning. Highly irreverent and full of black humor. I did laugh, but it was - 0.o


message 6155: by Rick (new)

Rick | 15794 comments More like

o.O or maybe O.0 or maybe o.0 (no definatedly) o.O

What I found most disturbing is that I don't think the song was originally intended as being highly irreverent. Someone else posted a video she'd made with the song and notes that it came from a cd all about praising god and her video was not meant to be irreverent.

Still I think my favorite part was the little "bombs of love" - Roger, Roger, Roger

I ... Yeah ...

Be seeing you 6)


message 6156: by Tj (new)

Tj (bluesmokey) | 632 comments Flight delays! they suck :(


message 6157: by Lori S. (last edited Jul 15, 2015 10:09AM) (new)

Lori S. (fuzzipueo) | 2809 comments Rick wrote: "What I found most disturbing is that I don't think the song was originally intended as being highly irreverent. Someone else posted a video she'd made with the song and notes that it came from a cd all about praising god and her video was not meant to be irreverent."

I know the song - it's creepy, highly repetitive, and mind numbing, no doubt meant to lull the singer into a more receptive frame of mind (yeah, I'm cynical when it comes to organized religion).

Worse yet, it becomes a earworm for me. >(


message 6158: by Lori S. (new)

Lori S. (fuzzipueo) | 2809 comments Tj wrote: "Flight delays! they suck :("

Another unjoy of mind numbing proportions. I sympathize Tj.


message 6159: by Rick (new)

Rick | 15794 comments Lori S. wrote: "Rick wrote: "Worse yet, it becomes a earworm for me."

Oh my stars & garters, you have my sympathies.


message 6160: by Rick (new)

Rick | 15794 comments Tj wrote: "Flight delays! they suck :("

I once got stuck in a little regional airport (one room, three terminals) for something like 8 hours. Watching other flights come and go.

You also have my sympathies.


message 6161: by Roger (new)

Roger Kean | 17278 comments I hate to point this out, but there are some 3,600 words of the first chapter of Mulholland Meat to read at:

http://www.cityboiz.com/a-story-of-19...

The book is due to publish in October


message 6162: by Rick (last edited Aug 04, 2015 06:05AM) (new)

Rick | 15794 comments I must complain this to have to wait until October to finish it! Oh, it reads deliciously! :)


message 6163: by Averin (new)

Averin | 1962 comments Roger wrote: "I hate to point this out, but there are some 3,600 words of the first chapter of
Mulholland Meat
to read at:

http://www.cityboiz.com/a-story-of-19...

The book is due to publish..."


Must be good as my work's porn detector is blocking it.


message 6164: by Roger (new)

Roger Kean | 17278 comments Averin wrote: "Must be good as my work's porn detector is blocking it. ..."

LOL actually the first bits are very demure(ish)


message 6165: by Roger (new)

Roger Kean | 17278 comments Rick wrote: "I must complain this to have to wait until October to finish it! Oh, it reads deliciously! :)"

This one's been real fun to create… :)


message 6166: by Lori S. (new)

Lori S. (fuzzipueo) | 2809 comments I will leave this one for you to ponder: Stonewall

It looks good, but what do the folks here think?


message 6167: by Rick (new)

Rick | 15794 comments Well, I'm not a fan of his movies - although I do love the director's cut of the original Stargate movie. He does support progressive causes and such. I'm sure I'll go see it.


message 6168: by Lori S. (new)

Lori S. (fuzzipueo) | 2809 comments Rick wrote: "Well, I'm not a fan of his movies - although I do love the director's cut of the original Stargate movie. He does support progressive causes and such. I'm sure I'll go see it."

As long as he stays away from any more Godzilla movies, I'm OK with him. :D I do look forward to Independence Day: Resurgence though.


Ije the Devourer of Books | 14524 comments It looks good. I read a really great book about Stonewall quite recently. I hope the film will reflect the real events as much as possible.


message 6170: by Rick (last edited Aug 05, 2015 11:28AM) (new)

Rick | 15794 comments Ije the Devourer of Books wrote: "It looks good. I read a really great book about Stonewall quite recently. I hope the film will reflect the real events as much as possible."

That would be nice. One of the problems I have with his movies though, is how fast and loose he is with the research done for them. So the sentiment might be there, but how much factual & historical accuracy is there might be another matter.


message 6171: by Lori S. (new)

Lori S. (fuzzipueo) | 2809 comments Rick wrote: "Ije the Devourer of Books wrote: "It looks good. I read a really great book about Stonewall quite recently. I hope the film will reflect the real events as much as possible."

That would be nice. O..."


That was one of the questions I had too. The police who went in that night weren't all that coordinated, nor did they have backup from the local PD in whose territory they were operating ... Will there be a balance of story telling there? I would love to see several sides to this story told.

I thought it was cool that the woman, the one with her hands cuffed and was yelling, who has since disappeared into history, is shown in the trailer. Nice touch that.


Ije the Devourer of Books | 14524 comments Apparently people are complaining about the historical inaccuracies. I guess it was too optimistic to think that Hollywood would portray the facts. I suppose they focused on what they think will bring in more profit.


message 6173: by Lori S. (new)

Lori S. (fuzzipueo) | 2809 comments Yeah. The complaint I saw seems to be pretty legitimate. Too much tohope for accuracy I guess. :/


message 6174: by Rick (new)

Rick | 15794 comments Well, it is Emmerich right? Sensationalism beats authenticity every time. ;)

Still, I think boycotting a film about LGBTQ history by a gay filmmaker is a bit over dramatic. Hmmm, maybe that's the point. Can anyone say publicity?


message 6175: by Lori S. (new)

Lori S. (fuzzipueo) | 2809 comments Yep. Still, the accusation I saw seemed pretty spot on. I do want to see the film though. It's a doorway to more open dialogue and that's important too.

http://www.themarysue.com/stonewall-f...


message 6176: by Rick (new)

Rick | 15794 comments That article had some very good points, that are clearly completely valid. And if the movie were a true documentary, these points would clearly need to be adressed. Yet the writer also pointed out that the film is a historical drama, focusing on a fictional character caught up in the events. Makes me think of the film The Dreamers (Bertolucci, 2003) which is set during the spring & summer of 1968 in Paris and tangentially deals with the political turmoil, but really isn't about that at all. Perhaps Emmerich just wanted to tell this story about a fictional young man who gets caught up in the events of the Stonewall Riots. Emmerich is a sensationalist filmmaker who structures his film on emotional reactions from the audience. As soon as you look beyond the emotional peaks and valleys of a film like Independence Day the narrative falls apart. Completely. We're talking plot holes the size of continents here. So I would assume (always dangerous, when I haven't seen the movie) that Emmerich is using his usual approach and trying to reach the audience emotionally rather than logically or with historical accuracy. Now, if he's deliberately altered historical events to sell his story, how different is that from say using the sinking of the Titanic to sell a reworking of Romeo & Juliet? I'm not defending Emmerich or the film, I've not seen the film and (like I said in an earlier post) I'm not a fan of his movies (other than Stargate), but I'm willing to give it a shot. Which, considering that I usually actively avoid seeing his films, is saying that I guess I'm at least hoping for something interesting. ;) hmmm, is it showing around here?


message 6177: by Lori S. (last edited Aug 07, 2015 08:11AM) (new)

Lori S. (fuzzipueo) | 2809 comments Release date is September 25, 2015. I'm assuming general release.

I agree with you on Emmerich's storytelling techniques. I love ID4, but, it was very predictable the first time I saw it and it still is, but it's great background noise when I'm reading or doing other things and I love the soundtrack. Stargate is great fun too and led to an excellent television franchise.

As for Stonewall, I can take it on the premise of a fictionalize account of the riots as seen through the eyes of a young man who is himself going through an upheaval in his life. However, I kinda have to agree with the critics who are claiming erasure of very real people who were actually there. They deserve to be acknowledged for their courage in taking action (even if it did lead to a lot of property damage ...). Big dramatic gestures are Emmerich's specialty though, so I don't really expect much in the way of introspection.


Ije the Devourer of Books | 14524 comments I would like to see it for the same reason Lori.


message 6179: by Rick (new)

Rick | 15794 comments Lori S. wrote: "Release date is September 25, 2015. I'm assuming general release."

Yeah, just looked it up. Guess I'll go see Fantastic Four instead. ;)


message 6180: by Averin (new)

Averin | 1962 comments Rick wrote: "That article had some very good points, that are clearly completely valid. And if the movie were a true documentary, these points would clearly need to be adressed. Yet the writer also pointed out ..."

I'll go for the same reason. The trouble with trying to 'interpret' Stonewall, is that like many similar events, the actors who really got things going were trans*, whose names and identities aren't always easy to identify. Earlier events such as the Compton's Cafeteria Riot in SF or Cooper's Donuts in LA, were the same: the principal instigators were actually trans* and that community tends to believe their contribution has been co-opted. And they may be right.


Ije the Devourer of Books | 14524 comments I agree Averin. I think the LGBT community and the Trans community in particular need to seize the opportunity this creates to tell the real story and initiate debates about human/civil rights. If there is enough interest in the film it will create a demand for books and documentaries etc.


message 6182: by Rick (new)

Rick | 15794 comments I agree. Boycotting the film, as I've seen some reports are advocating, would only dilute interest in the subject. If this film were a huge success, studio executives would be tripping over themselves to green light another project. And another, and another.... It is definitely a tragedy that this is not likely to be very historically accurate and it would be nice to see a big name filmmaker like Emmerich produce a compelling documentary film on the subject.


message 6183: by Eric (new)

Eric Westfall (eawestfall) | 386 comments It is really, truly, with the most profound and deepest regret that I advise you all that:



also more fully known as Mr. Felcher's Grand Emporium, or, The Adventures of a Pair of Spares in the Fine Art of Gentlemanly Portraiture has been submitted to the DRitC/Love is an Open Road editors for preparation for publication.

All 200,230 words of it.

7447 for the win!

Today's words to get it done, although "only" 199,158 words comprise the novel itself.

Look at it this way. Danni gave me 6 pictures, and I wrote 6 novellas of varying lengths, and combined the "series" into a single book.

It's well past 1:30 a.m. on 9 August 2015. Time to get some sleep.

Eric

p.s. It will certainly not surprise you to "hear" me say that I'm damned proud of this book.


message 6184: by Lori S. (new)

Lori S. (fuzzipueo) | 2809 comments Now we have to wait until the 25th for it! It's hiatus/celebration time. >sigh<


message 6185: by Eric (new)

Eric Westfall (eawestfall) | 386 comments Lori S. wrote: "Now we have to wait until the 25th for it! It's hiatus/celebration time. >sigh<"

Lori, if the "wait" you're referring to is for Emporium (my ego talking here, if it isn't) it's gonna be longer than that, since there are apparently multiple 100K+ books this time, including a 140K that I think is also in editing right now.

RRR was the last book published last year. I don't know if Emporium will be the same, but it is likely to be towards the end of the process.


message 6186: by Eric (new)

Eric Westfall (eawestfall) | 386 comments Uh, how do I phrase this delicately? I wish to complain that I have "followers" on Twitter...which is most gratifying, of course...but I've never tweeted because I don't know how. >sigh< And I would really like to say something to the nice following folks. Or folks in general. I also don't know how to use hashtags.

Is there a Twittering for Dummies out there?


message 6187: by Preston, Moderator (last edited Aug 12, 2015 05:24PM) (new)

Preston | 20148 comments Eric wrote: "Uh, how do I phrase this delicately? I wish to complain that I have "followers" on Twitter...which is most gratifying, of course...but I've never tweeted because I don't know how. >sigh< And I woul..."

Just Google the phrase 'how to tweet' and you'll find help on tweet like this one.

To tweet:
On the Twitter homepage, type your update into the Tweet box just below your name. You can also click the Tweet button to start a new tweet from any page. ...
Remember to keep your tweet at 140 characters or less. ...
Click the Tweet button when you're ready to post. ...
Your tweet appears immediately in the Timeline.

See: Twitter 101: How to Tweet - GCF Global Learning at this link:

www.gcflearnfree.org/twitter101/5GFC


message 6188: by Rick (last edited Aug 16, 2015 06:58PM) (new)

Rick | 15794 comments I always complain about that sign that seems to hover in front of my car that says "Go ahead and pull out in front of me, please." well, I really have to do something about that sign, because some idiot did just that on Friday evening while a friend and I were headed to meet some other friends for dinner. Well, things didn't go well. My friend suffered a cracked vertebra, the same one that paralyzed Christopher Reeve, she's in stable condition and needs to wear a neck brace for a couple months. Thankfully the airbags appeared to do exactly what they're supposed to do, minimize movement. I was originally release from the ER with minor contusions and a sore hand, but I got a call Saturday
saying that an actual radiologist finally looked at my xrays and they say my hand is
fractured. Need to see a specialist. So typing one handed, or one-thumbed, now. Didn't
have a good reaction to the painkillers they gave me. Par for the course with me and drugs. I've just got weird physiology I guess. Hrm, maybe I am a Martian. ;) I'm taking half a pill instead of a whole pill now. That seems to be better.

So, I'll be backing off making so many posts for awhile. At least until I get both thumbs back.

And I must complain that my thumb is probably where my fracture is. Figures. :-\


Ije the Devourer of Books | 14524 comments Hope you recover soon. :(


message 6190: by Lori S. (new)

Lori S. (fuzzipueo) | 2809 comments Rick, I hope you recover quickly!


message 6191: by Eric (new)

Eric Westfall (eawestfall) | 386 comments I wish to complain, most sincerely, about having to put my 14-year-old Doberman to sleep this morning. He was a rescue dog (a doctor owned him, who thought beating a puppy was a fine thing to do), and was with me for a bit over 12 of those 14 years.

His health had been deteriorating, but he took a sudden turn for the worse this weekend, and his quality of life would have gone downhill rapidly. So it was time.

But damn, it doesn't get any easier, each time you hold a pet, as none of ours have ever died alone.

Sorry for the downer, but I needed to say something to someone.

Eric


message 6192: by Lori S. (new)

Lori S. (fuzzipueo) | 2809 comments No, it never is easy losing a pet. They are part of the family. I'm glad you had a long time with your Doberman though. You have a lot of years to remember good stuff.


Ije the Devourer of Books | 14524 comments Sorry to hear this Eric :( Hugs from me.


message 6194: by Roger (new)

Roger Kean | 17278 comments Sorry Eric and sorry Rick. I hope the healing is quick in both cases.


message 6195: by Rick (new)

Rick | 15794 comments Eric, I'm sorry for your loss.


message 6196: by Eric (new)

Eric Westfall (eawestfall) | 386 comments Thanks, all, for your kind thoughts and words. It's greatly appreciated...er...no, I'm not allowed to say that am I? Uh...I loathe, abominate and despise kind words? Will that keep me from getting kicked out, mods? *g*


message 6197: by Rick (new)

Rick | 15794 comments Eric wrote: "Thanks, all, for your kind thoughts and words. It's greatly appreciated...er...no, I'm not allowed to say that am I? Uh...I loathe, abominate and despise kind words? Will that keep me from getting ..."

If it doesn't I'll complain.


message 6198: by Averin (new)

Averin | 1962 comments Eric wrote: "I wish to complain, most sincerely, about having to put my 14-year-old Doberman to sleep this morning. He was a rescue dog (a doctor owned him, who thought beating a puppy was a fine thing to do), ..."

So, sorry Eric. hugs.


message 6199: by Averin (new)

Averin | 1962 comments Rick wrote: "I always complain about that sign that seems to hover in front of my car that says "Go ahead and pull out in front of me, please." well, I really have to do something about that sign, because some ..."

Here's to a quick recovery to you, your friend, and the car.


message 6200: by Rick (new)

Rick | 15794 comments How can I complain with everyone wishing me wellness? I can't complain about that! Well, I can complain about not being able to complain... Yeah that'll work.

Actually, I do have another complaint: in my sleepy, insidiously complacent town we have been invaded by tractor enthusiasts as the National Tractor Pull Championship brings the crazies out of the forests and fields. For the next few days the entire city will be overwhelmed by the noise of tractors straining to pull insanely heavy loads and the fans ripping apart restaurants and bars. The only thing that makes it worse is when the 'Pullers' are here on the same weekend that parents are trying to move their kids into their college dorm rooms - oh wait, that is happening this year. So, if us natives want to maintain our lives and sanity we avoid the north side of town (particularly the northwest), the entire east side of town, all the places that serve alcohol and all restaurants and the hotels & motels and any places that sells food, beverages, dorm supplies and/or camping supplies, which includes the south edge of town and the central business, downtown areas - so yeah, pretty much just stay home. I expect to see lots of confederate flags flying by on cars, trucks and tractors this weekend. Always makes the parents feel good about leaving their little darlings here to attend college. It's only 3 days. It's only 3 days. It's only 3 days.


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