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Parvathy wrote: "Can anyone tell me whether season 3 has already started or not?"Season 3 finished shooting about two weeks ago and is in post-production. Airdate hasn't been given yet, but most people expect it to be mid to late January 2014.
Margaret wrote: "The first was the realisation that the modern John Watson was an Afghanistan veteran....."Definitely this and his PTSD just made him perfect. He's pretty much like the Watson I always wanted in the books.
Margaret wrote: "Parvathy wrote: "Can anyone tell me whether season 3 has already started or not?"Season 3 finished shooting about two weeks ago and is in post-production. Airdate hasn't been given yet, but most..."
Thanks, It is one of my favorite TV shows.
Hey Margaret, did you notice that since you found this thread we've managed to double it's posts in 4 days?? :D
Dawn wrote: "Hey Margaret, did you notice that since you found this thread we've managed to double it's posts in 4 days?? :D"Ummm, yeah, I had sort of noticed. I cannot help it. Sherlock Holmes in my favourite literary character.
Dawn wrote: "Margaret wrote: "The first was the realisation that the modern John Watson was an Afghanistan veteran....."Definitely this and his PTSD just made him perfect. He's pretty much like the Watson I a..."
I love the fact that, apart from the PTSD (which Watson has in the books, but it wasn't called that then), he is also intelligent. None of the duffer Watson of many in the movie incarnations.
Parvathy wrote: "Margaret wrote: "Parvathy wrote: "Can anyone tell me whether season 3 has already started or not?"Season 3 finished shooting about two weeks ago and is in post-production. Airdate hasn't been gi..."
Mine too. :)
Margaret wrote: "So you don't like Basil Rathbone/Nigel Bruce then either? Because all but two of their movies were set in the 1930s/1940s. :D.."lol. I don't think I have seen those Sherlocks. :)
Terri wrote: "Anastasia wrote: "I like the Downey/Law version; it's funny. My whole family enjoyed "Elementary" last season. ..."I have to disagree there. From my perspective that is. :)
I don't think Sherloc..."
I can totally respect that.
Dawn wrote: "I agree, the Holmes/Watson relationship is what makes BBC's Sherlock so good. I loved the beginning when the modern versions of the characters were developed. So good."I have yet to see the BBC version. Now I feel I must!
Terri wrote: "Margaret wrote: "So you don't like Basil Rathbone/Nigel Bruce then either? Because all but two of their movies were set in the 1930s/1940s. :D.."lol. I don't think I have seen those Sherlocks. :)"
And just so you know.....Basil Rathbone was Sherlock and Nigel Bruce was Watson. Like this one...http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0035318/?...
Its going to be shown in the uk in October.
Terri wrote: "Margaret wrote: "So you don't like Basil Rathbone/Nigel Bruce then either? Because all but two of their movies were set in the 1930s/1940s. :D.."lol. I don't think I have seen those Sherlocks. :)"
Nigel Bruce was Watson. I tend to refer to Holmes/Watson pairings. Rathbone/Bruce, Cumberbatch/Freeman etc.
Mark wrote: "Its going to be shown in the uk in October."That has been denied by Sue Vertue and Mark Gatiss. They've both said that no date has yet been set.
Currently reading a Sherlock Holmes pastiche that I am really enjoying. The Further Adventures of Sherlock Holmes: The Scroll of the DeadDavid Stuart Davies is one of the world's foremost Sherlockians. He wrote the great reference work on stage and screen Sherlock Holmes Starring Sherlock Holmes: A Century of the Master Detective on Screen
I was really excited to discover he visited the set of Sherlock during the recent shoot. Hopefully he is going to do a revision of his wok to include Sherlock, also the RDJ movies and Elementary.
Margaret wrote: "Mark wrote: "Its going to be shown in the uk in October."That has been denied by Sue Vertue and Mark Gatiss. They've both said that no date has yet been set."
Saw it advertised on the bbc begining of september, but I have checked online sources and as you say nothing has been decided.
Mark wrote: "Margaret wrote: "Mark wrote: "Its going to be shown in the uk in October."That has been denied by Sue Vertue and Mark Gatiss. They've both said that no date has yet been set."
Saw it advertised..."
Saw that trailer. 26 seconds of beautiful agony. So looking forward to season 3.
Mark wrote: "Margaret wrote: "Mark wrote: "Its going to be shown in the uk in October."That has been denied by Sue Vertue and Mark Gatiss. They've both said that no date has yet been set."
Saw it advertised..."
Okay, literally just saw this on the Radio Times Facebook page. Sherlock is scheduled to air in January 2014, but actual airdates have not been set yet.
Margaret wrote: "Mark wrote: "Margaret wrote: "Mark wrote: "Its going to be shown in the uk in October."That has been denied by Sue Vertue and Mark Gatiss. They've both said that no date has yet been set."
Saw ..."
Thanks Margaret, looking forward to it.
there talk of sir lan mckellen playing an aged holmes in a new film
Patrick wrote: "there talk of sir lan mckellen playing an aged holmes in a new film"I saw that. It's based on a novel, the name of which I cannot remember. :p
He would make a fab aged Sherlock!
Margaret wrote: "Patrick wrote: "there talk of sir lan mckellen playing an aged holmes in a new film"I saw that. It's based on a novel, the name of which I cannot remember. :p"
It's based off of the book
. My wife is reading it right now.
Don's onto it. He knows what's going on. :)
Just finished "The Scroll of the Dead" and reviewed it. Seems all my reviews are Sherlock Holmes related at the moment. :)http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/...
My wife Amy finished reading
and I thought I would throw her review on here.http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/...
Don wrote: "My wife Amy finished reading and I thought I would throw her review on here.http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/..."
Thanks for that. It's helped me decide whether or not to read it.
A couple of years ago my family found the Jeremy Brett version on PBS. It quickly became our favorite show. He was an absolutely brilliant actor. We've now seen every episode.
Gary wrote: "A couple of years ago my family found the Jeremy Brett version on PBS. It quickly became our favorite show. He was an absolutely brilliant actor. We've now seen every episode."Jeremy Brett was the best traditional Holmes. Whenever I read a Holmes/Watson story in my mind's eye I see Jeremy Brett and Edward Hardwicke.
Started another Sherlock Holmes pastiche. The Further Adventures of Sherlock Holmes: The Ectoplasmic Man This one also involves Houdini. Not too sure about it yet.
Margaret wrote: " Jeremy Brett was the best traditional Holmes. Whenever I read a Holmes/Watson story in my mind's eye I see Jeremy Brett and Edward Hardwicke." I totally agree. He had the greatest laugh. I liked it so much that I stole it for a role as the Wizard in a community theater production of the Wizard of Oz. The other actors were jealous.
Finished the pastiche I was reading. Not really recommended.http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/...
Gary wrote: ".. totally agree. He had the greatest laugh. I liked it so much that I stole it for a role as the Wizard in a community theater production of the Wizard of Oz. The other actors were jealous.."That's good to hear that you have an active community theatre, Gary. I am not one for theatre myself, but I think they have such value to all generations of a community.
Terri wrote: " That's good to hear that you have an active community theatre, Gary. I am not one for theatre myself, but I think they have such value to all generations of a community. "My daughter caught the acting bug, and we've become big fans of community theater. Just auditioned for A Christmas Carol, but I am getting off topic!
I suppose we are getting off topic. :) I'll try and get it back on...Has your theatre group ever thought of doing some Sherlock Holmes?
Maybe some The Hound of the Baskervilles?
Terri wrote: "I suppose we are getting off topic. :) I'll try and get it back on...Has your theatre group ever thought of doing some Sherlock Holmes?
Maybe some The Hound of the Baskervilles?"
My favourite Sherlock Holmes story of the lot. :) I have seen so many dramatised versions. :D
A classic for the community theatre groups. :)
"Terri wrote: " Has your theatre group ever thought of doing some Sherlock Holmes? Maybe some The Hound of the Baskervilles? "No, but that is a great idea! I know just the people to talk to about that. Thanks for the suggestion.
Hey you're welcome. I hope they go for it. :)
It seems even professional authors are Sherlock Holmes addicted. Kerry Greenwood's latest book Murder and Mendelssohnhas two characters based on BBC "Sherlock" versions of John and Sherlock. :D
Margaret. Out of curiousity.. Why so addicted to Sherlock? What is it about Sherlock that got you so hooked?
Terri wrote: "Margaret. Out of curiousity.. Why so addicted to Sherlock? What is it about Sherlock that got you so hooked?"For a start I am a Sherlockian. Have been since I first read A Study in Scarlet when I was 10.
I resisted BBC Sherlock when it came out. I wasn't interested in a modernisation. I didn't like the Rathbone movies for that reason. I had also got very disillusioned with portrayals of the Holmes/Watson relationship. They were so far away from what ACD wrote.
Then a friend of mine got into it via the dvds. She nagged at me and I kept saying no. Then she transcribed some of the script of "A Scandal in Belgravia" for me. It was pure gold and I was suddenly very interested. From what she sent me it seemed that this modernisation might actually have a true Holmes/Watson balanced dynamic.
I bought the season 1 dvds. When I realised that Watson was an Afghanistan war vet I was pleased, but then they showed the scene from A Study in Scarlet that is only mentioned in passing in the book - Sherlock beating a corpse. At that point I was totally hooked.
For me it is two things. The fact that the friendship of Sherlock and John is pure ACD. They balance each other as they do in the books. The second thing is that the three writers are all Sherlockians and they pepper the scripts with obscure references and in jokes.
Fab. Thanks for that Margaret. As mentioned earlier in this thread, the appeal to me with Sherlock and Watson is the Victorian crime solving setting.
It got me to thinking. Seeing as many of you don't care what the setting is and you are happy with Sherlock in any setting..well, I wanted to dig deeper into what it is about the character that draws you (and any others are welcome to share too if you care to) . :)
Terri wrote: "Fab. Thanks for that Margaret. As mentioned earlier in this thread, the appeal to me with Sherlock and Watson is the Victorian crime solving setting.
It got me to thinking. Seeing as many of you ..."
The reality is that Holmes and Watson is the deepest friendship in literature. I think that is what the appeal is for many of us, regardless of what time period the characters are set in.
Margaret, my wife wanted me to mention a series of books she has that she likes from a local author named Larry Millett. They are set in the United States around 1890's, but she seems to really enjoy them.
Don wrote: "Margaret, my wife wanted me to mention a series of books she has that she likes from a local author named Larry Millett. They are set in the United States around 1890's, but she seems to really en..."Thanks Don, I'll see if my library has them. If not, I'll try the inter-library loan system. Please thank your wife for me. :)
I'm currently reading The Science of Sherlock Holmes: From Baskerville Hall to the Valley of Fear, the Real Forensics Behind the Great Detective's Greatest Cases It's very interesting tracing as it does the growth of forensics in that period.
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Two things caught me. The first was the realisation that the modern John Watson was an Afghanistan veteran. The second was seeing the scene that ACD described in "A Study in Scarlet" of Sherlock Holmes beating a corpse in the morgue.
I was totally hooked by that point. Throw in all the little Sherlockian asides, including lines lifted straight from the books, and I was devoted.