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message 1: by Stuart (new)

Stuart Harrison | 18 comments I'd be interested to know if price is singificant influence on your decision about buying ebooks? This kind of follows from Tracy's topic concerning free books. I buy almost all my books for Kindle now, and price isn't really a factor, except that I resent paying more than 9.99 tops in US money, simply because the distribution, production and retailer margin costs are way way lower than for print, and a higher price can't be justified,in my view. I'm happy to pay 6 to 8 US, anything less is a bonus, but I don't shop for cheap books. How about you?


message 2: by Betsy (last edited Jan 25, 2013 04:25PM) (new)

Betsy Price is a factor, but not a primary one. I don't think I have ever rejected a book solely because of price. Although there's one I looked at recently that may be the first. The hardback is about $17 and the Kindle version is about $15. That sticks in my craw.


message 3: by Stuart (new)

Stuart Harrison | 18 comments Betsy wrote: "Price is a factor, but not a primary one. I don't think I have ever rejected a book solely because of price. Although there's one I looked at recently that may be the first. The harback is about..."

Blatant price gouging by the publisher!


message 5: by Joan (new)

Joan (jomarcho1) | 30 comments Price is a factor for me. I try to stay around the $6.00 to less range. I have gotten some really good free ebooks since that is primarily where I read mine. I have a kindle and a Nook and can get the free ebooks every day through the email letter they send out, but they only stay that way for a day and then the price goes back up. I will pay a little more for a print book at Costco or B @ N if I really love the book.


message 6: by Randy (new)

Randy Harmelink | 2930 comments Betsy wrote: "Interesting article:

http://talkingwriting.com/how-much-sh..."


I wouldn't be purchasing many eBooks based on Dean Wesley Smith's suggested prices. IMO, a short story isn't worth more than $0.99, and sometimes that is outrageous.

The author of that blog said they earn about $0.30 per book, based on prices of $0.99 to $4.99. With KDP, that would be returning $0.34 to $3.49 per sale.

The issue these days is that Amazon has so many free books available. So far, many of those have been good quality, enough for me to pay $2.99 to $3.99 for later books by the same authors. But $6.99 to $7.99 for a novel? Not when I have so many books to already spend time on.

To me, the question shouldn't be what the price of the books should be, but how much the author should be compensated. If that blog author was happy with $0.30 per book, he could be selling all of his books on KDP for $0.99 and be getting more royalties.

I think the mistake too many KDP authors make is to offer ALL of the books in their series for free. The first book in a series should be sufficient. Or offer it permanently for $0.99, but charge more for later books in the series.


message 7: by Santino (new)

Santino (tinoprinzi) | 6 comments The most expensive eBook I have purchased was 20 pence so I guess it's a factor for me!


message 8: by Mohammed (new)

Mohammed Alshanakhnakh (abushaheed) | 2 comments If I want the book, then the price isn't a big factor.

Having said that, I do try to locate the best deals when shopping books and I really resent the fact that kindle editions are often priced higher than paperbacks.


message 9: by ✿Claire✿ (new)

✿Claire✿ (clairelm) I will only pay for an ebook if it is significantly less than the paperback. I think the most I've paid is about £3 for a kindle book. I did once accidentally pay about £25 for one (it had been free when I first clicked on it but by the time I went to get it it was no longer free) but Amazon kindly refunded my money and deleted the book.
Price is a big part of it as I'm a student so don't have a lot of money to spend on books. If I can find it in the library instead, I'd prefer to do that, especially if I don't know if I'll like it or not.


message 10: by Rachel (new)

Rachel Mohammed wrote: "Having said that, I do try to locate the best deals when shopping books "

Please check out Luzme, my ebook price comparison site.

http://luzme.com

It lets you compare the prices across all the major vendors straightaway, and if the price is too high, then you can add the book to your watchlist, and the site will email when the price changes.

Rachel


message 11: by Mohammed (new)

Mohammed Alshanakhnakh (abushaheed) | 2 comments Awesome! Thanks Rachel and best of luck!


message 12: by Joan (new)

Joan (jomarcho1) | 30 comments I always consider the cost of the paperback plus shipping. If it's less than the Kindle Book I will order. I must say I do find many of my books at thrift stores though for around 50 cents to a dollar. I have found authors I like that way and then buy more from them.


message 13: by Sandy (new)

Sandy | 29 comments I won't but an ebook if it's the same price as a paperback copy. If I don't want to keep a paperback I can at least trade it in at the local used book store. A lot of the ebooks I read are either free or 2.99 or less.


message 14: by Stuart (last edited Jan 26, 2013 01:48PM) (new)

Stuart Harrison | 18 comments Randy wrote: "Betsy wrote: "Interesting article:

http://talkingwriting.com/how-much-sh..."

I wouldn't be purchasing many eBooks based on Dean Wesley Smith's suggested prices. IMO, a short story ..."


I agree 99c for a short story is crazy. Personally I wouldn't pay anything for a short story. If I was going to write one myself, say up to five or six thousand words, I'd be doing it with the intention of giving it away to showcase my writing. Actually that's not a bad idea. I might do that. On the subject of compensation for an author, I'm selling my two, full length novels for 7.99. The most recent took two years to research and write, working full time I might add. I think 7.99 for a 135 thou word book is good value. I'm aware of the arguments about volume at a lower price, though. I suppose that's why I asked the question on this topic. I want to see what people think


message 15: by Mary X (last edited Jan 26, 2013 02:02PM) (new)

Mary X (marymaryalwayscontrary) I won't pay more than $5 for an ebook unless it's a multiple book bundle or unavailable in print and then it'll most likely just get added to my Amazon WL and sit there.

I have no problem buying new print books but then I own my copy. I can sell it, trade it or give it away.

The most I ever paid for an ebook was for a 3 book bundle and that was $8. I mainly use my Kindle for freebies and library books. 99% of the time that I pay for a book it's in print or audio.


message 16: by Randy (new)

Randy Harmelink | 2930 comments Stuart wrote: "I agree 99c for a short story is crazy. Personally I wouldn't pay anything for a short story."

The cited article had an author suggesting that $2.99 was appropriate for an eBook short story!

Stuart wrote: "On the subject of compensation for an author, I'm selling my two, full length novels for 7.99. The most recent took two years to research and write, working full time I might add. I think 7.99 for a 135 thou word book is good value."

But I was asking a different question -- what compensation would you get per book from traditional publishers, and what would that translate to as a book price in the KDP compensation scheme? If the blog writer was happy with $0.30 per book, he should be more than happy with selling his books for $0.99 on Amazon's KDP.

But then there's also the question of what services the publishers provide -- editing, promotion, etc. All costs and activities which the author has to absorb if self-publishing.

At $7.99, I wouldn't give an eBook a second look. Even with my favorite authors.


message 17: by Melissa (new)

Melissa | 4 comments I love free ebooks. I have found so many series I loved that way. When I finish a book I like I immediately see if there are others in the series and buy them up. I am usually willing to spend $5 or less on e-books. I have paid $15 for a book but it was one of my absolute favorite series and the book was 700 pages long. I will rarely spend that much though. If I have never read anything by the author before I'm only willing to cough up $2.99-$3.99 to try them out.


message 18: by A Voracious Reader (a.k.a. Carol) (last edited Jan 26, 2013 04:05PM) (new)

A Voracious Reader (a.k.a. Carol) (avidreader68) Sorry, but I refuse to pay more for an ebook than I would pay for a paperback. There is no printing or shipping involved, so charging the same or slightly less for an ebook as a hard cover to me is beyond ridiculous.

For the most part I pick up free books. I like to try a free book on a new-to-me author because what if I don't like the writing? If I like the writing then I'm more likely to buy the next book. As long as it isn't too expensive. I will not pay more than .99 for a story less than 100 pages even if it sounds interesting. And .99 for a story that's 8 pages? 17 pages? 23 pages? No. Why aren't they .50? I'd pay that if a story grabbed my attention.

Anyway, the most I've paid for an ebook (and I rarely buy them) was $5.18 (or something like that) and that was by an author I had already read, so I knew I liked her style. However, for an author I really like I'm willing to go up to $7.99 as long as the book is about 400 pages or more.


message 19: by Sandy (new)

Sandy | 29 comments Randy wrote: "Stuart wrote: "I agree 99c for a short story is crazy. Personally I wouldn't pay anything for a short story."

The cited article had an author suggesting that $2.99 was appropriate for an eBook sho..."


A number of self published authors and some small print publishers actually send out copies to readers who are willing to beta read for editing purposes. I've done beta reading for both. It doesn't cost them anything but a few electronic or print copies and it's fun to be one of the first people to read a new book. And most of the self published authors I've read I've discovered on line, either through Goodreads, blogs, Facebook, or Amazon recommendations.

I agree with other commentators that an author should only give away the first book in a series for free or a reduced price. I have no problem paying for the rest of the series if it's one that I've tried and enjoyed.


message 20: by Randy (new)

Randy Harmelink | 2930 comments Related to pricing and book length, here's a review I wrote for one free "book" I downloaded (Southbound) from an Indy author:

"What is it coming to when a 19-page short story is the first entry in a TRILOGY?

I was a little hesitant about even getting the book, since the book description has two typographical errors in the first two sentences. However, the book was not riddled with them.

I did enjoy the story that was there, but it was just a start and incomplete. Not much of a setup -- there's almost more information in the book's description. And nothing gets resolved. Very unsatisfying from a reader viewpoint.

Just write two more chapters and release it as a single book -- it will STILL be a short story."

And, BTW, the 2nd part of the "trilogy" was promised for fall of 2012. Still not there. :)


A Voracious Reader (a.k.a. Carol) (avidreader68) A book, no matter how long or short, should have some kind of beginning, middle and end. Even if it's an 8 page sex scene.

A cliffhanger is one thing, but an abrupt end is another. Probably my most favorite cliffhanger is at the end of The Empire Strikes Back. That story ended, but there was a clear direction the next would take. It is not a complete story without some kind of conclusion.


message 22: by Stacy (new)

Stacy (zombietonic) Price is a factor simply because I don't OWN the books from Amazon. They are rentals for as long as the publisher decides ebook format or for as long as you are an Amazon.com customer. I can't see buying a rental book for anything more than a few dollars. Their movies are the same way. They aren't for you to keep, they are for you to rent. Irritates the heck out of me!!!!


message 23: by Randy (new)

Randy Harmelink | 2930 comments Henry, I've seen more than a few eBooks with multiple credits -- author, editor, illustrator. And I've seen more in the past few months than I did a year ago. So I think that goes along with what you're saying. I suppose the only credit that's missing is software consultant? :)

But, as the authors reap more gain per book, they can afford such services.

And I've seen more than a few major publisher eBooks that could have used a good proofread. It looked like they had merely scanned in the manuscript and run it through a spell checker.


message 24: by Randy (new)

Randy Harmelink | 2930 comments Henry wrote: "I was simply trying to respond to those who say authors should be happy with $.30 per book because the readers are suffering from the 'Walmart' effect in the ebook industry."

I brought that up, because it was the number the blog author quoted for what he received for his books -- from a publisher.

I was pointing out that KDP paid a lot better.

For me, the question was how much additional costs the author had to bear if not having a publisher...

But if the author can receive $3.49 per book instead of $0.30, that can pay for a lot of services.

Henry wrote: "When I shopped around for typesetting service in Indesign, the quotes were $40-60 per hour, with 30-40 hours being the average for a book with images/illustrations, multiple fonts, header/footer, chapter headings, and such."

Why would you need a typesetter for an eBook? Or do they still have the same title in the electronic world?


message 25: by Randy (new)

Randy Harmelink | 2930 comments Henry wrote: "At the same time, an author who charges a little more for their book because they feel their work is worth something, is also within his rights."

I just saw a message here on GoodReads from someone promoting a new zombie apocalypse book. It was $2.99, for only a 68-page "book".

They won't be selling one to me, not when I've purchased books from authors I like for that price, that had 300+ pages of apocalyptic fun.


message 26: by Linda (new)

Linda Mallet (lmallet) | 11 comments ebooks are a plus for me. I remember when i paid $27.00 for a Hardback, $9.00 for a paperback, and had to wind up giving them away due to lack of space. i have carpal tunnel syndrome and can't hold books without pain. I don't worry too much about price because i know it will eventually change. i don't buy books i can't afford.


message 27: by Pat (new)

Pat (pat_gee) | 14 comments I just finished a two-day freebie for my ebook UNRAVELLED. $2.99 for all that work seemed pitiful. Free? Ugh. I'd been holding out then decided to try the Kindle Select program. I've been so thrilled with the market saturated with free ebooks and Amazon (and everyone else) promoting them (that's sarcasm, of course).
Giving my book away for nothing was more painful than I thought. I'm hoping the results will cheer me up.

I like ebooks. They're easy to buy and I've found several cheap ones that are better than some of the best sellers. Also, I'm on the computer a lot and I can set the print size on my Kindle to make reading easier.


message 28: by Randy (new)

Randy Harmelink | 2930 comments Pat wrote: "I just finished a two-day freebie for my ebook UNRAVELLED."

One issue I have with Amazon is that they should improve the page layout and immediately identify the genre(s) of the book. Looking at the web page for your book, I have no idea of what type of book it might be, until I read your description or the reviews. I shouldn't have to dig for that information, especially since some authors fill the book description area with advertising of other books, or excerpts from copied reviews (which still may not identify genre).

For example, if I go over and view "Cabin in the Woods" on NetFlix, I'm quickly told:

Genres: Horror, Slashers and Serial Killers, Blu-ray
This movie is: Violent, Exciting, Mind-bending, Scary, Feel-good

Somehow, "feel-good" doesn't quite fit it with all of those other items, does it? And I think "Blu-ray" is more of an advertisement than a genre. :)


A Voracious Reader (a.k.a. Carol) (avidreader68) Randy wrote: "Pat wrote: "I just finished a two-day freebie for my ebook UNRAVELLED."

One issue I have with Amazon is that they should improve the page layout and immediately identify the genre(s) of the book. ..."


Oh boy, you just pointed out something that irritates the bejeesus out of me. The description of the book should be just that. A description! If I see a book advertising right out of the gate, I skip it. I may be missing out on something I would love and would promote, but I'm not going to dig for info. I don't give a rat's ass if so-n-so loved it or it's compared to this-that-&-the-other. I buy books based on the blurb. I don't care about covers and I rarely read reviews. So there has to be a blurb up front and personal or I pass.

Blu-ray as a genre? Someone needs to read the description of 'genre.'


message 30: by ✿Claire✿ (new)

✿Claire✿ (clairelm) What I would really love on Kindle books is if you could access the blurb. A book I'm reading at the moment has it before chapter 1 but I don't like having to go online to find what the book's about


message 31: by Randy (new)

Randy Harmelink | 2930 comments Henry wrote: "I'm in no way promoting my own, so this is just an example, but this is how I set up my Kindle page:"

Just below the price it has:

* Length: 231 pages (Contains Real Page Numbers)

There are two summary items I would like to see just above that, as part of the standard page layout:

* Category: Literary Fiction, Adventure, Urban Life
* Features: TTS Enabled, Lending Enabled

...instead of having to search for those things on the web page, after the product description and reviews. To me, those are high-level details, not trivial ones that should be almost hidden. I couldn't care less what the digital list price and print list price are for the book, or how much I save from those prices.

I'm also bummed that the "Tags" section on books has disappeared. :(


message 32: by Melissa (new)

Melissa I usually stick to the $3 or less books on the kindle. I did pay $7 for one and it made me cringe that I was paying that much.

I use my kindle to buy cheaper/free versions of books from authors I haven't read to see if I like them. I think its smart for authors who write series to offer the first one fro free or $0.99 since I'm more likely to check out the series.


message 33: by Summer (new)

Summer (paradisecity) I don't read indie work, so I'm only buying from big name publishers. I try to keep my purchases under $10, with exceptions for books I'm really excited about or books my book club is reading. Even then, I'll usually wait for the price to come down some before I purchase. I think anything over $12 is excessive, particularly given that I'm paying for a license and not the actual content.


message 34: by J.C. (new)

J.C. (jcjoranco) | 2 comments I usually buy ebooks under 5 bucks. If it costs any more I feel I might as well buy a paperback copy of the book.

My own book is just .99, and probably all of my future ones will be as well.


message 35: by Andrew (new)

Andrew Lawston (andrewlawston) | 72 comments I work in magazine publishing, and although no one ever listens to me on this, I'll give it one last go.

People always talk about ebooks as though the lack of paper means they should be dirt cheap. Trust me, printing is one of the lower overheads when it comes to producing books. Seriously. Against the cost of designing, producing, editing, proofing, etc, printing is a modest blip. Printers make their money by churning high volumes at low margins. This is why POD books are such a massive scam. And why so many print companies have set up their own POD imprints.

Distribution, mind you, is a different matter. Books can be heavy objects, and the cost of carting them round the world is significant. Usually more than the printing, in fact.

The license v content question is more interesting, but... well, you actually only buy a license to read a physical book as well. Go and read the lengthy legalese some time: "This book is sold on the condition that no part of it may be..." or similar. The difference is that prior to e-books, this was a pointless bit of small print that only bothered university librarians.


message 36: by Summer (last edited Jan 31, 2013 05:25AM) (new)

Summer (paradisecity) Henry wrote: "Just curious about your opening line. May I ask why?"

Sure. When indies first came out I was excited by the idea of reading, as I've read wonderful work from non-professional writers in other areas and wanted to support up and coming writers. Unfortunately, without exception, I've been incredibly disappointed by the quality of indie writing. I enjoy 9 out of 10 trad pub books I read, but I only find 1 in 15 samples of indie work readable and even then, the novels typically seem to fall apart as they progress. As a whole, indie work seems to need much more editing than it's currently receiving. My reading time is very valuable to me, so I've chosen to forego the frustrating process of trying to find a readable indie work and stick with the trad pubs where I'm guaranteed a good read.


message 37: by D.J. (last edited Jan 31, 2013 08:19AM) (new)

D.J. Edwardson I think books should be priced by length of the book, personally. Because as a reader the longer I spend in the book, the more enjoyment I will (hopefully) get from it and the longer it took to write and edit it as well.

And I also think books are a great deal at almost any of their current price points. If you go to a movie you will spend at least $5, probably closer to $15 and the same if you buy a DVD. Sporting events or other forms of entertainment cost 3 to 6 times that. Why should we think that a good book, which will probably take at least six or more hours to read and likely took the author a year or more to write should cost 99 cents?

From a marketing perspective, I do understand that 99 cents for the first in a series may be a great way to entice someone to try it. But to some readers I know, 99 cents also seems to say "this book is so bad that I can't get anyone to pay more than 99 cents for it." Not everyone will think that, but some will.

But returning to the idea of a book as entertainment, I'm someone who likes to actually re-read a book and am of the mind that a story not worth reading more than once wasn't really worth reading the first time. So then the book becomes an even a better investment for me because that same $5 to $20 goes even longer when compared to the other things I mentioned (aside from DVDs which can, of course, be watched multiple times).

So maybe we should cut the poor old book some slack. There are certainly worse values out there for your money.

I think perhaps, however, the reason we demand so much for so little from authors is that it is a much more personal form of communication than any of the others I mentioned. It's like having a long, one-on-one conversation with just this one particular person. We enter into their world and I think readers develop a sort of fondness and trust for certain authors and only feel it is worth their time and money if the author is a "friend" so to speak.

Along those lines, if this is true, it makes sense that readers are less willing to try an author (at any price) unless they have some reason to believe there is the potential to develop that sort of literary friendship. Which would mean that price has only a minor influence on certain readers, to answer the original poster's question.

At the end of the day, however, I suppose the main point I am trying to make is that books are worth a great deal more than what you will ever pay for them if you are the discerning sort and especially if you enjoy reading them over and over again. And if you are this sort of person and yet lack the means to acquire the books you so desire, well, all I can say is: thank goodness for libraries.


message 38: by Summer (new)

Summer (paradisecity) Henry wrote: "I rarely, if ever, find an error-free traditionally published book. Despite the resources and manpower traditional publishers have, I still find typos, missing letters, and, occasionally, wrong words. Obviously, this is more prevalent in indie work."

I have more difficulties with content editing than copy editing. In my experience, a lot of indies don't have a great grasp of grammar (it's quite rare that I don't find an error on the book's main page summary, which should be flawless), pacing, characterization, or maintenance of a plot. I do find those issues in trad pub work from time to time (Gillian Flynn, I'm looking at you!) but I find they're much more frequent in indie work. I'm sure there's some really strong, quality indie work out there but until there's some sort of filtering/gatekeeping system, I need to be more selective with my time.


message 39: by Tui (last edited Feb 01, 2013 11:02AM) (new)

Tui Allen (tuibird) | 7 comments Andrew wrote: "People always talk about ebooks as though the lack of paper means they should be dirt cheap..."
But its not the printing costs of paper books so much as the huge wastage that happens with MOST of them. All those printed books have to be carted around, stored, carted back again and destroyed when they don't sell etc. There is a huge amount of waste and all that handling is a huge cost. The price of the ones that DO sell must cover the costs of the majority which don't.
E-books beautifully avoid all that cost and waste and the price should reflect that. I firmly believe that no e-book should cost more than $5 (US)and it's very rare for me to buy one that is over that amount. If the e-publisher prices the book low it may sell more copies so they end up making money from increased numbers of sales instead of from bigger profits from each individual sale.


message 40: by Aoibhínn (new)

Aoibhínn (aoibhinn) I don't believe in paying anymore than €10 for a book. I usually shop around. I've downloaded Calibre and all the hacks for it and whenever I find an epub that is cheaper than the Kindle version, I'll buy it and convert it to mobi using Calibre.


message 41: by Ruth (new)

Ruth | 2 comments If I find a book in paperback cheaper than the kindle price I will purchase the book instead, I usually just purchase kindle books which are cheaper or I can't find elsewhere


message 42: by Mona (new)

Mona (mona07452) | 1 comments A related issue is the fact that so many Kindle titles aren't available from libraries. The policy in my state (NJ) and elsewhere is brutal: Certain publishers refuse to sell eBooks to libraries, some charge libraries as much as 5 times more than consumers for the same digital content, and some embargo their content and will not sell any newly published digital content to libraries. My library suggested sending letters to author(s) via their publishers. Thoughts on this?
http://savemynjlibrary.org/notenoughe...


message 43: by Catherine (new)

Catherine Veritas | 2 comments I am starting to think of Free and cheap eBooks as the "New Economy" --a new way of relating to each other that is more like "gifting." My book is cheap, though I spent years writing it and paid professional editors and formatters. But then my website was Free (Weebly), Facebook is free, uploading to Amazon is free and a lot of promoting is free. I can't quite get my head around it but I am going with the flow.


message 44: by Tousled Elegance (last edited Feb 21, 2013 06:37AM) (new)

Tousled Elegance (TousledElegance) | 2 comments I certainly appreciate time, effort, talent and what happens logistically on the "back end." I want folks to be fairly compensated for that. However, I firmly believe all digital goods should be priced significantly less than their tangible counterparts, as the manufacturing and distributing costs differ greatly.

That being said, it is very unlikely for me to shell out more than, say, $7.99 or $8.99 at the absolute most for any book, unless it is something in particular I am just dying to read or physically possess, i.e. because I've become hooked on a series and just have to know what happens next, since the previous book ended on a cliffhanger or if it's something I want to keep on my coffeetable. Honestly, that's very rarely applicable.
For me, the main issue is that I read a particular genre (for the most part) and I read often + quickly... typically 2 suspense novels each week/8-10 a month. I'm on a tight budget as it is, so if I want to make sure I have something enjoyable to read at all times, I have to choose wisely, basing my final decisions on price or go without.


message 45: by Betsy (new)

Betsy I agree with D.J. A good book is worth nearly any price to me. I will pay up to about $10 with little reservation. Above that I need to know that I want to read it.

But sometimes I run across one that stops me. I was just looking at a book I thought I might like to read. Unfortunately the Kindle edition was $28 -- more than the paperback. Since I wasn't absolutely sure about wanting it, I won't pay that. Fortunately I was able to find it at my library and borrow it for three weeks. If it turns out I really like it I might end up buying it, but I doubt it.


message 46: by Randy (new)

Randy Harmelink | 2930 comments Henry wrote: "A Kindle book for $28, in my opinion, is beyond wrong."

It's all in the context. For fiction, I would agree. However, there are DTB non-fiction books out that cost far more than $28.


message 47: by Tammy K. (last edited Feb 21, 2013 08:54PM) (new)

Tammy K. (rambles_of_a_reader) | 14 comments Henry wrote: "...Nevertheless, the same holds true for the reader, as readers nowadays rarely leave a review (good or bad) to share their experience with other prospective readers. The 'like' button encourages a quick vote up if a reader enjoys a particular book, but most readers don't go past that. Even a single line review, such as "This book is full of grammatical errors, the storyline is poor..." et cetera would eventually weed out the bad examples. ..."

I write reviews on amazon. I am currently ranked in 4,7++ I'm using the ++ for the last part because it goes up and down like a yo-yo and I should leave the 7 blank too for the same reason. Let us just say that I'm in the top 5,000 of the USA.
It takes hard work to write reviews, reply to comments, and stick with it day after day. The main reason is the attacks one receives from the fans of a book or an author.
I can not tell you how many times I have seen fans down vote and leave hostile comments to reviewers who write a review which expresses a less then positive light of a book, but I can say it is a regular occurrence.
I have three book reviews that have a majority of 'not helpful votes' (vs helpful votes) where I am the only reviewer of said book.
I try hard to give fair and balanced reviews for both the authors and the potential purchasers benefits. I try to give sound reasoning for both my positive and negative reviews.
And I openly admit that not all readers will have the same reading experience for book. I might cheer something that you might not.
I'd rather have my wisdom teeth put back in and re-pulled out than I read another teenage love triangle story line. But hey someone out there loves that, they live for it, it is their idea of a great read.
So as a reader/reviewer it is important that I do not look for love triangle books to trash and bash but if I find one in one of my genres, you can best believe I will make a comment on it.
There is one book, I will not name the title or the author but simply say its a goodreads author. That I wrote a 3 star review on her book only to find review was flagged and removed. I did not learn about it being tagged or removed, I stumbled upon that information when I seen the book had gone on sale and my review (as with a lot of other lower star reviews of the book) were not posted.
I had to write Amazon to ask why and they re-evaluated my review to find it was within the review guidelines and they reinstated it.
How many reviews are removed without the reviewer ever knowing? I have no idea but I will say it has happened to me and I know other reviewers reviews of that same book that I had seen before, do not have their reviews posted to this day.
I was friends with one author here on goodreads for quite a while. But I seen his comments where often sour so I just skipped them. One day I seen him ask his goodreads fans to 'carpet bomb' the reviews of his book on amazon because he was having a dispute with the publisher of the book and wanted out of his contract. His goodreads fans replied that they would and they did!! I replied to him that I take my reviews seriously and would not do that.
Think about this folks, if you were an amazon reviewer and an author of one of the books that you took the time to read and review, decided to ask their fans to carpet bomb your hard work.. ugh!
With social media, twitter, goodreads (whom I love), facebook and so on, an author can bring down a reviewer in no time flat.
I do not get paid for my reviews. I do it all for love of reading. I got sick and tired of seeing a book with five stars, paying for that book only to find it was worth maybe 3 and sometimes less and so I stepped up to the plate and put my voice out there for others to see before they purchase.
I do not believe in fluff reviews. If I am reviewing a book that is from an author that I love, I put a disclaimer in my review stating that I am a fan of this author or this genre or whatever. That gives the potential purchaser the heads up that hey this is my kind of thing.
I know that this thread was about pricing of an item but I seen your comment Henry and felt that I had something to chime in that might be worth knowing.


message 48: by Betsy (new)

Betsy Randy wrote: "Henry wrote: "A Kindle book for $28, in my opinion, is beyond wrong."

It's all in the context. For fiction, I would agree. However, there are DTB non-fiction books out that cost far more than $28."


The book I was referring to is nonfiction, science with lots of illustrations and, I think, photographs. So the price may not be as ridiculous as it seems at first, but it still shouldn't be more than the paperback.


message 49: by Lisbeth (new)

Lisbeth | 2 comments If I can buy an good book (fiction) for $15 or less, I consider that a excellent deal. My logic being that I'm getting hours of stimulating entertainment for about the same cost of a single glass of wine at a nice pub.


message 50: by Tammy K. (last edited Feb 22, 2013 11:27AM) (new)

Tammy K. (rambles_of_a_reader) | 14 comments Lisbeth wrote: "If I can buy an good book (fiction) for $15 or less, I consider that a excellent deal. My logic being that I'm getting hours of stimulating entertainment for about the same cost of a single glass o..."

You're buying really pricy wine, at 15 dollars a glass. Yikes!
What say you take me out for a drink? Your treat and I will share (loan) a really good book with you that I got off Amazon for free.

There are only so many books that a kindle will hold. There are only so many books that my simple mind can read. There is larger number of books released each day on Amazon than either of the first two of those facts.
Even narrowing down to just my preferred genres, the market is too flooded for high priced e-books.


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