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message 1: by Feliks, Moderator (last edited Jun 03, 2015 09:01AM) (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) | 192 comments Mod
In today's world, are there really any 'intelligent' murderers who still cold-bloodedly carry out complicated, intricately-planned murder plots anymore? I assume all this spate of modern murder-mystery novels still offer readers. But can anyone in real life, help but be aware of the technology and resources arrayed against them these days and still--in the face of this--attempt to get away with such crimes? Or are these tremendous numbers of murder mysteries just 'one hand clapping'--keeping an old genre alive even though it no longer matches reality?

This is not my genre, so I am putting the question to you all. Obviously people still kill one another all over the globe: either in hot-blood, by psychos, gang-violence, or by stupid fools who are all easily caught.

But how many murders anymore, are so fiendishly complex and intelligently-wrought that it would take a real-life detective a whole novel's length to solve them? Isn't everything pretty much cut-and-dried at this point?

I mean if you're a detective and can go to a phone company and obtain records of a suspect's movements by the track of his GPS positions as revealed by his cellular device...are there still 'mysteries'?


message 2: by Martyn (new)

Martyn Halm (amsterdamassassinseries) | 1 comments Feliks wrote: "In today's world, are there really any 'intelligent' murderers who still cold-bloodedly carry out complicated, intricately-planned murder plots anymore?"

As someone who writes suspense fiction and does deep research into ways of disguising homicide, I can tell you that there are still people who specialize in these kind of affairs.

Feliks wrote: "But how many murders anymore, are so fiendishly complex and intelligently-wrought that it would take a real-life detective a whole novel's length to solve them?"

There are still murders that have gone unsolved for decades. And that's when detectives are aware that there were murders. Many people just 'disappear' and nobody knows what happens to them. This is not just the case with transients and people who lead lives on the margin, like street prostitutes, but also to respected people in the community.

Feliks wrote: "Isn't everything pretty much cut-and-dried at this point?"

Analysis of police investigations show they often hinge on having 'snitches' or criminals stupid enough to show unaccountable wealth. The IRS finds more drug lords than the DEA.

In fact, murderers have it easier than, say, thieves, because a thief needs to interact with other criminals to get rid of their goods (through fences), whereas the murderer can create a barrier between himself and his client, and the target (victim) cannot give witness of the deed other than the forensic evidence.

And while TV-shows like CSI give forensic sciences a prime role in the solving of the mysterious death, the reality is that CSI has muddled the waters even more for investigators, since juries often expect tangible forensic evidence in lieu of witness reports. And not only is the collecting of evidence often difficult, a skilled criminal can manipulate the evidence to thwart forensic investigations quite easily.

Feliks wrote: "I mean if you're a detective and can go to a phone company and obtain records of a suspect's movements by the track of his GPS positions as revealed by his cellular device...are there still 'mysteries'?"

To take your example: everybody knows that cell phones can be tracked, so a smart criminal will remove the battery from his cell phone to make absolutely sure the phone won't send any signals.

Plus, most skilled criminals use burner phones, use them only within a certain group of callers and make sure nobody uses the phone to call outside the group. With the prices of cell phones nowadays, you can have several different burner phones and carry them in an attache case shielded by a Farraday Cage.


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Marta Tandori (marta_tandori) | 3 comments Feliks wrote: "In today's world, are there really any 'intelligent' murderers who still cold-bloodedly carry out complicated, intricately-planned murder plots anymore? I assume all this spate of modern murder-mys..."

Hi Feliks,

Yes, I believe there are intelligent murderers aided by the advent of technology. Much like technology assists detectives and law enforcement individuals in finding killers, so does technology assist murderers and criminals. As a matter of fact, I recently wrote a blog on this. Please feel free to check it out. The link is here: http://martatandori.com/kaboom-youre-....


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