The Sea of Monsters (Percy Jackson and the Olympians, #2) The Sea of Monsters discussion


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The movies need to continue after this one

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message 1: by Pj (new)

Pj #CliffhangersSuckSunday. A series cannot end with a final shot as this. #weneedtitanscurse

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Please retweet and help support the cause for more movies i this series. Even if you do not care think of those that do. The books will STILL ALWAYS be the books regardless of how different they are.


Susan How can they continue the series? Kronos has already been resurrected and defeated, Luke is dead, and the Fleece is safe.


message 3: by Pj (new)

Pj 1) Kronos was only half resurrected hence why het got defeated so easily. He can/will come back in his full form. Did you not see the final shot of the movie?
2) Luke is NOT dead. Would he really be defeated so easily? He'd find a way out and despite all the changes they would not kill off a character like him so early. Again, consider the close up shot of him when he "died"
3) What does the fleece being safe have to do with anything? it had the exact same fate as the book


Susan Ok, but still, it's a mess. The director hasn't even read the book.


message 5: by Pj (new)

Pj Susan wrote: "Ok, but still, it's a mess. The director hasn't even read the book."

If you look close enough they actually did stay fairly true to the main overall plot of the book in both movies . I mean in LT the only real major differences were the age and the replacement of the chimera with the hydra. In SoM a lot of what they left out like the stuff with blackboard, etc would have been too ridiculous and expensive to to put on screen. While they could be better they were actually very true to the core essence of the books of a young man growing up and dealign with hidden greek mythology and going on pretty much the same quests as the books. Them being older does not change the poignancy or character envelopment as we all need that same level of development no matter the age.


Susan The whole point of them being so young in the books is to show you that you can change the world, no matter your age. There are so many movies that tell people you can change the world when you are fifteen/sixteen or older, and that is what makes the age a big deal. It's taking away that message.


Kaivallya Pj wrote: "Susan wrote: "Ok, but still, it's a mess. The director hasn't even read the book."

If you look close enough they actually did stay fairly true to the main overall plot of the book in both movies ...."

I don't really agree with that. By that logic, Star Wars and Harry Potter have the same main plot (orphan raised by uncle and aunt who do not tell him about his past, followed by training under a bearded mentor who prepares him for a fight with a villain raised from near-death who the hero has a special connection to). And in Lightning Thief, the quest is very different from the books. In the movie, they go to particular places to find "Persephone's pearls" but in the books, they're inexperienced twelve-year-olds trying to make their way across the country without dying. The tones are quite different.
In the movie, Ares makes no appearance except in a shot of the throne room, and he's an important part of the book. And Luke's motivation changes from the first movie to the second. First he says the demigods should have a chance to rule the world, then he's trying to raise Kronos.
But having started, and having changed the plot, they can't end it abruptly, especially not after that last shot in SoM.
And for all the complaining fans did after the first movie, they still watched the second one.


message 8: by Pj (new)

Pj I would like to apologize for making my justifications seem rash. I understand how much this series means to you guys. I do love this series too, despite disagreeing with what the majority thinks of it.

I do perfectly well understand how it feels to have “the things that we like about the series” taken out, especially when some people disagree with you on it. I see a lot of potential in the movies; ways in which they can also satisfy you book fans. They could do so many creative things with the series which is what an adaptation from its original source is all about. While the movies’ ideas so far have been a bit weak, they have the potential, if you believe in them, to bring something new to the series which can make it even better than it was before by introducing new concepts and ideas, kinda like how the Harry Potter movies and their video games added on a lot of new ideas that made me like that series overall more than I ever could, when I already loved it to pieces. To quote a fan concerning the upcoming Shadowhunters (Mortal Instruments) tv show:

“Wow I had no idea how awesome! considering they didn't follow through with the second movie I'm really glad not that the show could do the book justice but it spreads the shadow world”


Susan Yes, they did expand on the Harry Potter series, but they kept most of the stuff the same, such as their age, major and most minor events, etc. I can't speak for the Mortal Instruments much because I haven't seen the movie. Could you please give me a few (or even one) way they could satisfy us book fans? Because I can't see it.


message 10: by Pj (new)

Pj The movies can only get better as in getting more loyal to the books. They actually kept most major events the same in that they were loyal to the overall plot of both books. In LT, the only event that was really cut was the chimera scene which btw would have been extremely difficult to film. Other than that the overall plot was reasonably kept for an adaptation. In SoM, sure they did resurrect Kronos but he can easily come back as again that was Luke's goal in the book to begin with and it wasn't his full form. By the way, most people overlook that the Great Prophecy actually WAS in the SoM book but mentioned towards the end. They could pretty much make the book like a script for the remaining movies with the age being the only major difference. SoM started introducing some aspects that were in the books, or at least similar to them like with the concept of Hermes' mail room, the Siren Cafe etc. They all felt like things that coulda happened in the book, so the movies could include more things from the book in a similar but more loyal fashion. You do realize that they do have to cut/change things in order to make it work better cinematically right? Some things just do not work well on film as they do on page but from this point onwards they can only get more loyal. May I ask how you guys cannot be satisfied from this point onwards?


message 11: by Kaivallya (last edited Jul 06, 2015 03:34AM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

Kaivallya Most book fans -me included- will find some fault in the movie adaptation. But really, if you consider the movie as a stand-alone, the way you would for a movie not based on a book, it's not that bad. This applies for practically every book ever made into a movie, not just Percy Jackson.


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Jay Kaivallya wrote: "Most book fans -me included- will find some fault in the movie adaptation. But really, if you consider the movie as a stand-alone, the way you would for a movie not based on a book, it's not that b..." I agree, but still, the book was way more interesting!


message 13: by Pj (new)

Pj Jay wrote: "Kaivallya wrote: "Most book fans -me included- will find some fault in the movie adaptation. But really, if you consider the movie as a stand-alone, the way you would for a movie not based on a boo..."

Still the movie especially in this case adds more onto the book's mythology like with Hermes' mail room and the nectar. Just because its not as "interesting" as the book does not mean that it is not good


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Bookworm54 I gave up after the first movie. It was terrible.


message 15: by Pj (new)

Pj Bookworm54 wrote: "I gave up after the first movie. It was terrible."

2nd one is an improvement and actually feels like the book and a more reasonable adaptation


message 16: by Bookworm54 (new) - added it

Bookworm54 I may give it a chance. Is it a different director? It may take me a while to forgive the director of the first movie.


message 17: by Pj (new)

Pj Bookworm54 wrote: "I may give it a chance. Is it a different director? It may take me a while to forgive the director of the first movie."

Yes it is a different director. The tone is more in line with the book and even its changes feel as if they coulda happened in the book


message 18: by Bookworm54 (new) - added it

Bookworm54 I can live with this. I will have to watch it now.


message 19: by Pj (new)

Pj Bookworm54 wrote: "I can live with this. I will have to watch it now."

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