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Incredible characters or incredible plot?
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I think plot. You really read a story so that whatever happens can entertain you, right? For example, I hate all of James Patterson's characters. But all of the stories are really interesting so he keeps me reading
I prefer incredible characters. Characters are what make a story memorable, what they say, do, their personalities. I love a memorable character.
I think it depends on the person reading. some people get more attached to the characters, and just move with them to whatever events that awaits. others love a good plot plot. they enjoy the idea itself and go on with the story just to see how it turns out. For me I'm both. I can read a story for its good characters or a great plot.
Jordan (The Gleek) wrote: "I think plot. You really read a story so that whatever happens can entertain you, right? For example, I hate all of James Patterson's characters. But all of the stories are really interesting so he..."You've got that right. Patterson is plot, exclusively. lol
Dina wrote: "I think it depends on the person reading. some people get more attached to the characters, and just move with them to whatever events that awaits. others love a good plot..."
Very true -- the question is, if you're forced to pick one over the other, which one would you pick?
Hardest question. But I think I'm a character person. I think awesome characters can really drive the simplest plots. I love reading about their arcs and to see how they change.But it also depends on the genre. Like if it's contemporary or coming of age sotries, then the characters tend to be more developed (the good ones anyway) because it's essentially about their growth as a person. If it's a mystery or suspense, then the focus would be more on the plot. The author wants to keep the reader excited and focused with the plot twists and the red herrings and to keep them guessing. That's why Petterson's characters aren't that good. The focus isn't on them.
If I had to choose for my long-term memory, I would say characters are more important. Over time I forget small plot points, but a character's personality sticks.However, if we are refering to my ADD, somewhat lazy short term memory/attention span, I would say plot is more important. As much as it bugs me to read a story with bad characters, if something interesting is happening to them, then I will at least finish the book.
Tough, but I have to go with plot, because iv read too many books that are just SO slow and boring and just.. Blah - the characters kinda grow on you anyway - I don't know what it is, but they do - even evil/annoying/double crossing/ mean characters grow on you, and yes, their even better when their done well, but honestly, if the plot isn't going anywhere within the first 70 pages, it's lost it for me
I think both are important but I am going to have to say plot. I don't always have to like the characters to enjoy the book. In fact I like when not all the characters are perfect and likable. I would rather read a book where I enjoy the story and hate the characters then read a book that has a horrible plot but great characters.
I'd preferably choose Incredible Characters, even if a plot is reluctantly 'boring', the Characters still brings it up. But if it goes the other way, I'd definitely sleep the whole way through the book. As if saying, if I were to give an example, 'The Fault in Our Stars', if you've ever read it, I'm not a fanatic 'romance' fan, and so I Sometimes can't seem to handle romance as well so much, but the characters in the book, they are simply unforgettable. I've read books with incredible plot and terrible characters, I'd wish I just could just somehow even change the characters themselves, I wouldn't even bother continuing sometimes.
Though I enjoy fascinating plots, the books that I remember after a few years are those that have memorable characters. It may be that because most books are plot-driven rather than character-driven, the unique characters stands out much more. And my brain selects what's unique to remember.
I say plot, but characters is really close. because there are so many books i've read the characters are reallly badly done, but i lovvve the plot, so i carry on.
I'm reading a book right now that has a VERY interesting plot, but the characters are no more than cardboard. There needs to be a balance, but I prefer a fast paced plot.
I'm going with plot. There have been plenty of books where I have hated the characters but the plot was amazing so I didn't really mind.
I'm going to say characters because I think that incredible characters lead to a good plot. What the characters do impacts the plot and determines which direction the plot goes in.
Plot. A good story can have boring characters, but I certainly can't imagine a boring story having good characters. This actually happened with a movie I watched, and I always prefer a better plot :)
For me, interesting characters can pull me along a nebulous or unstructured plot. I'm thinking of the work of J. M. Coetzee, especially. A good plot but bland characters just gets boring after about 50 pages.
I am a plot person. I can get past those annoying characters if the story is good. A good book has both though
I'm definitely in it for the characters. Without good characters to sustain them, I think most plots become boring, redundant, or just plain improbable. I'll gladly stick out the disjointed, over-sentimentalized plot of The Old Curiosity Shop for the sake of Quilp or Dick Swiveller, or play along with the unlikely circumstance of I Capture the Castle for the company of its colorful cast, but I can't get past Fanny Price's insipid personality (sorry, Austen fans), no matter how intriguing the plot of Mansfield Park is. I have to feel connected with the characters to enjoy the story.








It's like asking which of your children is your favorite to me, but when I consider two of my favorite movies -- Braveheart (character) and The Matrix I (plot) -- I think character has the edge by a hair. A story with an incredible plot leaves me amazed, with incredible characters it leaves me moved.
An exception was A Tale of Two Cities, which I would classify as plot but still left me moved.