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Does Any one get annoyed by way Piper thinks about Percy and whines a lot in her mind

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message 151: by Vivian (new) - rated it 5 stars

Vivian Mercado i just finished reading the book and i do feel that she whines to much about jason and i really dislike that she compares Percy with jason no one can compare to Percy :)


message 152: by Tal (new) - rated it 5 stars

Tal OMG. it's like you read my mind! i mean seriously?!?!?! i hate Jason and Piper, and no one is better than percy! He's Percy! and she is so useless! it's infuriating.....


message 153: by Gabi (new) - rated it 5 stars

Gabi I think that yes, she has a tendency to complain, but who wouldn't in that situation? Piper is worried that Jason might not be interested, she must save the world, AND there's a deadline and lives at stake. I think that it adds imperfection too, because nobody's perfect and I dislike perfect book characters, because the perfection makes them BORING!!! I found her character to be a good one.


message 154: by Blogger (new)

Blogger Girl Emma wrote: "I think Kelly said it best on her Tumblr, The Sibylline Books:
Piper

Well, this has been a subject of contest lately even though the post that sparked it was from almost a month ago.

I don’t lov..."


RIGHT ON!!!!!


message 155: by Tess (new) - rated it 5 stars

Tess Sage wrote: "I think that Piper cares about her appearance anyway, only in reverse. she wants to look bad all the time so it doesn't look like she cares about her appearance. But she does.
and yes, i think she ..."


You liked Piper at one point?


Jennifer She is really annoying. They could die at any given moment, and she is caring about how Jason is "ignoring" her..Please, get real Piper.


message 157: by Addy (new) - rated it 4 stars

Addy Somerville It's the typical Aphrodite...


Isabel Ya, Pipper needs to sort out her prioritys.


Caraline Jennifer wrote: "She is really annoying. They could die at any given moment, and she is caring about how Jason is "ignoring" her..Please, get real Piper."

tooooootally agree


message 160: by Dylan (new) - rated it 3 stars

Dylan Yang Piper need to change her name to Whiner


Jennifer Dylan wrote: "Piper need to change her name to Whiner"
haha. I love that. (:


message 162: by [deleted user] (new)

1) Jason is Piper's boyfriend. I'd be quite surprised if she didn't think Jason was better.
2) What, and normal girls don't whine? I'm quite sure that most teenage girls Piper's age whine in their heads...about wanting to be noticed, about wanting to be over average, etc.
3) Look, I wish people would stop hating on Piper. Would you like it if someone hated on you so much? No? Yes, I expected that answer. So stop being horrible about a regular teenage girl trying to get on her feet and figure out her place in the world.


message 163: by [deleted user] (new)

Jennifer wrote: "Dylan wrote: "Piper need to change her name to Whiner"
haha. I love that. (:"

so true. =) <3


message 164: by [deleted user] (new)

Jennifer wrote: "Dylan wrote: "Piper need to change her name to Whiner"
haha. I love that. (:"

so true. =) <3


message 165: by [deleted user] (new)

Masked Lunatic wrote: "Piper, well she was just being biased. And honestly, I don't know if I should be annoyed that she was being shallow or relieved that there's at least one character who didn't find Jackson impressiv..."

uhhh... i dont think so... Prcy's the hero of the book and i think that RR wasnt bieng biased... its just the plain truth... how many times has Jason defeated the Titan Lord, he had difficulty just destroying the throne... Percy led an entire army....and yeah i think you people should stop criticizing Piper,, you are sounding even worse than before. i criticized her a lot as well but now i think its too much..


message 166: by [deleted user] (new)

Sakina wrote: "Masked Lunatic wrote: "Piper, well she was just being biased. And honestly, I don't know if I should be annoyed that she was being shallow or relieved that there's at least one character who didn't..."

Percy never defeated the Titan Lord; Luke did since Kronos was possessing his body. Jason led an army as well and he destroyed Kronos' throne after beating Krios and gave Luke that chance to gain back control.

Yes, Jason is a jerk (at least to me) but his powers are strong, due to being a Big 3 child.

And Piper can be criticized as long as you have good and valid reasons to do so. But yes, haters who hate for no reason are idiots.


Emily Ann She is not my favorite but she has her moments. She insults Percy in her mind I guess she just doesn't like Percy's type which is like pure awesome.Jason is cool too though so i'm not mad at her.


message 168: by [deleted user] (new)

Piper is Piper.
At least she isn't on Gaea's side.


message 169: by Kei (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kei Walker ... this discussion is getting a bit harsh on personal opinions...
is now a bad time to say i tolerate Piper?
she's a normal girl, sticks up for the other kids in aphrodite cabin, tries not to flaunt her advantages, realized how bad charm speaking civilians was...
she's obbsessive, worries about stupid stuff, kinda useless in a fight where the opponent can deflect charmspeak...
all people are full of good and bad; we won't get along with some people even if we understand their only human (or half human)
i would not get along with piper in the real world but try to stay neutral (not really working)
please respect likes (or) dislikes of piper


message 170: by Jenna (new) - rated it 5 stars

Jenna Of course she is unimpressed by Percy, Jason is her freaking boyfriend- she has to be supportive of him. If Annabeth did the same thing we all would be like "Yeah!Percy is stronger!" but since it's Piper she gets hate? That doesn't make much sense to me


message 171: by Joseph (new) - rated it 5 stars

Joseph When I was reading The Mark of Athena, I noticed Piper doing that a little bit, but it didn't bother me at all. I don't know why you guys think it's so annoying. It's not at all.
Well, at least that's my opinion.


message 172: by Emory (new) - rated it 5 stars

Emory Brinson I agree. That is exactly how I feel


message 173: by Parker (last edited Dec 23, 2013 09:41AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Parker Jason is one type.
Percy is another.
Comparing them is like comparing water and lightning. Most people are REALLY biased in favor of Percy. I see the other side, as I read The Lost Hero without knowing who Percy Jackson was, then went back and read Percy Jackson and the Olympians. I like Jason, because I can't imagine having to keep Percy in line constantly. Some people think Jason has no personality. To each their own. But Piper comparing them in slight favor of her boyfriend shouldn't merit your criticism.


message 174: by Ananth (new)

Ananth Piper complains too much that her dad dosen't notice her. In real life some parents don't have time for their children but they don't complain. Her life is much better than Hazel, who died and got
ressurected, Nico who saw everyone he loved die, not to mention thatthey were also pulled out of time.Leo was an orphan, Frank watched his mom die in war, Jason and Annabeth were abandoned, and Percy life just consisted of quests, expulsions and abusive step fathers.


message 175: by Jordz (new) - rated it 5 stars

Jordz She even said Percy didn't live up to her expectations in looks. Compared to Jason like come on who would do that. Percy is just fab. Ok. He could kick your ass any day


message 176: by Ananth (new)

Ananth Piper disses everyone who isn't Jason.


message 177: by Tana Lovegood of Dumbledore's Army✞~ (last edited Jan 24, 2014 11:35AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Tana Lovegood of Dumbledore's Army✞~ Rogers/America Shes OK i don't consider her amazing compared to others. I mean seriously all she has is Katoptris and a pretty voice for charmspeak purpose!


message 178: by Ananth (new)

Ananth H99 wrote: "Ananth wrote: "Piper complains too much that her dad dosen't notice her. In real life some parents don't have time for their children but they don't complain. Her life is much better than Hazel, w..."

What bugs me the most about Piper is that she has had the easiest life but always complains way too much. Leo is an orphan who was technically ostracized and Piper worries about Jason being distant. What's worse?


message 179: by Sophie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sophie Leah wrote: "Mika wrote: "Leah wrote: "Mika wrote: "Yea annabeth compared them in leadership skills and ability piper compared their attractiveness and personality traits to have in a boyfriend...could barely c..."

This is more of me replying to most of your comments on this page in general. I understand if you love a fictional character. I myself get emotionally attached to a lot of fictional characters (Percy Jackson, Will Herondale, etc).

However, by saying that disliking a fictional character is wrong, you're kind of being a little hypocritcal. So you've never hated/disliked a fictional character before? What about all the evil characters? And I'm sure there is bound to be some characters in some book series who you just found annoying.

You are not the judge of what is morally wrong or right. I'm not saying I am either. However, people are allowed to have their own opinions. Everyone has the right to like something and not like something. You do not need to pounce on everybody who is agreeing that Piper is annoying. You're not going to change peoples minds. I myself like Piper (although I was kind of upset that she called Percy unimpressive since he's kind of like my favorite character however I do understand that Jason IS Piper's boyfriend even though however I see no point in comparing the appearance of the two. Percy probably thinks Piper looks unimpressive compared to Annabeth, he just hasn't cared to ever say it or mention it in his POV.) There are actually reasons for disliking things/people. And it's their opinion. You have your opinion and that is fantastic but you're not going to change somebody else's opinion. I personally love Hazel and Annabeth way more than Piper(even though I like Piper too) but anyways. I'm just trying to say that in the future people have their opinions.


message 180: by Parker (new) - rated it 5 stars

Parker BUT WHAT ABOUT IN THE PAST????

*googles instructions for time machine*


message 181: by Maddison (last edited Feb 24, 2014 09:05AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Maddison Holland I agree that it might get annoying sometimes, but I think that is part of her "Aphrodite side". That part of her mother (and father) that cares about appearances and analyzes relationships. So I don't think she can ever escape that - it's her personality.


Kristin I can´t stand Piper, i didn´t like her at all when I read the books!


message 183: by Blogger (new)

Blogger Girl Kristin wrote: "I can´t stand Piper, i didn´t like her at all when I read the books!"

as rick said, "didn't she kill enough goddesses for you" like seriously people, we ain't about that hate life >_<


chinami i am not a fan of Piper. liked her the least


message 185: by Ananth (new)

Ananth I also don't like how Piper stereotypes people. She thinks all pretty girls are mean. She thinks that having choppy hair will make her look ugly, which means she thinks people with choppy hair are ugly. Plus she is a hypocrite. But she at least has flaws which make her look human, unlike Jason who is perfect, which creeps me out.


message 186: by Parker (new) - rated it 5 stars

Parker Piper doesn't stereotype people. She thinks the mean girls in her school look like makeup owls- not pretty. Which means she can't connect pretty with mean. She cuts her hair like that to distance herself from them, not because she thinks it's ugly. And Jason isn't perfect, either!


message 187: by [deleted user] (new)

Piper's not really annoying and whinny (to me, at least. Its cool if you guys think differently.) , she just seems insecure. I think she compares Percy and Jason because she wants Jason to be sweet to her like Percy is sweet to Annabeth( like when they fell asleep together on the ship). And the way she worries about her relationship with Jason at the stupidest times is on and off with me. i think its adorable she worries about Jason, but at times its all she thinks about. She does have her moments though, like when she was worried about Hazel, Leo, and Frank when the fish/ponies/human dudes ( in the Mark of Athena) captured them. And lastly, do you guys think that maybe Piper thinks about Jason and romance so much is because she's a daughter of Aphrodite? Just a thought :)


message 188: by Ananth (new)

Ananth Yes, but if your opinion is to kill someone, would you really think anyone would listen to you?


message 189: by Parker (new) - rated it 5 stars

Parker She never wanted to kill anyone! What on Earth are you talking about?!


message 190: by Parker (new) - rated it 5 stars

Parker Ha ha! You nailed that one, Shahdia. Piper is not someone to leave anyone behind. She wants to save everyone- which is kind of a quality Percy doesn't have, with the whole "you would destroy the world to save a friend" thing.


message 191: by Ananth (new)

Ananth Really, Piper wanted to save every one? Don't make me laugh! A person who was willing to save her father at the expense of her friends safety wants to save every one? Gee, thanks for the information.


message 192: by Parker (last edited Jun 28, 2014 02:13PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Parker Ananth wrote: "Really, Piper wanted to save every one? Don't make me laugh! A person who was willing to save her father at the expense of her friends safety wants to save every one? Gee, thanks for the information."

What do you mean? She didn't save her father at the expense of her friend's safety! That would have meant betraying them, which she most certainly did NOT do! Instead she told them, and they offered to help her. Seriously, got any REAL examples?


message 193: by Ananth (new)

Ananth Let me write a parody on a section of Patrick Henry's speech

"I know not what course others may take, but as for me give me death or give me nothing of Piper".


Ruthanne I was also so annoyed with Piper when she was comparing Percy to Jason. Percy is NOT unimpressive next to Jason. Percy saved Olympus,saved Camp half blood with the golden fleece, held the weight of the sky,retrieved the lightning bolt and cleared his fathers name, and found Daedalus's workshop in the labyrinth. what has Jason achieved? Hmmm........ Percy thinks quicker on his feet than Jason, he is resourceful, and half the time Jason doesn't do anything. I liked Piper in "The Mark of Athena" but her POV chapter's were sometimes boring, amd unimportant MOST of the time.


Ruthanne Percy is still not unimpressive next to jason. Just because he had the achilles heel Percy still saved OLYMPUS.Percy got the achilles heel in the last book that doesn't even change his past accomplishments. He still saved camp half blood,held the weight of the sky,retrieved the lightning bolt,found daedalus's workshop,and freed Thanatos the God of DEATH. So.... Percy saved the God of death.What God's has Jason freed?Piper complains way to much. She worries about Jason becoming distant. Come on that should be the least of your worries. GAEA is RISING.


Ruthanne I see your point, Piper can have an opinion.But I wasn't saying Piper is annoying because of her opinion on Percy. I was saying she is annoying because of how whiny she is when she complains on how Jason is becoming distant. I can see Piper is sometimes insecure, all girls are like that sometimes, but Jason and the rest of the 5 are all going through a lot.

And I don't think people are annoying just because they have their own opinion, I never said that so I don't know where you got that idea


Ruthanne I guess I WAS saying I was annoyed with Piper when she was comparing Percy to Jason, but that's a minor part in why I think she is annoying. And like I said before on why I think she is annoying or whiny, she is insecure in time where you should be focused on the task ahead.


message 198: by Kalina (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kalina Everyone


message 199: by Kalina (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kalina Kevin wrote: "I say no. But I think Piper fancies Percy."

"She said he wasn't impressive next to Jason and wasn't what she expected from "the great Percy Jackson". She does not fancy him. She's just too obsessed with Jason and her own stupid problems instead of paying attension on the quest and try to become friends with the new demigods onboard.


message 200: by Kalina (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kalina Christina wrote: "I think she worries more then complains. She worries a lot, actually. But she is in a pretty stressful situation, and she mostly keeps it to herself. Sure, she can be a little annoying, but she's p..."

+that she is obsessed with the "amazing" Jason and compares everyone to him, but you're right


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