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Agreed. I'm becoming rather notorious for cliffhangers in both my YA series so far eek! But I think I'm done with them! So I'm trying something new with Fire Country, and ending it HFN like Alana said. You know there's more to the story and you want to know what happens next, but you don't stop right after a major revelation or in the middle of action (or with two lovers on opposite sides of the fence like in Delirium!)
Take Harry Potter as an example. Rowling ends each book with a finite ending (usually the school term) with Harry and his friends having conquered whatever evil they had to face. And yet you know there's a lot more to the story and you love the world so much that you'll read the next book regardless. I think that's a good example.
That being said, I've had some success with my cliffhangers too LOL! Sorry, I had to say it! So Dvora, I think you'll have to decide what's right for your series and how evil you are LOL. Although I'll leave you with this thought: The longer the time period planned for books in a series, the more damage a cliffhanger could do :)
Take Harry Potter as an example. Rowling ends each book with a finite ending (usually the school term) with Harry and his friends having conquered whatever evil they had to face. And yet you know there's a lot more to the story and you love the world so much that you'll read the next book regardless. I think that's a good example.
That being said, I've had some success with my cliffhangers too LOL! Sorry, I had to say it! So Dvora, I think you'll have to decide what's right for your series and how evil you are LOL. Although I'll leave you with this thought: The longer the time period planned for books in a series, the more damage a cliffhanger could do :)




But yeah, I agree with the HP book endings too and I would more likely buy a single book in a series if I know there's a definite ending for say, a Book 1-specific plot, even if the overarching story obviously won't end in Book 1. If there are cliffhangers I usually wait until the last book is released (like THG, for example) before I buy the entire series.

I do prefer it if it ended with a proper ending, like someone mentioned above with HP. If I'm not interested enough in the book, there's a high possibility I'm going to forget what happened in the previous book, especially if there's a year that separates the two apart.


For me a good ending is when the book ends at a logical place with a bit of a clue as to what is going to happen next to keep the mystery.
I guess I also have a love/hate relationship with cliffhangers. If the story is well told, I will wait as long as it takes to read the next book! I have been known to throw my book across the room in that moment of realization of a seriously evil cliffhanger, though... And 2 minutes later, I'm over it and looking up when the next book will be released eagerly anticipating. As long as the series ties everything up at the end of it all, I'm good! So cliffhang away!

(Please no give-a-way or event invites...thank you) :-)

Nah, I hate some of them. Some of them are awesome.
Most aren't.
Most I'm still hanging... and hanging... for a longgg time .-.



- It makes me curious even more.
- There's thrill in the end.
Hate:
- I HAVE TO WAIT FOR A YEAR TO GET THE NEXT BOOK! >:)


The ending of the book was CRAZY and there is a 1 year wait (at least) between these books... but somehow, I accepted this one. Because I knew no matter how bad it seemed, it just had to be 'fixed' in the next book, or there couldn't be a next book.
It also reminds me of the X-files... and one episode where Moulder seemed like he was DEAD. No coming back dead... but it started with "trust no one" instead of 'the truth is out there'... so it gave a clue about not 'trusting' the cliffhanger ending


I've been watching it (off and on) since like the early 80's. GREAT British Sci-Fi show- Dr.Who is a time lord. He travels around time and space in his space ship, the Tardis (that looks like an old school police call box from UK)
Here is a Wikipedia about it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Who


Which book?
Dr. Who can be quite cheesy at times, but it is fun!! I go through Dr. Who phases where I'll watch 3 episodes a night and then others where it's a bit too cheesy and I'll watch 1 a week.
And David, I had not heard of Dr. Who up until a few months ago either!! I found out about it through a GR thread somewhere. ;-D
And David, I had not heard of Dr. Who up until a few months ago either!! I found out about it through a GR thread somewhere. ;-D
Lol! Uh, yeah, I was being sarcastic (*whispers to Karen* "thanks"). Lol I'll have to check it out!!

And Dav..."
YESS! I'm not the only one who hasn't heard of Doctor Who! *o* No really... I haven't. I mean, I have, but I never paid attention to my friends babbling about it. If they even do o-o
LOL cheese city! But true. But what is right for the story? LOL that's the hard part! I really struggle with this stuff sometimes too Dvora, it's completely natural.

I love cheese!

I firmly believe in the author reader contract that is a complete story will be told in the book. If that story ends in a cliff hanger a complete story is not told and my rating will be lowered to reflect that violation.
I also will stop buying future books in the series because I feel it is extortion to tell a story in one book, but require the reader to purchase a second book to find out how that cliff hanger ends.
And come on after waiting a year to the next book to see how it ends what happens 90% of the time is the cliff hanger is just brushed away in a way that is very anti-climatic.
Also you guys are driving me batty by shortening Doctor Who to Dr.! That's just so wrong.

It'll come to you, I once had to completely ignore my manuscript for a few days and then I was cleaning when it hit me. Not that cleaning helps writing because I'd deny that to the moon and back ;)


But I am so glad that so many of you like the cliffhangers.

My mind generally stays the same about the cliffhanger ending regardless of the time since I've finished reading. My reviews tend to go on a lot of gut reaction. The book doesn't change after I've finished reading it. For myself, it also doesn't matter who the author is. I read each book based on what is in front of me, not based on who wrote it. That only helps me pick them in the first place (if it's a favorite author of mine).

I do not like books that are just part 1 without having their own plot. I am usually done with the series unless it was a really good story with compelling characters and then I will give it one more try. But as a whole, cliffhangers irritate me and I feel manipulated. The HP series was well done and didn't use cliffhangers to captivate readers.
Cliffhangers were designed for the old serials, when the next installment was released the next week or the next month. I tend not to read series until at least 2 or 3 books in the series are out, so I don't have to wait for the next book.



OK so I don't much care for cliffhangers but I actually LOVE those two books.
Psstt, Armentrout and Moning you don't have to leave me that way I assure you I am going to finish the series. ;-)

@ Tracy if you read shadowfeverm you begin to understand why she ended it at that place, because there isn't a better ending. btw I thought the ending of feafever was worse.




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1. After reading a book with a major cliffhanger, does your mind ever change about the outcome after giving it some thought, or does it usually stay the same?
2.When rating a book that has a major cliffhanger, do you rate based on your gut reaction or do you wait until you have thought about it?
3. Would it matter if it was an author you already know about vs. a new author?