The Hobbit, or There and Back Again
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read the book before the movie
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me neither. I don't understand that decision.


As for the first film, I didn't like it. I don't enjoy my favorite Tolkien race being nothing more than comic relief, let alone all that was left out and all that was unnecessarily added in or changed. They extended this short book into three films and still can't stay true to the work... that's pathetic.



I wouldn't go that far, I've read the book and enjoyed the movie. Was it as faithful an adaptation as I'd have liked, definitely not, but I enjoyed it none the less in spite of my many misgivings.

Agreed, I thought the infusion with stories from the Similarian are providing the material for a trilogy. Radagast and the necromancer, the mountain giants, and the pale orc are all providing much more depth and drama than the book could provide for a trilogy


As for the first film, I didn't like it. I don't enjoy my favorite Tolkien race being no..."
you are so wrong

I agree, but I totally understand the choice to vary some information from book to movie and I enjoyed seeing the way it translated onto film. What a magical and inspiring tale. I love the world of Midlle Earth. :)

You guys do realize that the novel has been stretched into three films because PJ is incorporating Tolkien's other works into the film?
Also he can add in a lot of the Gandalf scenes to the film.
Overall, I thought it was amazing. I saw it once in 3D 48fps, then IMAX 3D 48fps.
Seriously, if you haven't seen it in IMAX, go now. It's a huge and amazing difference.
I was worried that they would cut the riddle scene into a super short thing, with maybe two riddles shown. I was so happy when they included each riddle (excluding the fish one), because I was afraid if it was so long it might bore people who aren't fans.
I can honestly say I only recently got into the LOTR fandom (I'm 14 years old, and super sad I couldn't have seen the original trilogy in theaters), and everyone has welcomed me with open arms. Most fandoms hate newbies who come in way late, but not this one.
Can't wait for the next one!
Also he can add in a lot of the Gandalf scenes to the film.
Overall, I thought it was amazing. I saw it once in 3D 48fps, then IMAX 3D 48fps.
Seriously, if you haven't seen it in IMAX, go now. It's a huge and amazing difference.
I was worried that they would cut the riddle scene into a super short thing, with maybe two riddles shown. I was so happy when they included each riddle (excluding the fish one), because I was afraid if it was so long it might bore people who aren't fans.
I can honestly say I only recently got into the LOTR fandom (I'm 14 years old, and super sad I couldn't have seen the original trilogy in theaters), and everyone has welcomed me with open arms. Most fandoms hate newbies who come in way late, but not this one.
Can't wait for the next one!

I agree though, both with the rest of your post and the fact that the LoTR fandom is amazing. There's some hiccups, and far too many Mary-Sues in the fanfiction sections, but overall it's one of the most pleasant fandoms I've ever had the pleasure to be a part of.

I've read the Hobbit at least a dozen times over the years, and I read it again last week to refresh my memories to see the film.



In my opinion, although there are some big changes (just as the eagles at the end), I believe the film gives greater depth to the dwarfs (comparing to the book so far). And I, for one, loved that. In the book the beginning makes the hobbit obviously a children's book.
I've read some complaints about lack of female characters in the book, so lots of people are eager for the female character Jackson created for the films. I don't think adding that female character is a bad move (quite the opposite), but I do not feel horror stricken for reading a book without important female characters. Why can't there be stories with an exclusive male or female cast?
Totally agree. I seriously don't see what's wrong with an all male cast, and I'm female myself. Everyone thing Eowyn (sp?) is the best female role model, and that every girl who watches LOTR loves her, but my favorite character and role-model from the films will always be Frodo and Gandalf. The rest of the hobbits are great, too. Eowyn was okay, at first I hated her because I love Arwen and Aragorn together, but as the films went on I started lightly shipping her with Aragorn.
Ugh, I had the most horrid experience today.
I was riding the bus home from school (As I said, I'm 14, and I can't start drivers ed until spring), and my neighbor and some other girl started talking. I'm not one for stereotypes, but the best way to describe them would be as dumb blondes. Anyways, we recently watched Fellowship of the Ring for English (it was amazing for me). So this is what I overheard:
"Oh my gosh, the Hobbit was, like, the worst movie ever!"
"Jesus, I know! I wish I had gone to see Breaking Dawn again instead."
"Ugh! Me too!"
So I politely intervened with this:
"Well, if you read the novels first it's much easier to understand and enjoy. Not to mention watching Fellowship of the Ring in school kind of sucked the fun out of it because we had to take notes. Also, if you watch the rest of the trilogy it's amazing."
"Seriously? No, it was crap. Four hours of shit."
At this point I was pretty pissed off. I mean, if you hate something, have a genuine reason. Then I asked what DID they like, and they said this,
"Twilight! Omigosh, Stephanie Meyers is an amazing writer! So much better than that lady who wrote those god-awful Harry Potter crap!"
Right there was when I stopped. I was SO angered by what they said, and I knew I would just say something I would regret. Seriously, there's like no people in my school who actually read GOOD literature. I'm sorry, but I've actually read every Twilight book, and it was garbage.
I might just be too protective over my fandom, but whatever.
Ugh, I had the most horrid experience today.
I was riding the bus home from school (As I said, I'm 14, and I can't start drivers ed until spring), and my neighbor and some other girl started talking. I'm not one for stereotypes, but the best way to describe them would be as dumb blondes. Anyways, we recently watched Fellowship of the Ring for English (it was amazing for me). So this is what I overheard:
"Oh my gosh, the Hobbit was, like, the worst movie ever!"
"Jesus, I know! I wish I had gone to see Breaking Dawn again instead."
"Ugh! Me too!"
So I politely intervened with this:
"Well, if you read the novels first it's much easier to understand and enjoy. Not to mention watching Fellowship of the Ring in school kind of sucked the fun out of it because we had to take notes. Also, if you watch the rest of the trilogy it's amazing."
"Seriously? No, it was crap. Four hours of shit."
At this point I was pretty pissed off. I mean, if you hate something, have a genuine reason. Then I asked what DID they like, and they said this,
"Twilight! Omigosh, Stephanie Meyers is an amazing writer! So much better than that lady who wrote those god-awful Harry Potter crap!"
Right there was when I stopped. I was SO angered by what they said, and I knew I would just say something I would regret. Seriously, there's like no people in my school who actually read GOOD literature. I'm sorry, but I've actually read every Twilight book, and it was garbage.
I might just be too protective over my fandom, but whatever.

I disagree. They're both fiction. But there is no excuse for making an inferior 'based-on' film if there is the scope and technical prowess to render the original faithfully.
Haven't seen the movie yet. Won't be able to until next week. It doesn't open in this country until 26 Dec.

also you do not need to use Jeesus name like you did"
Read it again.
It was the dumb blondes' taste in movies. And direct quotes of what they said. What about 'crap' and 'shit'?


Moviemakers almost always do that, Nicholas.
Saraman's death in LotR movie, for example.
It's crosses the line between taking a liberty and artistic license, in my opinion.
Lol sorry if I offended anyone with my language; I'm used to seeing curse words all the time on the Internet, so I didn't think it would bother anyone else. I can change it if you'd like.
Saruman's death was gruesome in the films... I haven't gotten around to it yet in the novels (I've only just finished Fellowship), but I always thought there would be an epic fight or something. Not just... getting stabbed by a mill....
Saruman's death was gruesome in the films... I haven't gotten around to it yet in the novels (I've only just finished Fellowship), but I always thought there would be an epic fight or something. Not just... getting stabbed by a mill....

Saruman's demise is nothing like the film. But without giving too much away, it's not an epic battle.


There are threads about the book ... but this thread is specially about the movie. I think.

you schould, it's really worth the time/money and everything ;p

Haha good!! That was the idea C: have fun watching!!

you are welcome

The Tolkien Professor weighs in on fan reaction to Hobbit film. January 1st 2:00 PM Eastern.
http://news.mymiddleearth.com/2012/12...

Emilie, If it is at all possible for you to see it in the theater, I would strongly recommend it.
When I was in line waiting to see The Hobbit, a little boy came out of the prior viewing, he had the most incredible look of awe on his face. He announced to nobody in particular, "That was awesome!!". Seeing his enjoyment warmed my heart.
This being my first 3D experience, I said, I hope I have the same look on my face after I see this movie. I'm glad to report that I did... and he was correct, it was awesome.
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