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message 1: by Heidi (new) - added it

Heidi Belleau You know the drill, let us know what you thought of episode 4, ask us questions, etc!


BookAddict  ✒ La Crimson Femme I LOVED IT! I pushed the 40 other books I had to get done out of the way and read this one first. *Spankings for me*

I liked how this one was more psychological. I can't wait for episode 5.

I really don't like serial formats, but I do like this one. It reminds me of when I used to collect comic books. Every month or two, a new comic book for the one I was following would come out and I'd pore all over it.

Great job, Heidi! I kind of wished that Sirly Eric would read a couple of scenes from this one. There are so many great passages to choose from.

I found this one to be the sweetest one in the series so far. It's a BUY THIS BOOK NOW Be-yotch category.


Lisa Arbitrary - AttentionIsArbitrary M/M Blog I felt completely manipulated by this book. My head was going one way with Dougie's thoughts only to be totally jerked around. Thank you :D

Aggggh, Mat just killed me. That line he's straddling is precarious indeed.

Nikolai, geeez, I just love to hate him.

I don't know if this sounds good or bad to hard working authors, but #5 can't come soon enough. Demanding? Yes, but suck it up, I have needs :)

This isn't a question, unless you want to answer it anyway :D, but I'm more curious than ever about Roger after this episode. He just feels like a wildcard. You teased us with a line from episode...8 maybe??? regarding Roger and I'm crazy for knowing how we get there and what's surrounding that scene.

I wish you both great success with this serial. I think it's brilliant.


message 4: by Rachel (new)

Rachel Haimowitz ♆ BookAddict wrote: "I LOVED IT! I pushed the 40 other books I had to get done out of the way and read this one first. *Spankings for me*

I liked how this one was more psychological. I can't wait for episode 5.

..."


Aww :D That's awesome, I'm so glad you're enjoying it so much!


message 5: by Rachel (new)

Rachel Haimowitz LisaT - We Are Qhuay! wrote: "I felt completely manipulated by this book. My head was going one way with Dougie's thoughts only to be totally jerked around. Thank you :D

Aggggh, Mat just killed me. That line he's straddling is..."


Thank you! :D

Re: Roger, he's . . . an interesting character. And kind of a tragic one too, imo. I'm not sure which line you're referring to, but I can say that Roger starts to play a bigger role in the stories than you've seen so far. Not a huge role--he doesn't become, like, a fourth viewpoint character or anything--but you will get to learn more about his past and his present and he does have a significant role to play.


Lisa Arbitrary - AttentionIsArbitrary M/M Blog This was posted on twitter a week ago, or so:

(view spoiler)

He, his and their is what's killing me ;)


BookAddict  ✒ La Crimson Femme Rachel wrote: "
Re: Roger, he's . . . an interesting character. And kind of a tragic one too, imo. I'm not sure which line you're referring to, but I can say that Roger starts to play a bigger role in the stories than you've seen so far. Not a huge role--he doesn't become, like, a fourth viewpoint character or anything--but you will get to learn more about his past and his present and he does have a significant role to play. "


*rubs hands gleefully* Oh goodie!!!


message 8: by Rachel (new)

Rachel Haimowitz LisaT - We Are Qhuay! wrote: "This was posted on twitter a week ago, or so:

[spoilers removed]

He, his and their is what's killing me ;)"


LOL, oh, that line >:D

Yeah, mum's the word on that one. I'm afraid you'll have to wait to find out.


message 9: by Rachel (new)

Rachel Haimowitz ♆ BookAddict wrote: "Rachel wrote: "
Re: Roger, he's . . . an interesting character. And kind of a tragic one too, imo. I'm not sure which line you're referring to, but I can say that Roger starts to play a bigger role..."


Yeah, Roger's a fun character to play with--Heidi and I are having a ball with him.


BookAddict  ✒ La Crimson Femme Rachel wrote: "Yeah, Roger's a fun character to play with--Heidi and I are having a ball with him. "

*snort* You're having a ball with his balls? Or does he just have a ball left which is why he's so obedient?


message 11: by Rachel (new)

Rachel Haimowitz ♆ BookAddict wrote: "Rachel wrote: "Yeah, Roger's a fun character to play with--Heidi and I are having a ball with him. "

*snort* You're having a ball with his balls? Or does he just have a ball left which is why he..."


LOL yeah, I realized the joke in there after I hit "post" :-p I assure you Roger still has both balls.


Lisa Arbitrary - AttentionIsArbitrary M/M Blog Rachel wrote: "Yeah, mum's the word on that one. I'm afraid you'll have to wait to find out. "


Hell, I was SO close to breaking you. *shakes head Where did I go wrong?


message 13: by Rachel (new)

Rachel Haimowitz LisaT - We Are Qhuay! wrote: "Rachel wrote: "Yeah, mum's the word on that one. I'm afraid you'll have to wait to find out. "


Hell, I was SO close to breaking you. *shakes head Where did I go wrong?"


Probably in thinking you were so close to breaking me ;-p


message 14: by Rach (new) - rated it 5 stars

Rach I'm not sure if I am butting into a private feed here?? So sorry if I am :/

I just wanted to say how much I absolutely LOVED your FC books. Volume 4 was by far the best in my opinion. I am so excited to read the next two!

Is there just going to be 6 in the series? (excuse my just in that sentence) I would love it to go on forever. Gosh that sounds like I want poor Dougie and Mat to go through eternal torture for my warped minds pleasure :/


message 15: by Rachel (new)

Rachel Haimowitz Racht ~cute dimpled minx~ wrote: "I'm not sure if I am butting into a private feed here?? So sorry if I am :/

I just wanted to say how much I absolutely LOVED your FC books. Volume 4 was by far the best in my opinion. I am so exci..."


Nope, not a private feed--this is the public Q&A/Comment/Rant thread for whoever wants to hop in :)

There will probably end up being 18 episodes in the series, but Heidi and I aren't exactly sure. We've just wrapped episode #9, and I *think* that episode #10 will conclude Season 3 (though that miiiiiiiight end up going to episode #11, but probably not). The way we've plotted, it looks like there'll be five seasons total.

Also, thank you for the very kind words--I'm so glad you're enjoying the direction the story's taking! :D


Lisa Arbitrary - AttentionIsArbitrary M/M Blog Hey Racht, nah this is an open book discussion.

I know I've seen Rachel and Heidi say that they've completed episode 8 and I believe they have plans to go long beyond that.

If you are on twitter you might want to follow @FleshCartel. They've posted teasers and other info there.

Rachel - Yes, I must be delusional. o_O


message 17: by Rach (new) - rated it 5 stars

Rach @Rachel- Gosh this is confusing with two Rachel's as keep thinking people are talking to me :S lol

You really don't need to thanks me I meant what I said. To have a talent like yours and Heidi's to write these stories is amazing.

I cannot believe there are going to be so many episodes, you have just made my day telling me that



I will certainly be pre-ordering them :)


message 18: by Rach (new) - rated it 5 stars

Rach LisaT - We Are Qhuay! wrote: "Hey Racht, nah this is an open book discussion.
I know I've seen Rachel and Heidi say that they've completed episode 8 and I believe they have plans to go long beyond that...."


I don't use twitter- guess I miss out on all the good stuff by not doing :(

I cannot wait to read further in the series. Thanks Lisa for responding to my questions :)


BookAddict  ✒ La Crimson Femme Racht ~cute button evil minx~ wrote: "@Rachel- Gosh this is confusing with two Rachel's as keep thinking people are talking to me :S lol

You really don't need to thanks me I meant what I said. To have a talent like yours and Heidi's t..."


I love your gif! That is how I feel now that I know there are going to be about 18 episodes. Woot!


message 20: by Rach (new) - rated it 5 stars

Rach Thanks. I'm hyper with excitement :)


message 21: by Emily (last edited Feb 26, 2013 08:02PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Emily I just got caught up in this series. I was going to wait until it was finished but I am weak willed I guess ;) I just have to say that this one messed me up the most. Poor Dougie. Poor Mat................I just love Mat. I don't know what exactly it is about him but yeah I want to virtually punch Nikolai in his stupid face every time he tells Mat his life will suck. Jerkface.


Lisa Arbitrary - AttentionIsArbitrary M/M Blog Hi Emily! I'm telling you this series just has me so twisted and questioning everything. What if Dougie (view spoiler)? What about Mat (view spoiler) Then what about Nikolai (view spoiler) If I want the boys to be less hurt how can I deny them some comfort? Which has me hoping that Nikolai will (view spoiler)

You see, I'm just so messed up! And it's all the fault of Rachel and Heidi. Why am I letting them do this to me? Gah, I just LOVE this series!!!!!
:D


Emily I don't want Nikolai to be happy. I want him to get eaten by a werewolf or something...............

(view spoiler)


Lisa Arbitrary - AttentionIsArbitrary M/M Blog I really have to think...and hope they'll get away somehow before being separated further, right? I know there's gonna be some justice out there...way out there, so I have to hold on for that. As far as "us" being tortured, I don't think we've seen anything yet.

I really have lost it, haven't I, that I sort of, sometimes, just a wee little bit, might have a feeling for Nikolai? *runs away

There's really no hope for me left.


message 25: by Emily (last edited Feb 26, 2013 08:52PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Emily LOL It is okay to love the bad guy. Although I think you just have stockholm syndrome..................


message 26: by Heidi (new) - added it

Heidi Belleau You haven't seen anything yet. Season 3 is rough from start to finish. And that's all I'm saying about it, although I love reading your theories and hopes! ;)


message 27: by Emily (last edited Feb 26, 2013 08:57PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Emily Heidi wrote: "You haven't seen anything yet. Season 3 is rough from start to finish. And that's all I'm saying about it, although I love reading your theories and hopes! ;)"

oh I am ready. Bring it on. :p although now I am a bit afraid for the boys...............


Lisa Arbitrary - AttentionIsArbitrary M/M Blog I do.

I actually am a Dougie :)


Lisa Arbitrary - AttentionIsArbitrary M/M Blog Heidi wrote: "...although I love reading your theories and hopes! ;)"


Laughing all the way, aren't you Heidi?


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Heidi Belleau Except for when I'm crying.


message 31: by Rachel (new)

Rachel Haimowitz Heidi wrote: "Except for when I'm crying."

(^^^That's when I laugh the hardest ;-p)

And no, nothing wrong with liking Nikolai. Heidi and I are both quite fond of him as a character, even if he is an utterly despicable human being. He's very compelling despite it all.


Tanya I love all the characters:)
Especially Nikolai.....


Emily It's hard for me to love him. He is an awesome guy and I tend to feel like awwwwwwwww when he is thinking things like poor bastard about giving mat a life of hardship lol


Tanya Were in for a long ride the trainings just begun!!!!!
I can't wait for book 5, I just wish it was in full novel form
and written into a series, instead of short stories.
But don't get wrong I'm hooked......


Emily I like getting them in short stories because then you only have to wait a little bit in between instead of MONTHS AND MONTHS of torture wondering what is happening to our boys!


Emily I need it too Rebecca. Just a breather from the torture lol.


Emily no i have to read it after my kids are in bed or else I may freak out. I did that while reading the second episode I think? I was like oh you bitch out loud. My boyfriend thought I was crazy.


Tanya Emily wrote: "I like getting them in short stories because then you only have to wait a little bit in between instead of MONTHS AND MONTHS of torture wondering what is happening to our boys!"


Yeah I feel you, but I just want to keep reading sometime:)


Tanya Well the wait will be over next week book 5 on the way:)


Emily I know what you mean book depression I like it......I have experienced it LOL


Tanya Yeah lol... the series does pull you in.....


message 42: by [deleted user] (new)

I think it's a very intense series. Nikolai I hate, but I may change if I know more about him and his past. This torture and brainwashing of Dougie and Matt is scary and creepy yet I can not get from it and want to read on. This series is my favorite and I'm waiting impatiently on the next volume comes out.

I am very glad to know I could buy this series on Riptide and I continue to buy books there.

Could there possibly be a book that just as intense as this series that maybe is longer and that you might write sometime?

There are so many aspects of psychology in the series and where you see how far a man can go under pressure and torture. You must surely also have studied this thoroughly from what I can read and therefore the series is much closer to reality than fantasy. 

Thank you for making so Great and thrilling psychologically intense series, I love to read it. <3 <3 <3

My mom thinks I'm crazy when I try to talk about the books and I really enjoy reading such books which excites me that much. I'm the type who likes to read such dark books, just it is not me who is in the situation :-D


Lisa Arbitrary - AttentionIsArbitrary M/M Blog I think I have the secret to serial/episodic series. You just have to be reading several at one time, that way one is always bound to be near release and you'll have that one to hold you until the other series' episode is due.

Does that make sense? At first I didn't think I would like this book style, but now that I'm reading about 3 it's totally working for me. Just like with a favorite tv series, it's something I really look forward to.


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