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Tj wrote: "I am a bit confused in that one clip said it would be enforced during the Olympics and the other said it wouldn't:( "
One report said the International Olympic Committee had been assured (but not in writing) Olympians wouldn't be arrested but Sports Minister Vitaly Mutko (a close friend of Putin) said the anti-gay laws would definitely be enforced at the Olympics. What does Putin say? Nothing. If they weren't going to enforce the laws at the Olympics why wouldn't Putin put that in writing to the IOC?
Which one do you trust to know the truth? Yep, I'm afraid I think the Sports Minister might have the most knowledge and influence on what they plan to do.
Some people propose that rather than boycotting the Olympics that every athlete of every nation wear a rainbow flag symbol with the thought that the Russians couldn't arrest every athlete.
I'd prefer if the International Olympics Committee (IOC) did their duty to follow the Olympic Charter which prohibits any form of discrimination.
Until the IOC penalizes Russia they are as bad as Putin.
This is just a terrible thing. I don't understand why there isn't more protest by the IOC about this. I really think if Russia doesn't give them assurance, in writing, NOW that they switch venues. I know that is huge but if the IOC doesn't stick to its own rules then they aren't trustworthy when it comes to all its rules.
Tj wrote: "This is just a terrible thing. I don't understand why there isn't more protest by the IOC about this. I really think if Russia doesn't give them assurance, in writing, NOW that they switch venues..."On the bright side Tj it ought to make your bible thumping, homophobic in-laws happy. If they love their son so much they should have gone with him and left you alone to get a break from them.
*sigh* So true:( I plan to try and stay away from them. They want to go hiking and the like. I figure I'll sit and read by the lake or go swimming. Worse case I hide out and read in the bedroom and nag my hubby about it all. If they make me miserable then he will suffer with me;) I think that will get them to leave me alone!And I haven't heard a word about them on Russia. They are still too busy complaining about the health care reform and how awful it is.
It is a fact terrible but true not every reader in the M/M Romance group or here in the Complaint Department has read Eric Alan Westfall's ebook The Song which you can read for FREE in PDF, Mobi, and ePub format at: http://www.mmromancegroup.com/?p=2856...50,418 words
Boyd wrote: "Until the IOC penalizes Russia they are as bad as Putin. ..."I agree, and already stated so a few days back (can't remember the message, and I'm too lazy this morning to backtrack!). The IOC is nothing more than a money-making clique and will do nothing to displease Russia.
Roger wrote: "...I agree, and already stated so a few days back (can't remember the message, and I'm too lazy this morning to backtrack!)...."This is the part of your previous comment I think you were referring to:
"By the same token that evil is mostly done by good men refusing to speak out, the IOC, which has enshrined in its charters equality for all regardless of race, creed, and orientation, must now withdraw the offer to Russia to hold the games.
Oh, health warning: don't hold your breath"
Roger's skepticism that the IOC will act ("don't hold your breath") is backed by several factors. The logistics of finding a country that has Olympic stadium space and athlete housing and can in less than 6 months put in all the physical sport requirements, spectator housing TV facilities and highly technical timing mechanisms and telecommunications is simply impossible.
Also the contracts that have been signed and a financial nightmare would result. It is too expensive to change venues now and would end up in costly litigation. The advertising revenues from the events is multimillion dollar business. The IOC cannot afford to cancel the games.
I don't think I'm alone in thinking that if the Games are cancelled thousands of careers and athletic endorsements would be affected. The public will wonder why we held the Olympics in Hitler's Germany but the threat of discrimination against gays in Russia would be worse than what Hitler did.
Canceling the Olympics because of small number of out and proud gay athletes would most likely result in a backlash against gays worldwide for spoiling the Olympics.
The idea of getting as many countries as possible to include rainbow flag patches on their uniforms as protest in support of gays would repudiate and embarrass Putin and his kind. Wearing the rainbow flag would be a protest in support of gays which is illegal and under current laws could be punished by jailing and deporting everyone who participated but Putin can't withstand the pressure he would be under if he arrested as many Olympians as would participate in the protest.
In any event Putin will win and those who oppose Russia's antigay laws will lose because on one side we have: power, money and fame, and on the other side we have gay rights. The winner will not be gay rights.
Boyd wrote: "It is a fact terrible but true not every reader in the M/M Romance group or here in the Complaint Department has read Eric Alan Westfall's ebook The Song which you can read for FREE in PDF, Mobi, a..."This post really
Y' see, I got up, let the dogs out and back, gave them their meds, got a bit of a cleanup-wakeup done, then turned on the computer so I can hopefully finish the new LHNB story I committed to doing a week ago (with a deadline tomorrow)...didn't want Zach to possibly be without a story. So, a quick Gmail check before the getting the juices...get your minds out of the mud...the creativity juices flowing...
When what to my wondering eyes should appear, but Boyd...in his Santa Claus gear?
A marvelous gift which will hopefully help to garner ratings to get the stats back up (me being the selfish git who gets a gift and thinks of how it can best benefit him). But, well, when you consider it objectively, gee, Eric and The Song? What's not to like?
>snicker<
Thanks, guy.
Eric
It's the Battle of the Bands
so don't let your favorite band lose! There is still time to write-in your vote or vote for one of the listed bands in our poll at:http://www.goodreads.com/poll/show/87...
Don't let your favorite be a loser because right now it is Queen one vote ahead of The Beatles.
How dare the Dutch force the British to be the first to eat the world's first lab-grown hamburger? It's been made in maastricht, so why don't the Dutch try it first. Is there something about it the clever Dutch know that the stupid Brits don't? It happens today, in London.Meanwhile—talking of monster foods—a FB friend asked me: "Wasn't there a bill passed recently in the U.S. that bans the growing of foodstuffs without them going through the Monsanto food police first?"
Well, sort of, frighteningly… http://www.globalresearch.ca/monsanto...
What's life coming to when another South American country goes Ura-gay?http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/it...
Roger wrote: "What's life coming to when another South American country goes Ura-gay?http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/it..."
That's funny because it was Uruguay where the bill was approved when the opposition mistakenly voted yes instead of no. But looking at this apparently the President signed the bill into Law anyway :D What a way to go gay!
Roger wrote: "He slipped in it by accident…"Aw, jeez Louise, Rog.
Groooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnn.
Eric
Thanks Roger for the link about the adorable Ben Whishaw. Good boy Roger, Good boy. ;)
I knew he was the BEST Q ever, now it is revealed he's the Q-est Q ever. ;)
And he hangs about in art galleries being Q-te
Yep, MY kind of nerd! I bet he reads too. :O
Rick wrote: "Yep, MY kind of nerd! I bet he reads too. :O"
What a thought. Some who actually reads. Hmmm.
Roger wrote: "< another head bowed in shame >"
I'm inturgerated that it has been more two days since anybody has
Well, I'm fed of up clearing next door neighbour's falling leaves and blossoms that turn to concrete on my driveway. There, that's a genuine complaint. He even walked past as I was bent over shoveling another pile of leaves into the bin and said with a bright smile, "Oh dear, it's my trees dropping all over your driveway." Bah!
How dreadful! Gadzooks your neighbor sounds so very British.
Roger wrote: "Well, I'm fed of up clearing next door neighbour's falling leaves and blossoms that turn to concrete on my driveway. There, that's a genuine complaint. He even walked past as I was bent over shovel..."And here, a couple years ago, I was furious that my neighbor's 50-foot tree had the audacity to fall on their driveway between our houses after a furious thunderstorm. So what did I do? I helped them clear out the wood. It only took about two hours but it made years of good will between us. (Now if I could just figure out how to get the neighboor's dog on the north side to stop barking all day...)
I'm totally fed up of hearing—even here in England—about the brutal Cardassian occupation of America. I had thought this only happened in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine… er, sorry background whispers… Oh, right. < back to foreground voice again >Apparently I have this all wrong, just a small misunderstanding of the spelling Kardashian, apparently.
Roger wrote: "Apparently I have this all wrong, just a small misunderstanding of the spelling Kardashian, apparently."No, Roger - I think it is a plot from the Cardassians to invade Earth and take us over. They have only been genetically altered to look humans. In other words Cardassian = Kardashian. They ARE a race of totalitarian fascists who care nothing for sentient dignity or the rights of the individual. They only promot their brainless consumerism and total obedience to authority. The only way to defeat them is to completely ignore them.
Lori wrote: "Hahahahaha"I just have this image of Odo doing the "Kardashian neck trick." Now THAT would be frightening (and hysterical).
I am continually annoyed with people who don't pick up after themselves. Someone just left the computer lab I'm currently in and (1) left their chair pushed out blocking the aisle and (2) left their left over lunch [pizza crusts and dipping sauce] sitting on the desk. It is as bad as those people who don't pick up and throw their empty popcorn buckets and sodas away after the movie is over. Americans can be such pigs! Please tell me that people don't do that in movie theaters in other parts of the world.
I hate to ruin your ideal vision of the rest of the world, Rick. By the time the third credit has rolled up the screen in the Shrewsbury CineWorld complex theatre, or the Telford UCI complex screen, everyone in their haste to get out of the car park before anyone else is tripping over giant emptied buckets of popcorn, Ben & Jerry's ice cream tubs, ten-litre "grandes" of Coke (not™ because it's all fake stuff) and so on. Not to mention the odd scattered chicken Piri Piri bone they couldn't finish at the Nandino's restaurant around the corner.
You think that's bad? I worked at a theater for about a year/year and a half - did everything from scooping popcorn to ticket sales. One of the worst jobs is having to clean up after a movie. The level of cleaning seems to be dictated by the type of movie, age group of the viewers (believe it or not, adults are worse in some ways than kids), the day the movie is running on, etc.One day, in the middle of the week, I went into one of the smaller theaters after a movie and found several empty bottles of Corona beer and the emptied stomach contents of one of the drinkers. There is a reason why I did not want to have anything to do with the medical field and here I was wishing for a bio-hazard suit and gas mask to clean the mess up. Disgusting!
After the first showing of the movie Twister I thought a twister *had* hit the theater, it was that much of a mess. The first time Matilda ran I was trying to move as quick as I could to get as much as possible up and a father and his daughter were extremely rude about the whole thing (I wasn't moving fast enough for them). Bah.
When we go see a movie these days, we try to go to the first showing so we don't have to deal with the mess. LOL
I guess I'm really lucky, then. While I don't go to movies all that often any more, though the senior prices early in the day are just fine ($4 for everything before 6 p.m. at the closest, $5 until noonish for the other), my experience has been unlike any of the above. And I'm mentally covering the past 10-12 years at these two theatres.If it's a screening with a large crowd, when you open the doors to leave, an appropriate sized cleaning crew is waiting for us to vacate the premises so they can clean up. Which means I can rarely recall walking into a theatre with trash around.
The only time I don't see a crew waiting is if, for example, I go to a really early show and there's only 3-4-5-10 of us in a 200-300+ seat theatre.
Like I said, lucky indeed.
Eric
p.s. If you heard just a wee tad of my theatres are better than your theatres, neener-neener-neener, up above...uh, well, that's on you, not me. >g<
I'm disinclinalated that they allow anyone who says "neener-neener-neener" to have a discount for people of a mature age.
Preston wrote: "I'm disinclinalated that they allow anyone who says "neener-neener-neener" to have a discount for people of a mature age."Who said anything about maturity?
I must complain that all I can do right now is comment on comments: @ Lori re: #5186 - I ALWAYS take anything out with me that I brought in and throw the refuse in the bin. I've never worked in a movie theater but I've always operated under the notion to treat others as I would want them to treat me. So leaving a mess behind me in the a theater would be insulting. I also try to tip well when at eating out - the last thing I want to do is piss off the people serving my food. Although at my favorite Thai restuarant I've been known to leave 50-60% tips (of course their prices are very resonable and portions are HUGE.
@ Eric Alan re: #5187 - my local theater (and there's only 1 left in my little town (Bowling Green Ohio - look it up) has five screens and still shows first run films, but they charge about $5 for adults and #3 matinees and for students. The selection isn't that great, but that leaves plenty of money available for popcorn. You can't beat that with a stick - well, you can, but why would you want to do that. ;)
@ Preston re #5188 - Maturity? Isn't that something that happens when you're dead? (I'm probably older than you, unless that isn't a very recent picture of you, so I can make that joke) ;)
@ Lori re #5189 - Yeah! Who needs maturity! Unless we're talking about the Doctor ... ;)
I'm miffed that Roger and Oliver went on vacation (sorry, on holiday) and they didn't take all of us with them.
Preston wrote: "I'm miffed that Roger and Oliver went on vacation (sorry, on holiday) and they didn't take all of us with them."I agree, totally miffed.
They went on holiday?! Well that's @)%%)#*$! Sigh.Oh well, we'll just have to muddle along without them. But, hey, we still have Gregory and Zaki for comfort, right?
Lori wrote: "They went on holiday?! Well that's @)%%)#*$! Sigh.Oh well, we'll just have to muddle along without them. But, hey, we still have Gregory and Zaki for comfort, right?"
Yes but the hero of the third companion book, Harry "smarmy" Vane known to the Pashtan people as Haary, is still inside Roger's head which is on "holiday." Thus we have to wait longer for Haary's Great Trek to be published.
Ah, wish I could complain but I'm home again after 6 days with the in-laws. Well, there was also hubby but he purposely dumped our canoe so...yeah, not in my good books!
I'm miffed you're all miffed. Now I won't bring back any sticks of rock. Think of Oli and me this Monday, that's when the flight leaves Gatwick (TAP, the Portuguese flag carrier) for Porto. But tomorrow won't really exist either, what with getting organized for a 6am departure from home on Monday.Meantime, who didn't see this? http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2013/08/09/...
Roger wrote: "Meantime, who didn't see this? http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2013/08/09/... "I'm anguished that the pinknews.com said the code could "...has been removed or suggested heavily not to be used…" when in fact it cannot be used at all because there is no code in the ICD9 or DSM4 for homosexuality. The government or the APA is not involved in this at all.
When the patient said, "...now here’s a medical professional telling us that we are sick. And it’s got to stop”. Pink News should have noted that it did stop forty years ago in 1973.
Neither the International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems ICD9 nor the American Psychiatric Association's DSM IV has hs a code for homosexuality. Homosexuality has not been considered as a disease (psychiatric disorder) in the US for 40 years.
Since this was in the US, the Doctor should have been charged with insurance fraud for billing for a disease that doesn't exist. In New York State where I live the least the State Health Department would do is suspended the doctor's license for one or more years and if she had done this repeatedly after 1973 she might have lost her license to practice medicine permanently.
Roger wrote: "I'm miffed you're all miffed. Now I won't bring back any sticks of rock. Think of Oli and me this Monday, that's when the flight leaves Gatwick (TAP, the Portuguese flag carrier) for Porto. But tom..."When is bigotry going to be listed as a Chronic Behavioral Disorder?
Roger wrote: "http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2013/08/10/..."I'm astonished and angry this is the best they can do.
And just what kind of a arm gesture represents support for gays and other sexual minorities?
Even worse, if the UK comes up with a pro-gay arm gesture what kind of anti-gay arm gesture will the Russians invent? Isn't this a little like calling each other names? ::sigh:: How did the world's leaders allow Putin to set this Olympic trap for them from which they cannot escape?
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